Yup- that just happened- Electric beat gas
Tesla has proved Electric Cars are fast... but can they survive against the Big 6?
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Maggie’s Pikes Peak- the insane hill climb in Colorado
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Yup- that just happened- Electric beat gas
Tesla has proved Electric Cars are fast... but can they survive against the Big 6?
Ford
GM
VW
Honda
Toyota
Hyundai
BAic Group
The sheer amount of "holy fuck!"s in the tone of seeing Bigfoot for the first time, clearly expresses how fast he was really going.
WTF has happened to Pikes Peak?
This is driving - when it was a real road:
This is driving - when it was a real road:
When they paved it to the top, it kind of “defanged” it for me too. Still a cool race on a cool road. Took the kids up there last summer, that evening had them watch some race footage vids to put it in perspective.
Electric is all well and good until you have to travel more than 80 miles. And just remember that when you take out the middleman, it's still coal powered
They have been doing a section every year i think they finished the last little stretch last year.
Yup, it's all the way to the dopey gift shop now. And we were on it a year ago about now.
Electric will far surpass combustion engines in every way. Do you know the big engines on a train are there to generate electicity for there electric motors. Porsche has a 600 hp car now in production, elec hp very different, no drag and has massive instant torque. Truck drivers think that no electric motor will ever replace there 1200 hp big Cat motors, WRONG.
The city of Colo. Springs was sued by the Sierra Club in order to force them to pave it. If you're angry it's paved, call da' judge.
I don't disagree on the hybrid diesel-electric efficiency in locomotives and haul trucks. Straight electric power is a long way off for big trucks - the storage technology is too heavy, the charge time too long and the range too limited right now. It's nothing but coal power, anyway. BTW, I drive trucks, and I don't know any sane operators using half the 1200 hp you mention.
As for racing with electric cars - it's faggotry of the highest level.
As for racing with electric cars - it's faggotry of the highest level.
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It's here, now.
https://www.tesla.com/semi
Walmart and JB Hunt have already ordered.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/w...irst-to-order-the-tesla-semi-truck-2017-11-17
Fed Ex has pre-ordered 20.
https://electrek.co/2018/03/26/tesla-semi-electric-truck-order-fedex/
40 for Budweiser. Actually I think they increased their order by quit a bit.
https://electrek.co/2017/12/07/tesla-semi-deliver-beer-budweiser-orders-40-electric-trucks/
Pepsi ordered 100.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/12/13/p...r-by-ordering-100-tesla-electric-semi-trucks/
It's the future and the future is here.
Budweiser sends a self driving rig from Ft. Collins to Colorado Springs twice a day everyday.
https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/29/self-driving-beer-truck-world-record/
Days are limited for drivers of all sorts.
You're making the assumption that Tesla can actually deliver. Their track record is not good.
Also, is the cost per mile over the life of the vehicle going to be any less? It'll be interesting to see.
As for the sustainability bullshit, again, they still run on coal.
Also, is the cost per mile over the life of the vehicle going to be any less? It'll be interesting to see.
As for the sustainability bullshit, again, they still run on coal.
Over the road trucks are usually in the 4-500ish HP range, and Cat hasn't been in the on-road business for going on 10 years now. If you can find an OTR truck that makes 1200hp, I'd sure like to buy it!
Here's the thing about electric heavy duty trucks vs. diesel heavy duty trucks: You're usually limited to 80k gross weight, so the lighter the truck and trailer are, the more you can haul, the more $$ you make. If you run a truck that weighs more, you've lost money before you even move.
Most sleeper equipped semi trucks are 17-18k, plus trailer empty weight. The Tesla semi is not nearly that light, and it's technically a day cab to boot, as it has no bed. Every pound of cargo you give up because of the extra weight of the electric truck, you lose $$, or you now have to make a second trip to get the rest of the load to it's destination.
I'm not saying electric trucks won't replace some or all of the current diesel trucks, but it will have an uphill battle from the start. And that's before diving in to recharging, how that factors in to hours of service lost while sitting charging, etc. Hybrid trucks have been trying for ~6 years now, and from personal experience with them, their range is highly inflated.
Dave
Tesla only has two prototypes and they are still in testing. Pre-orders for something that isn't even close to production mean nothing, this isn't a car to get you back and forth to work. These vehicles are designed to make money, so fleets expect reliability. If Tesla fails to deliver, it will set electric trucks back a long ways.
That Budweiser article said it made the trip once, with a driver on board, and the police in tow. maybe i missed it, but where did you see in the article that they are doing it every day?
Dave
I take it your s/n is in reference to an OTR truck engine/trans combo? If so, thumbs up!
The CPM may make some sense for a fleet that will only do short haul; i.e.- So the trucks can charge once daily overnight, and plan to dump the electric trucks before they need the batteries replaced.
But to try to get back to the OP's topic: It is a shame the route is now fully paved, from what I understand the transitions between surfaces could be challenging!
Dave
