Shooters cut and Swimmers cut are the same thing. These days there are:Yeah, I'm still trying to decide what I think between a shooters cut and a swimmers cut. As far as plates I thought I'd probably start out with steel, I like the thinner profile plus they're just less expensive.
The cut differs between companies, but most companies use Lesotho identical cuts for swimmer and shooter. Yours is a rare example of them being different. Most of them are what would be called shooters cut even if they’re labeled as swimmers.Shooters cut and swimmers cut are not the same thing. Steel is fine as long as you get it coated. No, you can’t beat the shit out of ceramic and while it is durable, try not to drop it on to any hard surface where the edge of the plate will hit the hard surface first.
Here is an example between shooters on the left and swimmers on the right. They are cut much differently and the same size plate provides less protection in the swimmers cut.
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I ordered a K19 plate carrier a few months ago and it finally shipped last week. I'll let you know how I like them when I get them. I also have Hesco L210 plates for them I got from T-rex arms. They are LVL 3 Special Threat rated. Decently light and offers pretty good protection from most common rounds today. Its ceramic and decently priced.Anybody ever used the agilite k19 plate carrier, I'm looking at it and the london bridge trading 6094, I've not messed with carriers much so I thought some others with experience may be able to lead me in the right direction.
No problem man. I haven't seen much from anyone reviewing these plates but judging by the specs and few things I've seen about them they look really comfy. I'm not an operator or anything special. Just want some armor for when SHTF or larping around my house. Here's a link to the Hesco L210 plates I got. They make sense for the everyday guy.Off duty ninja awesome, I'm really curious about that carrier, would love to hear your thoughts on it.
Looked up the review after seeing your post, I'd never heard of them. 2lbs lighter than my current plates and turns out they were in stock. Got a set on the way.botach has some lvl4 ceramics for 99 a piece they sell under the brand name of Battle Steel.
mrgunsandgear does a good review of them on youtube.
botach isnt the most popular vendor in some places.
my experiences have left me with no complaints.
my plates showed up 2 weeks after I ordered them.
Exactly why I went with Hesco lvl 4 plates.Remember. If you’re planning for civil unrest you need to match your armor to the threats you’re likely to see. Minimum of AK and AR rounds. But there’s ALOT of hunting rifles in this country shooting high power cartridges. I certainly don’t want taken out by some slap dick and his grandpas deer rifle
Which ones? They make some lvl 4 plates that are special threat rated only
Never heard of them. If they are legit, you got a sweet deal. I paid $165 per plate and still waiting on my backorder after 14 weeks through AT Armor.THESE ARE CURRENT PRODUCTION PLATES! The Hesco 4401 is a midweight (7.6 lbs), single-curve, shooter cut, Stand Alone Level IV Special Threat tested plate that balances lower cost with proven and certified performance. The ceramic/composite design provides AP protection and a multi-shot rating...www.kotaoutfitters.com
from link about botac above. I just ordered some.
ya not alot of real info in there except people who hate stuff made in china. if people can buy 15000 dollar nvg housings and 5000 thermal monoculars from china with worries of qc, than I think I can deal with a couple chinese plates. Show me a review or article of people actually finding these plates to be suspect ill likely sing another tune. but broad I hate china, china bad as an argument, doesnt affect my buying decision at all. honestly im the opposite, im more inclined to buy something not electronic from china like a ceramic plate opposed to something thats more prone to breaking like a thermal scope.
you bring up some valid points. having said that, someone posted a link to hescos for $220 a pair so that would say that either hesco is also making junk or its possible to create a lvl4 plate and keep it profitable at a price point of around $100 bucks a plate. I watched some reviews and saw these plates take black tip 30-06 armor piercing rounds. and thats good enough for me.Just posting up the link because others stated they had never heard of them before and it was just discussed. Far be it from me to tell anyone what they should or should not buy as it’s their money and their decision. With that said, I wore whatever .gov issued us and at some point you need to decide if going with the least expensive option available is actually the best choice. Granted, the routine argument is that you generally get what you pay for is used frequently but you need to stop and ask yourself, why are they so inexpensive?
In the realm of “just as good as”, you can buy a set of plates for $1,000 or you can get a set for $200 and there are definitely reasons why this price gap exists when looking at similar protection levels. While name recognition and place of origin may drive the price up, there are many underlying factors that constitute this differential. Personally, I wear mil spec SAPI plates. Fortunately, the overwhelming majority of those trying to “plate up” before the fall of society will never need to test as to whether their financial decision was the right choice in regards to reliable plate performance. If it comes to pass that you never need the vest, you made a smart financial decision. If on the other hand things go sideways, you might regret trying to protect your life with the gear that seemed to be a bargain when it was initially purchased.
Yeah, I almost went with the L210 because of weight, but I keep just one mag and a radio in the cummerbund. Everything else is on my belt. The difference in pounds can be lost in other ways like staying in shape lolNot implying Hesko is junk at all (better testing and certification) but most buying Hesco are looking at level IV plates. If I went with Hesco plates, the plates alone would be close to 14 pounds while my current plates are around 10 pounds (I wear 11”x14” plates) a set. Saving four or five pounds off your chest rig is huge and that weight savings comes at increased cost.