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Baptism does not save you. It is a public illustration of your faith in Christ. You are saved through Grace alone, not by any works on your part. Grace ain't Grace if you earn it. Good works are a fruit, or result, of the Holy Spirit working within the heart of the christian. No works of ANY kind on your part will save you, it is all God's doing.
Obedience! Not works. God does the work Through the NAME of Jesus and HE does the work not YOU! You can not be saved by works but you can be saved by obeying! Acts 2:38 is the key and again this is a promise to you and your kids and so on.
 
I disagree. Jesus taught to respect hierarchy as it is God's will to appoint leaders and kings over you (also his will to overthrow and end them). Who he despised were any who claimed righteousness or holiness, and used that falseness to claim power.

Paul has quite a bit to say about Christians criticizing other Christians and judging their practices and/or their souls. All Catholic Dogma is rooted in the Bible. It's just that huge parts of it have been erected over time by the church based on small phrases that are mis/over interpreted, IMHO. Most of the Catholic practices that we/I don't believe in are there for the purpose of focusing the congregant on Jesus. There is also a good reason that many Christians avoid these wrote practices, because they can become so routine that instead of focusing on Jesus the ritual itself becomes the point. They are a double edged sword, but the longevity of the Catholic Church would suggest that they are effective if not strictly biblical. The funniest one is the whole fish on Friday thing, because Paul actually uses that as an example of how Christians are specifically not to criticize each other's differing practices. So while I am not a Catholic I have deep respect for their church, and the faith in Jesus of Catholics. Yea, they do a lot of things I don't agree with, but saying they are not Christians is simply ignorance of what it means to be a Christian, and you could just as easily cast the same stones at half the people sitting in the pews in your own church... so just don't. You are commanded not to by Jesus Christ.

Catholics are fully Christian. Anyone who says they aren't is the real blasphemer.
This guy was pretty smart and knew the Bible. Don't listen to me, listen to him:

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The Catholic Church was created from Pagan religions . No the FATHER SON AND SPIRIT are NOT 3 seperate beings in the form of man. No mother mary or hail mary for that matter... The Council of Nicaea is where Baptism was changed and the Deity in 3 seprate beings which the bible does not support.
1 God Father of all in you all.
Jesus said the Father was in him and he in the Father. He also said I and the Father are 1. Ephesians says 1 body and 1 spirit ( which makes a corporal being). Catholicism wasnt around during the new testament or old testament.... Fabrication of Deity...


Catholics are fully Christian. Anyone who says they aren't is the real blasphemer. Who is the Father the Father of? The Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and she conceived ( that makes the Holy Ghost the Father) So who ius the Father the Father of? Ill wait.

Pm if you would like.
 
Wut? That's simply not true. Jesus referred to God as his or The "father", and to himself as the Son; see the "I AM" statements (liar, lunatic, or Lord). I don't understand what you are trying to get at.
What Catholics believe is virtually identical to what protestants believe.

If they didn't I agree it would be a big problem. Who told you they don't believe in the Trinity?

You need to get out your bible and read what Paul has to say to some Romans about differences on all the bullshit vs the big things.

We'll have the discussion public so maybe other people can learn something. Not that I'm some great theologian, but I've lived with Catholics my whole life. You can't swing a dead cat where I live and not hit one.
 
Wut? That's simply not true. Jesus referred to God as his or The "father", and to himself as the Son; see the "I AM" statements (liar, lunatic, or Lord). I don't understand what you are trying to get at.
What Catholics believe is virtually identical to what protestants believe.

If they didn't I agree it would be a big problem. Who told you they don't believe in the Trinity?

You need to get out your bible and read what Paul has to say to some Romans about differences on all the bullshit vs the big things.

We'll have the discussion public so maybe other people can learn something. Not that I'm some great theologian, but I've lived with Catholics my whole life. You can't swing a dead cat where I live and not hit one.
The Trinity never existed before the council of nicaea. The Trinity does not exist. There is only one God his name is Jesus.
Plz explain again to me who the trinity exists in the Bible. The word is not in the Bible and there is the SPIRIT of the Old Testament and a body in the New Testament . Very simple.. since we are made in his image GODS? How could we be made in the image of God? God is a spirit. So when that baby was born of the HolyGhost (Father). Is. Is tranferred by the blood of the male (Adam). The babies blood comes from the Dad and Adam’s sin was passed down.

Eph 4:4-6 one body (like you with flesh and spirit).
2 Corinth 5:19 God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself.. hmm God the spirit was in Christ?
 
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The Trinity never existed before the council of nicaea. The Trinity does not exist. There is only one God his name is Jesus.
Plz explain again to me who the trinity exists in the Bible. The word is not in the Bible and there is the SPIRIT of the Old Testament and a body in the New Testament . Very simple.. since we are made in his image GODS? How could we be made in the image of God? God is a spirit. So when that baby was born of the HolyGhost (Father). Is. Is tranferred by the blood of the male (Adam). The babies blood comes from the Dad and Adam’s sin was passed down.

Eph 4:4-6 one body (like you with flesh and spirit).
2 Corinth 5:19 God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself.. hmm God the spirit was in Christ?
Who the hell was Jesus praying to and talking to? Saying Jesus is God, but there was no God in Heaven when he was on earth, and not believing that the holy spirit that is also part of makes you what?

For me “The Trinity” is a way to explain something in a not wrong way, but certainly not a complete understanding by any stretch. But it doesn’t have to make perfect scientific sense, because a lot of it doesn’t.

Since you know more than any Christian theologians (these aren’t my original ideas, ha) explain to me how God is outside of time? When you can explain that I’ll explain precisely how God can be in more than one place and be perceived by us as more than one being.

I suspect that you think this is clever, and only you are a true Christian because you only consider Jesus God, but to me it’s a distinction without a difference, and it isn’t supported, because sometimes two things that would seem to conflict can both be true, and that’s one of the keys to glimpsing part of the answer to some of these mysteries.

But, I’m glad you think anyone who believes in or thinks about it in terms of a Trinity isn’t a Christian, because that only puts you in the cult. Not the largest and oldest sect of Christians.

Adam’s sin IS consciousness, or self awareness if you will. The fruit in the garden was on "The Tree of Knowledge". It’s our understanding of good and evil, like God understood it, not some physical pathogen in blood. Satan even tells Eve that she can be like God if she eats! Our original sin is our loss of innocence and the ability to choose evil over good when we (even innately) know the difference.

You need to go to Bible Study.
 
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