I came across this video researching rifle scope testing rigs and just had to share.
https://youtu.be/npdQ7ROgOPQ
https://youtu.be/npdQ7ROgOPQ
Rifle Scopes Pretty interesting rifle scope testing device!
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I've seen a few of their videos. I'd be interested to see what far more knowledgeable people than I, think of these tests.
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
Better to have it and not need it, than to not have it and say oh shit.....
I saw the first version of this machine at MIllett factory many years ago (ten or so, I think). I do not know what kinds of improvements they have made since then. Jim was extremely protective of how exactly they did the testing back then, so he did not let me poke inside it a whole lot. Hence, I can not tell you exactly if it is worthwhile.
That having been said, Jim is definitely a good mechanical engineer. I can not quite ascertain how well he understands optics and imaging though.
The company I work for makes all sorts of optical test systems for targeting payloads, thermal riflescopes, cameras, etc. Simply looking at the way the system is contracted from the outside is mostly reasonable.
To be able to tell you if his test results are accurate, I would need to know a little more about the algorithms he uses.
That having been said, when I visited them those years ago, I brought a couple of decent scopes with me and according to their machine, Millett TRS was better than both of them. I took that TRS home with me and set it up on a collimator at work. My test results were a bit different, although those first gen TRS scopes were surprisingly decent for the time. Then they went into full production and QC took a dive.
ILya
That having been said, Jim is definitely a good mechanical engineer. I can not quite ascertain how well he understands optics and imaging though.
The company I work for makes all sorts of optical test systems for targeting payloads, thermal riflescopes, cameras, etc. Simply looking at the way the system is contracted from the outside is mostly reasonable.
To be able to tell you if his test results are accurate, I would need to know a little more about the algorithms he uses.
That having been said, when I visited them those years ago, I brought a couple of decent scopes with me and according to their machine, Millett TRS was better than both of them. I took that TRS home with me and set it up on a collimator at work. My test results were a bit different, although those first gen TRS scopes were surprisingly decent for the time. Then they went into full production and QC took a dive.
ILya
I think for a machine of that type to have value, it would need to be owned by someone other than a scope manufacturer. That someone must also have no ties or preconceived notions about one brand or another.
I watched a few of the videos and their "box test" consists of adjusting .4Mil in each direction? I'll admit I know dick about optical design, but it doesn't seem to me that .4mil is enough to accurately evaluate the full range of motion of the optic.
The way the collimator and camera is set up leads me to believe there are too many opportunities for outside influence and user error. I'd trust KSE's "Humbler" device way more than this thing...
The way the collimator and camera is set up leads me to believe there are too many opportunities for outside influence and user error. I'd trust KSE's "Humbler" device way more than this thing...
Saw these videos a while back, and although it's a cool tool and I think that it could work (if possibly done better) I don't completely trust the results as this is the only machine of the type that I've ever seen. Also agreed that it would be more trustworthy if owned by a third party.
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Basically this machine states that the Vortex Viper has 27% more light performance than a Kahles 6x24i ......... I can tell you that, though very limited my real world experience says that this is false. But hell I am just the little man on a very very long totem pole.
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