Printed Precision Trickler
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Are there any videos of a powder change with the PP trickler out there or is someone willing to make a quick video highlighting the process (even if you don't actually do it)?
Ready to buy this thing or the IP trickler but haven't been able to get in touch with PP.
Primarily wondering about powder changes (not limited to the powder, but anything else I may need to change too) and about compatibility with small extruded powder compatibility right now.
Ready to buy this thing or the IP trickler but haven't been able to get in touch with PP.
Primarily wondering about powder changes (not limited to the powder, but anything else I may need to change too) and about compatibility with small extruded powder compatibility right now.
PP hasn’t worked for anything smaller than Varget for me. 8208 and N133 don’t work well for me.
Just empty the existing powder and put the new one in. Do a calibration cycle, which takes a few seconds, or just power it down and up and it will automatically calibrate. No 'fine tuning', no messing with obscure parameters, it self-calibrates and tunes.
I had some trouble with H322, which is a very short extruded. It worked, but did relatively too many overthrows.
It is, however, working perfectly with H4350, which is in my video.
The creator has been out of the country for a bit. He will get back to you or chime in here.
Received the same this morning. Looks like you beat me to it I’m #65.
Website is updated as of yesterday as well. Sounds like next round of wait list will be contacted this week. interested to see how many units go out in the next batch.
#44, I haven’t received any emails since my initial reservation but I also haven’t reached out since either.
Comms through the website have been pretty good and reasonably accurate.
Very good communication and especially by comparison to others. I'm in the 20s for reservation so hope to be able to report back here sooner than later. Couple more one day matches this summer/fall and then hunting seasons to load for so ill be motivated to get it up and running ASAP.
I know what you mean. I’m number 45ish and I wonder what is up first for the next batch.I'm going to go out on a limb here, but you are probably 50th, más o menos.
Website update (crazy how that works....)! Prepare for more PP!
Emails are going out for batch #2 ‐ just confirmed a unit
Was there any indication to how many are expected to go out on this second batch? I’m sitting at 65 just hoping I get this email before I get the other waitlist I’m on.
No word on that in my communications. I did receive and pay an invoice first thing this morning. Maybe someone who knows PP can fill us in on the plans.
Just received my reservation number, 79.
Maybe one of his "machines is down" and the rep won't come and fix it
Paul at least has time to catch up at the PPT advertised rate of shipping 3-6 machines per week
Paul at least has time to catch up at the PPT advertised rate of shipping 3-6 machines per week
PPT arrived on Saturday - just a few days after shipment. UPS indicated it was coming. Putting it together took less than an hour while farting around with it to sort out how it all works, read instructions and program the scale.
The interface is very easy. The 3 bottons only is great for simplicity. Selecting the charge weight is very similar to the frustration of trying to set target distance on a kestrel - you blow past the number and have to back track. A trade off for the simplicity is all. That said, im basically loading h4350 only on this now in such a limited charge range that its of little relative importance.
A couple things to note so far. There is one optional step in the set up of gluing together to parts of the base. At least on mine, i dont think it was optional since as soon as I had powder in the hopper it wanted to tip at the lightest touch. No big deal just think its a must. I also needed to cut down my hopper to fot available space which was very easy.
So far I've run about 20 charges through as a test and loaded 50. As the machine is brand new its been more about getting used to it. I need to go through the machine with a dryer sheet, make sure all is set up perfectly, etc before forming any opinions. Ill have a large batch of 6gt to load up soon and will keep track of process, time, over throws, etc.
So far it seems way faster than a matchmaster supreme and i think once it (and my process to match) smooth out it should be great.
The interface is very easy. The 3 bottons only is great for simplicity. Selecting the charge weight is very similar to the frustration of trying to set target distance on a kestrel - you blow past the number and have to back track. A trade off for the simplicity is all. That said, im basically loading h4350 only on this now in such a limited charge range that its of little relative importance.
A couple things to note so far. There is one optional step in the set up of gluing together to parts of the base. At least on mine, i dont think it was optional since as soon as I had powder in the hopper it wanted to tip at the lightest touch. No big deal just think its a must. I also needed to cut down my hopper to fot available space which was very easy.
So far I've run about 20 charges through as a test and loaded 50. As the machine is brand new its been more about getting used to it. I need to go through the machine with a dryer sheet, make sure all is set up perfectly, etc before forming any opinions. Ill have a large batch of 6gt to load up soon and will keep track of process, time, over throws, etc.
So far it seems way faster than a matchmaster supreme and i think once it (and my process to match) smooth out it should be great.
I just got assigned res #86. I asked about 4831SC and it seems as if being a similar size might work. Majority will be Varget, but I’m aiming to also use for a hunting rifle.
I know it’s not the same but I run IMR 4831 in mine with and without the new trickler plates and it runs great
I just used some painters tape to keep the base together and then it allows me to break it back down easily and store it. I usually will get my load data sorted out then load every piece of brass I have and then put the trickler away. If I was constantly switching calibers and powder etc etc then I’d be more inclined to glue it together. Just an option
Valid option and good point. Mine stays put so I didn't even think about this.
I had the powder tube nearly full of varget and if the tube was shorter and I didn’t have a shelf sitting right above my bench I wouldn’t have that varget lol. Heart skipped a beat for a sec.
Made an unboxing video of the trickler. I’m making more videos of it and already recorded some but need to edit into multiple videos. Hope you like it.
Nice. If you fire up that Varget disk, would love to see a few dozen throws to get a sense of how well it performs. For damn near a 1/3rd the cost, if this works well, it's a no brainer to get 2-3 of these from my perspective.
However, if he's only making 3 a week, I'll be getting the IP I suspect...one can hope, though.
He will be ramping up production soon.
Another printer has arrived recently and he is expanding his shop.
Very nice. Thanks for the intel, NQ.
I couldn't help but wonder when I heard the '3 a week' plan why he wasn't down at the local Home Depot getting every swinging dink he could to assemble stuff/print/box/ship/etc and try to get a 1,000 of these out in the wild to take the wind of the sails of others. These opportunities don't come everyday. #ZeroSumGame
(Well, I guess they do...for nearly two years now...but I digress).
In light of the heavy recent interest in the Printed Precision Trickler, and with the extra work involved for the initial product launch and production expansion efforts beginning to settle down, I would like to come forwards and introduce myself as the creator in an effort to address questions beyond just those sent to me directly via email.
The main thing I want to address, alluded to above, is that the first expansion of production capabilities has already been successfully completed. I have always prioritized the quality/accuracy of printed parts over the speed to crank them out, and with only one printer for production initially this was the primary limiting factor in catching up with the existing backlog of reservation numbers. Now that I have validated the accuracy and parts interchangeability from different printers this has resulted in a large improvement in production figures at 8-10 per week compared to the 3-6 previously. Beyond current levels I have additional plans/orders in place to further expand printed part capacity, as well as to bring on assistance with assembly to continue reducing the current wait times as much as possible and eliminate them for the future once caught up.
Along those same lines, the website has been updated once again with the latest information regarding where production is at in the reservation number queue. For reservation numbers 33-38, be on the lookout today for a reply to your original reservation number email since I will be reaching out to confirm your interest and information today as soon as the hoppers for your tricklers are delivered so that the packages can be sealed up for shipment.
Thank you all for your support and patience, particularly those in the very first batch who helped me identify a shortcoming of the original material selection that did not present itself in test units shipped over the past winter, and rest assured that I am working diligently to make sure that those with reservation numbers aren't stuck in an indefinite holding pattern while eagerly awaiting their Printed Precision Trickler.
The main thing I want to address, alluded to above, is that the first expansion of production capabilities has already been successfully completed. I have always prioritized the quality/accuracy of printed parts over the speed to crank them out, and with only one printer for production initially this was the primary limiting factor in catching up with the existing backlog of reservation numbers. Now that I have validated the accuracy and parts interchangeability from different printers this has resulted in a large improvement in production figures at 8-10 per week compared to the 3-6 previously. Beyond current levels I have additional plans/orders in place to further expand printed part capacity, as well as to bring on assistance with assembly to continue reducing the current wait times as much as possible and eliminate them for the future once caught up.
Along those same lines, the website has been updated once again with the latest information regarding where production is at in the reservation number queue. For reservation numbers 33-38, be on the lookout today for a reply to your original reservation number email since I will be reaching out to confirm your interest and information today as soon as the hoppers for your tricklers are delivered so that the packages can be sealed up for shipment.
Thank you all for your support and patience, particularly those in the very first batch who helped me identify a shortcoming of the original material selection that did not present itself in test units shipped over the past winter, and rest assured that I am working diligently to make sure that those with reservation numbers aren't stuck in an indefinite holding pattern while eagerly awaiting their Printed Precision Trickler.
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Congratulations on the launch, sir.
It doesn't take much to 'win the hearts and minds' of the reloading community, and it's the 'simple' stuff like this—updated website, great communication, the appearance to care about us and to welcome feedback/suggestions for improvement, addressing shortcomings, etc, etc...and you nail them all.
This is what makes everyone root for the underdog and wish you nothing but success on this endeavor (versus the disdain and hopes that someone comes along and shaves off more than 50% of your marketshare lol).
I have a feeling as more of these appear in the wild and more and more chatter/videos showing them in action surface, this thing is going to snowball for you...wish you nothing but success, sir.
Now that Dr PP has....ahem...exposed himself...hopefully people will stop thinking it's me or Nite
Still get comments on my videos in that regard!
Still get comments on my videos in that regard!
As a heads up, there will be a delay this week to production as I am introducing a change based on feedback from existing users and this change is waiting on the arrival of new materials.
The primary complaint I have received is not of functionality but convenience, and this was always the lack of a truly removable hopper. That and the length of time required to empty the bulk hopper if you had a full pound or more of powder in it.
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With testing of a valve system completed, I have 6 meters worth of of thick borosilicate glass tubing set to arrive on Thursday or Friday so that all Printed Precision Tricklers going forwards as of next week will ship instead with a glass hopper with an adapter that allows you to shut off flow from the hopper to the bulk dispenser with a short 45* twist. This sealed hopper may then be removed separately from from the bulk dispensing cup.
The production delay is because I need to convert this tubing from multi-meter lengths into shorter hoppers, so if all goes well I should have 50-60 hoppers ready by the start of next week.
For all current owners of Printed Precision Tricklers, I will make an “update kit” consisting of the glass hopper, adapter, and updated bulk dispenser disk + cup available. For existing trickler owners this will be provided to them at cost upon request, and for those placing new orders additional hoppers with an adapter beyond the first will be available for $50 each.
The sales price of the Printed Precision Tricklers will remain unchanged with the improved glass hoppers.
The primary complaint I have received is not of functionality but convenience, and this was always the lack of a truly removable hopper. That and the length of time required to empty the bulk hopper if you had a full pound or more of powder in it.
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With testing of a valve system completed, I have 6 meters worth of of thick borosilicate glass tubing set to arrive on Thursday or Friday so that all Printed Precision Tricklers going forwards as of next week will ship instead with a glass hopper with an adapter that allows you to shut off flow from the hopper to the bulk dispenser with a short 45* twist. This sealed hopper may then be removed separately from from the bulk dispensing cup.
The production delay is because I need to convert this tubing from multi-meter lengths into shorter hoppers, so if all goes well I should have 50-60 hoppers ready by the start of next week.
For all current owners of Printed Precision Tricklers, I will make an “update kit” consisting of the glass hopper, adapter, and updated bulk dispenser disk + cup available. For existing trickler owners this will be provided to them at cost upon request, and for those placing new orders additional hoppers with an adapter beyond the first will be available for $50 each.
The sales price of the Printed Precision Tricklers will remain unchanged with the improved glass hoppers.
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I absolutely love this level of communication. Pumped for my number to come up.
You've ninja'd one of my ideas for an aftermarket enhancement!
And saved me a lot of time designing and printing!
Beautiful
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In contrast to certain "other" fast precision powder throws.
trickles fine, depending on environmental humidity the bulk can get discontinuous due to bridging. I haven’t loaded for magnums since spring so idk how it does with the new hardware, and the inventor is investigating if a baffle can be added to the new hopper design
Yes I have a video with n568 on my channel. Also a video on 8208xbr.
I also recorded ball powders but that’s an exercise in frustration.
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