Haji tried to use a mortar against us but instead of IDF we hear a whistle and see a spinning mortar tube fly across the sky and explode upon landing. I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it myself and our resident JTAC agreed that it appeared to be a dang mortar tube and guessed that somehow the round had not ejected and took the tube with it. I don't know much about mortars so how the heck can that happen? Are we crazy?
Question for any resident mortarmen
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Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
The round was probably damaged on launch and hung up in the tube on the way out. Getting hung up like that would be plenty enough momentum to launch the tube into the air. A lot of the time INS won't use base plates or bipods so they can displace faster, or they don't have them in the first place. All that taken into consideration, and depending on the range from you, I could easily see how it could happen.
I would have loved to have seen the looks on their faces when their tube took the hell off!
The round was probably damaged on launch and hung up in the tube on the way out. Getting hung up like that would be plenty enough momentum to launch the tube into the air. A lot of the time INS won't use base plates or bipods so they can displace faster, or they don't have them in the first place. All that taken into consideration, and depending on the range from you, I could easily see how it could happen.
I would have loved to have seen the looks on their faces when their tube took the hell off!
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
Perhaps project "Project Eldest Son" has been recreated to good effect.
Perhaps project "Project Eldest Son" has been recreated to good effect.
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
I want to see the answer on this one my self. I don't know a lot about mortors, I've shot a few of them but don't really know about them
Mortors are like guns, you fire off a charge, it burns and expanding gas propels the round out of a tube. Like a rifle, if the projectile gets stuck, the gas is gonna keep expanding and something else is gonna give, in this case the tube. Same with a bullet stuck in a rifle barrel.
Now I suppose if you had a gas leak at the bottom of the tube, then the charge was set off, the gas excapes out the bottom of the tube, then the tube and shell could take off like a rocket but I don't see that happening on any tubes I've seen.
I was suppose to go to a mortor school so I could teach mortors to some AK NG Native guard companies, but postponed it because of a delay in getting the mortors to the Alaska National Guard. I kind of wish I went now. This flying mortor tube deal has got me confused.
I want to see the answer on this one my self. I don't know a lot about mortors, I've shot a few of them but don't really know about them
Mortors are like guns, you fire off a charge, it burns and expanding gas propels the round out of a tube. Like a rifle, if the projectile gets stuck, the gas is gonna keep expanding and something else is gonna give, in this case the tube. Same with a bullet stuck in a rifle barrel.
Now I suppose if you had a gas leak at the bottom of the tube, then the charge was set off, the gas excapes out the bottom of the tube, then the tube and shell could take off like a rocket but I don't see that happening on any tubes I've seen.
I was suppose to go to a mortor school so I could teach mortors to some AK NG Native guard companies, but postponed it because of a delay in getting the mortors to the Alaska National Guard. I kind of wish I went now. This flying mortor tube deal has got me confused.
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
Looks like this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOcL1JJp7s
Looks like this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOcL1JJp7s
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
certainly wasn't like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoArwxB2GdU
allahu akbar!....crickets...allahu akbar!...crickets...
*scratches head....*...
Inshallah?
hahahahaha
I love how confused the one guy looks.
Would have been nice to have spotted that scene through an alleyway or another means.
certainly wasn't like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoArwxB2GdU
allahu akbar!....crickets...allahu akbar!...crickets...
*scratches head....*...
Inshallah?
hahahahaha
I love how confused the one guy looks.
Would have been nice to have spotted that scene through an alleyway or another means.
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zeroed1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOcL1JJp7s </div></div>
There is a reason that those are happening.
Based on the items I saw used, the items recovered in caches, and intel that I read, hadji used anything and everything to make IEDs, mortors, and anything that goes boom. PVC is a favorite. A mortar round stuck in a lightweight pvc or metal tube makes sense to me.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zeroed1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOcL1JJp7s </div></div>
There is a reason that those are happening.
Based on the items I saw used, the items recovered in caches, and intel that I read, hadji used anything and everything to make IEDs, mortors, and anything that goes boom. PVC is a favorite. A mortar round stuck in a lightweight pvc or metal tube makes sense to me.
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
I was an 11C for several years and I can say that a possible scenario for this is as follows. Mr. Hadji was using the mortar sans baseplate and bipod. Goofball drops the round down the tube, and loses his handhold on the tube at the same time. Tube falls and round launches at the same time. POOF! every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Tube goes flying. That's my take.
I was an 11C for several years and I can say that a possible scenario for this is as follows. Mr. Hadji was using the mortar sans baseplate and bipod. Goofball drops the round down the tube, and loses his handhold on the tube at the same time. Tube falls and round launches at the same time. POOF! every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Tube goes flying. That's my take.
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately I can't watch the videos out here but I appreciate the opinions and suggestions. Some of these guys out here are so poorly trained or just not trained at all that crazy stuff like this happens from time to time, I suppose.
Thanks for the replies. Unfortunately I can't watch the videos out here but I appreciate the opinions and suggestions. Some of these guys out here are so poorly trained or just not trained at all that crazy stuff like this happens from time to time, I suppose.
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zeroed1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOcL1JJp7s </div></div>
All kinds of win in those videos!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Zeroed1983</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looks like this:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3a7_1187501259
or:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FOcL1JJp7s </div></div>
All kinds of win in those videos!
Re: Question for any resident mortarmen
An 82mm round in a 81mm tube? Bad round? Or a drone got them.
Stay safe!
An 82mm round in a 81mm tube? Bad round? Or a drone got them.
Stay safe!
