Depends if you want to go by the rules or try and skirt them and hope the package doesn't get lost or stolen or now when they are actively looking for firearms confiscated. It's a new system out there. There are UPS rules that you can not ship them so having been dealing with them before shipping and seeing the mess I sure as hell would not ship one without disclosing the contents and have to deal with the consequences. Roll the dice and take your chances.
Okay, maybe I've misunderstood before
This is from the ATF (
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/waisidx_09/27cfr478_09.html)
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You must ship to an FFL holder:
Federal law requires all modern firearms be shipped to a holder of a valid Federal Firearms License (FFL). Any person who is legally allowed to own a firearm is legally allowed to ship it to an FFL holder for any legal purpose (including sale or resale).
Here is what the ATF "Federal Firearms Regulations Reference Guide"' (ATF P 5300.4) says:
(B9) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by carrier? A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by carrier to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 178.31, 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U. S. Postal Service? A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own state or to a licensee in any state. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. A nonlicensee may not transfer any firearm to a nonlicensed resident of another state. The Postal Service recommends that longguns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]
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So help me understand, if I have a UPS driver pickup a rifle I've packaged and shipping to an FFL and I tell the driver "this is a rifle", shouldn't that satisfy the requirements of the law? I am very confused (just the way the Left likes it) as to what all the new shipping regulations (not federal regulations, but those imposed by the shipping companies themselves) are and how they affect customers.
In going to UPS website, I find the following (
https://www.ups.com/us/en/support/s...egulated-items/prohibited-items/firearms.page):
Shipping Firearm Products
Definitions:
“Firearm” will have the same definition as set forth in Title 18, Chapter 44, and Title 26, Chapter 53, of the United States Code.
“Firearm Part” is any part or component of a Firearm that does not by itself meet the definition of a “Firearm.” By way of example only, Firearm Parts include, but are not limited to, barrels, stocks, grips, firing pins, sights, and magazines/clips.
“Firearm Products” means Firearms and Firearm Parts. The term Firearm Product does not include scopes.
UPS accepts packages containing Firearm Products for shipment only as a contractual service and only from Shippers who are licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, or licensed collectors (as defined in Title 18, Chapter 44 of the United States Code) to authorized recipients, as outlined in the approved UPS agreement for the transportation of Firearm Products.
So if I'm reading this correctly, UPS is saying that if I have a barrel, I (personally) cannot ship this item to a person even though it is perfectly legal for me to do so? They do not list "scope" but I assume that is a firearm part just as much as a sight is, I am guessing this would not be allowed either? When the heck did UPS go fully commie!?!!!
So basically, avoid UPS for everything.
Fedex website says this (
https://www.fedex.com/en-us/shipping/how-to-ship-firearms.html):
Steps for how to ship firearms
Shippers with a Federal Firearm License
Only customers holding a Federal Firearms License (FFL) and federal, state, or local government agencies may ship firearms with FedEx. Customers holding an FFL must enter into an approved FedEx Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement before shipping any firearms with FedEx. Also, you must be an approved firearm shipper with a signed contract on file with FedEx. For more information, contact your FedEx account executive.
Nonlicensee shippers
Nonlicensees are prohibited from shipping firearms with FedEx.
Similar to UPS, Fedex is saying a firearm must be shipped from an FFL and that FFL must have an agreement with Fedex? Again, when did these new rules come into play as this is not what federal law states, maybe I've been oblivious the past few years but I had no idea about these new rules until recently. At least Fedex does not say anything about a firearm part, so apparently you can ship a barrel or a scope through Fedex without the Marxist oversight that UPS is imposing.
And who'd have thought the the federal governments own USPS is the most lenient! Yes, USPS prohibits shipping pistols, but they do allow non-FFL holders to ship rifles (
https://pe.usps.com/text/pub52/pub52c4_009.htm#ep345833)
432.3 Rifles and Shotguns
Except under
431.2, unloaded rifles and shotguns are mailable. Mailers must comply with the rules and regulations under 27 CFR, Part 478, as well as state and local laws. The mailer may be required by the USPS to establish, by opening the parcel or by written certification, that the rifle or shotgun is unloaded and not ineligible for mailing. The following conditions also apply:
- Subject to state, territory, or district regulations, rifles and shotguns may be mailed without restriction when intended for delivery within the same state of mailing. These items must:
- Bear a “Return Service Requested” endorsement.
- Be mailed using a class of mail, product, or Extra Service that provides tracking and signature capture at delivery.
- A rifle or shotgun owned by a non-FFL may be mailed outside the owner‘s state of residence by the owner to himself or herself, in care of another person in the other state where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. These mailpieces must:
- Be addressed to the owner.
- Include the “in the care of” endorsement immediately preceding the name of the applicable temporary custodian.
- Be opened by the rifle or shotgun owner only.
- Be mailed using a class of mail, product, or Extra Service that provides tracking and signature capture at delivery.
- Mailing of rifles and shotguns between licensed FFL dealers, manufacturers, or importers are not restricted. The Postal Service recommends that these items be mailed using a class of mail, product, or Extra Service that provides tracking and signature capture at delivery.
- Rifles and shotguns may be mailed by a non-FFL owner domestically to a FFL dealer, manufacturer, or importer in any state. These items must be mailed using a class of mail, product, or Extra Service that provides tracking and signature capture at delivery.
What an absolute PITA the shippers have made this, how much the left has infiltrated every part of our society is alarming, 2020 proved that to all those who may have been in doubt. Hopefully next weeks elections will send a massive wakeup call to the overreach of the left and begin to change a lot of this for the better.
