Shutdown and US LE Officers

[Foul Mike]

With this essential and non-essential classifications I am wondering how many are really needed?
In the case of the LE types I am sure there is plenty of fat to be trimmed from the top end but what about the guards at the Federal Pens?
Most Pens are understaffed already and if a few quit because of this that is OK too as they weren't really all that dedicated, however, bills need paid.
What should the Govt. do? Open the doors and let a whole bunch of bad hombres out? That would be a real shit show as I don't think they are in there because they have dandruff.
Close the doors on SuperMax and let Ted K and his friends back out on the street and all of the MS-13 Assholes go too because the guards watching them have moved on to jobs where they can support their families?
Maybe figure out just who is essential and get them a check so they don't move on?
Your thoughts?
Army Jerry, I know, fuck them all, I hope there is a Pen near you to supply targets and they let them out one at a time so you have time to aim.
BUY MORE AMMO in case they escape real fast and I hope you have something belt fed.

 

[thejeep]

Or they could just gas em and let them rot in place.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Huntsville is close and I gotta tell you I don't worry one bit.

 

[MtnCreek]

Huntsville is close and I gotta tell you I don't worry one bit.

 

[_Windrider_]

Ar

With this essential and non-essential classifications I am wondering how many are really needed?
In the case of the LE types I am sure there is plenty of fat to be trimmed from the top end but what about the guards at the Federal Pens?
Most Pens are understaffed already and if a few quit because of this that is OK too as they weren't really all that dedicated, however, bills need paid.
What should the Govt. do? Open the doors and let a whole bunch of bad hombres out? That would be a real shit show as I don't think they are in there because they have dandruff.
Close the doors on SuperMax and let Ted K and his friends back out on the street and all of the MS-13 Assholes go too because the guards watching them have moved on to jobs where they can support their families?
Maybe figure out just who is essential and get them a check so they don't move on?
Your thoughts?
Army Jerry, I know, fuck them all, I hope there is a Pen near you to supply targets and they let them out one at a time so you have time to aim.
BUY MORE AMMO in case they escape real fast and I hope you have something belt fed.

Are federal prison guards homeland security or justice Dept? To my knowledge it’s only DHS that has “furloughed officers and agents.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

Ar

Are federal prison guards homeland security or justice Dept? To my knowledge it’s only DHS that has “furloughed officers and agents.

Federal Bureau of Prisons is under DOJ, but they aren't being paid either. Non-essential personnel are furloughed and essential personnel are currently working without pay.

 

[Bantam1]

DSS isn't getting paid either. I'm not sure if they fall under DHS or DOJ. My buddy said a lot of agents are pissed that they have to work being considered essential employees and aren't getting paid.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

DSS isn't getting paid either. I'm not sure if they fall under DHS or DOJ. My buddy said a lot of agents are pissed that they have to work being considered essential employees and aren't getting paid.

Diplomatic Security Service is Dept. of State.

 

[THEIS]

Hi,

Every single Federal Government employee signed their employment documents with initials beside the very section that states whether they are considered essential or non-essential during events such as "Government Shutdowns" and that they understand the possibilities of working with delayed (Because there is no such thing as NO pay) pay.

Sincerely,
Theis

 

[101stinfantry]

They will eventually get paid. Sucks to have to find out how shitty your pay check, to pay check plan really is.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Gents gents, we should fire all of them and invoke the 10th amendment.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

Gents gents, we should fire all of them and invoke the 10th amendment.

Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

So what do you do with those that have a direct constitutional mandate under Article I, section 8 ?

 

[ArmyJerry]

Read Article 1 Section 8 and you will see the government is doing a lot more damage than they are actually allowed to be doing. Internal war is near.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8




Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
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The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;




To borrow money on the credit of the United States;


To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;




To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;


To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

 

[Deleted member 113831]

Read Article 1 Section 8 and you will see the government is doing a lot more damage than they are actually allowed to be doing. Internal war is near.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8

Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 8 - Powers of Congress
<<Back | Table of Contents | Next>>

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

The underlined portions sure sound a lot like the mission of U.S. Customs and U.S. Border Patrol. I wonder if that is where the idea came from?

 

[ArmyJerry]

Well I a talking about the FBI ATF etc and other douchebags, that shouldn't exist under the constitution. The BP is not a law agency in my book but more like a greeter at wall mart with uglier outfits.