Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I’d rather see life in prison. Partly becasue I don’t think death is as severe a punishment as a lifetime of incarceration, but also because I believe that it’s not our place to take a life without the immediate need for self defense.

I see it this way, if left alive in prison he has time to turn to Christ and be saved.

This is actually very rational thank you for sharing that thought.
 
I just got in and saw the news they have a sooter but has the rest begun?Have those white racist MAGAS begun to burn down cities and loot yet?What are they waiting for its been almost 2 days? Dont they need flat screens and Air Jordans too?This is strange.
Plenty of people getting their pound of flesh. Just getting started. The internet is forever after all....
 
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I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I’d rather see life in prison. Partly becasue I don’t think death is as severe a punishment as a lifetime of incarceration, but also because I believe that it’s not our place to take a life without the immediate need for self defense.

I see it this way, if left alive in prison he has time to turn to Christ and be saved.
Seriously? Nothing like $100k a year in tax money being spent to give this cocksucker food, bed, heat, air conditioning, and cable tv. Fuck him.

And "life in prison" is pretty easily ended with a presidential pardon. You think the next Dem that wins wouldn't sign that paper?
 
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I see it this way, if left alive in prison he has time to turn to Christ and be saved.

I honestly believe this is what Charlie would’ve believed and his wife knows and believes this as well. That is why she doesn’t want the death penalty for him.

I can’t imagine how very difficult that is for her, but it is a testament to her faith in the Lord.
 
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Everyone claiming this was a professional shooter with no evidence sure is quiet today.

Remember the guy saying he was purposely shot “in the voice box” to silence him? Even though your voice box isn’t in the lower left half of your neck.

Yeah, I remember that guy

and he still thinks that
 
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One of the guys who works for me brought his family to a pig roast I did last Friday.

His daughter is second grade… maybe 8 or so?

And a rabid vegan and “friend of all animals” who had a look of horror on her face at meat. Wouldn’t eat anything. Ended up eating grapes from my vines.

Parents said “we’re hoping she’ll
Grow out of it?”

Grow Out of it??? They should be suing the school for every penny the district has. First
Because at that age she needs protein and nutrition. Which I assume her mom who is a PA (PhD nurse) is handling. And if they have her this fucked up at school at this age…. It will only get worse.

These kids are getting brainwashed from kindergarten. And it is appalling. Any school employee pushing this sort of shit should be removed from kids and put on the equivalent of a pedo list and banned from any contact with youth.

This is how they are destroying the nuclear family.

Sirhr

It’s shit like this that has me paying $600/month to send our son to a private Lutheran school for as long as we can.
 
It’s shit like this that has me paying $600/month to send our son to a private Lutheran school for as long as we can.

Same. I’ve had both my daughters (now 18 and 16) in Christian private school
since kindergarten.

Money well spent, but it doesn’t not absolve the parents from continuing that example and education in the home.
 
I honestly believe this is what Charlie would’ve believed and his wife knows and believes this as well. That is why she doesn’t want the death penalty for him.

I can’t imagine how very difficult that is for her, but it is a testament to her faith in the Lord.
Yep, and Christ tought us forgiveness. Not weakness, he must be punished. Stronger than I.
 
I have been asking why is Soros still alive for a long time.
I have never gotten an answer.

He (and his cartel) have brought great misery to America at the least.

But I'm pretty sure he doesn't own President Donald Trump like he did past presidents.

Anyone stupid enough here to believe I'm wrong speak up . Lol

I have physically ran off three rented airport limo vans and a pickup truck full of his paid agitators and handlers from my street. (Two separate occasions)


I hope DJT takes the threat he poses seriously. Soros has never had to worry about any other administration and operated with impunity.
 
Who cares what the widow wants done with the perpetrator. Besides, she probably isnt even in a state of mind to be making massive decisions at the moment anyways. She needs to grieve.
Poor thing. So sad.


But, Justice must be administered justly, fairly, and swiftly. And keeping him alive just so he can hopefully repent someday is stupid. God is just and fair. God can decide his fate. Justice must be impartial.
 
Who cares what the widow wants done with the perpetrator. Besides, she probably isnt even in a state of mind to be making massive decisions at the moment anyways. She needs to grieve.
Poor thing. So sad.


But, Justice must be administered justly, fairly, and swiftly. And keeping him alive just so he can hopefully repent someday is stupid. God is just and fair. God can decide his fate. Justice must be impartial.

If sentenced to death it’ll take years and probably get commuted or something 10yrs from now.
 
When were you attacked? What city?
I won't entirely dox myself, but this was happening up and down the west coast since 2014 when the Ferguson riots started. I was in the NW, I'll let you guess on whether Portland or Seattle. The black bloc/Antifa criminal groups have a long history in the leftist cities there, and were previously running pro-communist May Day riots before they ramped up with the BLM activity after 2014.


Brazen Bull.
Niiiice. I'm an advocate for feetfirst into the low-powered woodchipper, but I respect your classic Mycenean style.
 
I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I’d rather see life in prison. Partly becasue I don’t think death is as severe a punishment as a lifetime of incarceration, but also because I believe that it’s not our place to take a life without the immediate need for self defense.

I see it this way, if left alive in prison he has time to turn to Christ and be saved.

The problem with "Life without Parole" is the defendant can still have family visits, etc., albeit through a glass shield. A victim's family no longer has that luxury. Justice denied. If, for example, one could be sentenced to "Life without Parole and total Solitary confinement with no family or other visitors, then that might work.But I'm sure most defense lawyers would sue for that being "cruel & unusual" punishment.

Taking a life in this context (Capital Punishment) is a matter of justice, and nothing else. It's not "vengeance" at all. One only takes the life after the entire justice process has run its course and it's confirmed that the correct and appropriate punishment is Death. "Vengeance" involves taking that life without the benefit of the full justice process (ie, "lynching"). That is wrong and should never happen.

With forfeiture of the defendant's life, at least the VIctim's survivors and the defendant's survivors are now on equal footing. Horrible footing, yes, but "equal."
 
I’m sure I’m in the minority, but I’d rather see life in prison. Partly becasue I don’t think death is as severe a punishment as a lifetime of incarceration....

I'm not interested in vengeful punishment, just in sorting it all out. How do we deal with what he's become? I believe people should be confronted with and face their own beliefs and own actions. The kid clearly felt it was okay to kill this man. So he nor anyone else should feel the slightest bit of doubt or second guess him facing his own beliefs because he's shown us he's okay with it.
 
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Homeschooling is really the only true safe alternative.

Not in the PRNJ it isn't. They're trying to pass legislation that would require all homeschooling curricula to comply with all their woke/DEI standards, and they will require parents to be subject to "wellness visits" where they verify that the State standards are being followed. In that case, then what's the point of homeschooling? One may as well relocate to another state. 🤪
 
Everyone claiming this was a professional shooter with no evidence sure is quiet today.

Remember the guy saying he was purposely shot “in the voice box” to silence him? Even though your voice box isn’t in the lower left half of your neck.
That was a former female FBI agent that said that I believe.... absolutely ridiculous. The countless people on television saying this was a professional for a shot at 140 yards really kills all their credibility.
 
I never said the right wasn't/hasn't been throwing a fit.... this forum serves as a great document as to how y'all feel.

But anyway, have fun in your civil war bro (y)
Ha, the last thing I want is a civil war. I believe the initiation of violence is always wrong. However, a person has the moral right and obligation to defend themselves in the face of harm.

I would much rather people change their views than fight. I just know you can't mix oil and water, life and anti-life.
 
Like when your kid has in home school because of covid and the liberal maggots at the school refuse to let parents overwatch what's going on?

Or how about when in the second or third grade the teacher decides to rewrite the second amendment and you kid jumps up in the middle of class an yells LIAR.

And the fucking Democrat principal tries to back the lying teacher and asks how would I know? I made the sick fuck turn around and read it off a plack on the God Damned wall behind him.

Experts at lying and subverting children with faggot indoctrination is what the school system is full of all over America.

They are culpable in these shootings.
 
The problem with "Life without Parole" is the defendant can still have family visits, etc., albeit through a glass shield. A victim's family no longer has that luxury. Justice denied. If, for example, one could be sentenced to "Life without Parole and total Solitary confinement with no family or other visitors, then that might work.But I'm sure most defense lawyers would sue for that being "cruel & unusual" punishment.

Taking a life in this context (Capital Punishment) is a matter of justice, and nothing else. It's not "vengeance" at all. One only takes the life after the entire justice process has run its course and it's confirmed that the correct and appropriate punishment is Death. "Vengeance" involves taking that life without the benefit of the full justice process (ie, "lynching"). That is wrong and should never happen.

With forfeiture of the defendant's life, at least the VIctim's survivors and the defendant's survivors are now on equal footing. Horrible footing, yes, but "equal."

And people always discount the deterrent value of a righteous death swiftly delivered to someone who truly earned it, but it’s a real thing.

Sadly, we’ll see the deterrent value of Charlie’s death too… I know a lot of folks, especially pundits, are saying this event has galvanized their resolve, but there’s 100 people for every one of them who are now gonna think twice before speaking their mind in public over the fear of not knowing if some lunatic is behind them just waiting for a reason to act out.

I’d like to think I’m in the camp of the former, but TBH, will be checking out everyone around me before I speak my mind.

We’re rapidly devolving from what was once a high trust society, and that just sucks
 
And the guy saying it was Israel. He’s quiet.

And the guy saying Charlie grabbed his neck after the shot. He’s quiet.

Don’t forget Mr. Chest Plate Body Armor Ricochet man :ROFLMAO:

And all those Transgender Blue Haired Crazy Liberal Immigrant Assassin people
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And the guy saying it was Israel. He’s quiet.

And the guy saying Charlie grabbed his neck after the shot. He’s quiet.
Don’t forget the Suppressor crowd, claiming they make the report completely quiet and all you hear is the shockwave/crack.

Fucking up is okay.

Owning your fuck up is where the learning happens.
 
I see many here are taking the MSM at face value on all of this. Yet those same folks say all MSM's outlets are liars? I'm confused which is it?

Karen, Debby Downer, Negative Nancy, gracing us with her cancerous drivel once again! 💩

Yes, MSMedia are liars, but that doesn't mean they don't report some truth on occasion, and it doesn't mean there won't be charges in the future against people who conspired with him.
 
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How do we deal with what he's become? I believe people should be confronted with and face their own beliefs and own actions.

He should be confronted with the weight and impropriety of his actions and some effort should be made to understand the forge that fired his hatred.

Then he should be executed, not because of who he is or who he murdered but simply because he murdered.

Bonus if anything learned from interviewing/analyzing him can be used for good.
 
This whole theory that he jumped off the building with a bolt action rifle in his pants, landed, knees full bent to where it looks like his ass touches the ground. And runs off to some nearby wooded area to ditch the supposed rifle they are claiming they found with a spent cartridge in the chamber. No fucking way he jumped from that building with THAT rifle in his pants and his legs bent the way they did when he landed. No fucking way. Make this shit make sense. Do they think we are fucking stupid
I was thinking the same thing but it looks like he had something in has left hand when he jumped off the roof. Hard to tell what it is but could be some sort of long bag that could conceal a rifle.