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Does that surprise you? That's why we will never win this conflict, while we "selectively" pick targets for the least collateral damage, they kill anyone for any reason. Unfortunately, in the case of ISIL, the only way to get rid of them is kill them all (men, women, and children) as they are all indoctrinated into the same train of thought. I know many will say "not the children" but when these kids get old enough to kill others, they will JMHO. Put a few 52's in a cap station over a town and when they parade down the streets waiving their black flags, drop a few hundred tons of ordnance on them and call it a day.
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Honestly, not surprised.
Easy Western outrage, low cost to produce. Many in the West have never seen a headless body, not to mention a beheading in HD. To the average Joe, this blows their minds.
Look at the amount of "spin" these pricks get with 1 death. The trajectory is steep, easy to do.
We don't see the 50 (You can pick any number that suits you, it was just a random number I picked) other beheadings/executions these assholes pull off every fucking day.
They are begging for the "hammer" they so richly deserve. Hairball is right.
The Middle East has much "What the Fuck?". Always has.
Easy Western outrage, low cost to produce. Many in the West have never seen a headless body, not to mention a beheading in HD. To the average Joe, this blows their minds.
Look at the amount of "spin" these pricks get with 1 death. The trajectory is steep, easy to do.
We don't see the 50 (You can pick any number that suits you, it was just a random number I picked) other beheadings/executions these assholes pull off every fucking day.
They are begging for the "hammer" they so richly deserve. Hairball is right.
The Middle East has much "What the Fuck?". Always has.
Until we deal with these people like we dealt with the Imperial Japanese and the Nazis, this will continue. I'm referring to carpet bombing of everything that moves, with total and utter disrespect for those "innocent" persons in the way. In WWII we had no compunction about fire bombing entire cities and everyone in it. Prior to dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki we firebombed Tokyo and other cities killing 90K in a couple of nights. Anyone here in the U.S. get squeamish and complain? Nope, prolly not...
Also, this is, these beheadings, old news. They have been carrying on like this for thousands of years, and a couple more days won't make any difference.
But at least with the videos the world will get to see what those of us who remember, and aren't politically correct, have been saying all along...
Also, this is, these beheadings, old news. They have been carrying on like this for thousands of years, and a couple more days won't make any difference.
But at least with the videos the world will get to see what those of us who remember, and aren't politically correct, have been saying all along...
Hair ball is right. With their religious ideology the only way to defeat them is to kill every last one of them. They feel the same about us and they won't stop until they succeed or are wiped out.
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I don't know what can be said here, about this topic, that won't get a person banned. So in short, commence bombing.
I agree. Carpet bomb the shit out of them. Have a nice life
This^^^^ Pull the chain on everthing we got.
Or the 400 Yazidi women who were sold into sex slavery.
There is a certain poetic justice at work here. Assad-Syria a puppet state of Russia. The same state-regime that used nerve gas on innocent women and children. Is engaged in an all out war against IS.
Next to them is Hezbollah, also fighting IS and suffering substantial casualties. Which keeps them occupied and a little less inclined to cause trouble in Lebanon and with Israel.
At the other end of this septic tank is Iran, the Republican Guard, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq,Mahdi Army,Quds Forces, etc. All killing each other. A prayer directly in front of the Ka'ba in Mecca couldn't create a better situation.
Sucking in other militants with a desire for jihad, virgins and the after life. I really don't see how many of these IS jihad wannabe's are going to escape this caldron.
Arm the Kurds, the Christians and the FSA. Give them enough weapons to defend themselves and let Assad, IS and Iran go at it.
Throw in some free one way airline tickets to Istanbul with bus tickets to the Syrian border. If the demand warrants charter air flights would also work.
Just keep the free lance journalists out. The seem to get enormous airtime from their friends and colleagues every time one is beheaded. Journalists who think that dying from beheading is worse than nerve gas, a bullet in the guts, etc.
Thankfully the new Iraq PM,Haider al-Abadi will likely never give the Sunni any power as long as the US supplies airpower and Iran blood and flesh.Elections are coming up for the supplier of airpower, limiting the scope of actions.
Journalists give maximum airtime to every death of every journalist as if a dead Kurd or Iraq Christian doesn't have a family as well.Airtime that drives more jihadists to the theater.
Next to them is Hezbollah, also fighting IS and suffering substantial casualties. Which keeps them occupied and a little less inclined to cause trouble in Lebanon and with Israel.
At the other end of this septic tank is Iran, the Republican Guard, Asa'ib Ahl al-Haq,Mahdi Army,Quds Forces, etc. All killing each other. A prayer directly in front of the Ka'ba in Mecca couldn't create a better situation.
Sucking in other militants with a desire for jihad, virgins and the after life. I really don't see how many of these IS jihad wannabe's are going to escape this caldron.
Arm the Kurds, the Christians and the FSA. Give them enough weapons to defend themselves and let Assad, IS and Iran go at it.
Throw in some free one way airline tickets to Istanbul with bus tickets to the Syrian border. If the demand warrants charter air flights would also work.
Just keep the free lance journalists out. The seem to get enormous airtime from their friends and colleagues every time one is beheaded. Journalists who think that dying from beheading is worse than nerve gas, a bullet in the guts, etc.
Thankfully the new Iraq PM,Haider al-Abadi will likely never give the Sunni any power as long as the US supplies airpower and Iran blood and flesh.Elections are coming up for the supplier of airpower, limiting the scope of actions.
Journalists give maximum airtime to every death of every journalist as if a dead Kurd or Iraq Christian doesn't have a family as well.Airtime that drives more jihadists to the theater.
You think you are being funny but you are right! is S&B a publicly traded company yet? I mean Henny is already selling 6K scopes. When I thought we d all be wiping the desert paint stuff off our gear, it looks like desert camo is still in fashion.
They have a couple more journalists. Once they cut off their heads what will they have? These people went on their own free will to that crap hole. It is no different than the thread on the Hide member wanting help in Haiti. If you go to these places be prepared to pay the price. As for carpet bombing. All the "MEDIA" is for doing something because a couple of theirs got wacked. but let a couple kids get hurt and the tards will turn on who ever pushed the go button. Remember they are the ones who say that there is no reason to shoot a criminal in the chest. Cant you can shoot them in the leg or taze them? I say let them dance and parade around like they have a pair. Once they pull off some stupid stunt in Europe or here let the carpet bombing commence.
I wasn't trying to be funny. We need that WWII mentality to fix a lot of the problems in this country.
I say we turn that desert into one big glass factory.
I don't think that the majority of America has the stomach for the only solution. That is what scares the shit out of me. How bad will it get before there is support for actually winning a fight. Everyone knows our military is up to the job. I fear that this stuff is going to start happening a lot more locally. Why would it not? Can someone give me one good reason to think that we will do something we haven't done in any conflict or war since ww2? What will it take? I totally agree with the scorched earth policy, but please! We have had it so good for so long that few are alive that can tell you why we have it so good. And there is the problem. Oh wait, gotta see who wins dancing with the stars, gotta go! Hang on to your ass I fear this might be a real bitch before it's over.
I was thinking the same thing. Just like the guy in Haiti. What the F do these people expect? Pisses me off. What about Americans who need help? Donate you time here!!!! Wait til ISIS makes a move here on our conveniently open border. Then all the gun grabbers and libtards will be begging for a gun and some ammo. Ain't getting any of mine. Good luck with that. Bet if you beg nicely they won't slice your head off. IDIOTS. ****** I know I'm all over the place but I'm pissed. I have to worry about sending my kids to school now because of all this BS****
You hit the nail on the head...Unfortunately. And of course this is the week I happened to do a study on Psalm 83.
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In truth, this habit of seizing women as slaves has never ceased in that part of the world. It's an old habit that ISIS/ISIL/IS/ragged mob of scum is most likely trying to portray as something permitted by the Koran, just like the beheadings.
Check out one of the biggest scumbags of all time: Nader Shah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia His time in India typifies such behavior: Nader Shah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Our interaction with him:
Such people only respect ultimate displays of power. The world has a choice in dealing with murderous, thieving despots: you either suffer their existence, or you eliminate them. I wish I had every confidence that the second option were truly on the table. Somehow, I doubt it.
I said it before and I'll say it again, the only solution is to turn the region to glass. Men, women and children, glass em. Don't have the stomach for it? I'll push the button.
"Mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun." Noel Coward
Some times ya gotta get really'mad' to take care of business. NO offense intended to you or your brotherhood, V.
None taken, oh Squirmy One.
These beheadings are nothing new. During the invasion of Iraq in a small town of Numanyia, we came across 20 or more men women and children that had their heads cut off and their heads placed on a wall facing the main road so we would see.
Whether is bullets in the head or heads cut off the vermin must be erradicated with extreme predujice. Life is cheap and those of us who been downrange have seen what these people really are and stand for. Simply put they are cavemen.
Whether is bullets in the head or heads cut off the vermin must be erradicated with extreme predujice. Life is cheap and those of us who been downrange have seen what these people really are and stand for. Simply put they are cavemen.
It should come as no shock, that these extremists will continue to kill innocent people, even if we stop intervening in their terrorism. They want nothing more than to be able to kill anyone without consequence, and to be able to do whatever they want un-abated. This should just go to show that they do not follow conventional rules, and should be all the excuse we need to level their terrorist villages, women and children included.
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There is a lot of wisdom in this. But any way you slice it The 3rd world war ( Holy War ) is coming and the foundation is just starting to be laid.
This is just the beginning. That cancer has only reached here a time of two. There are so many enemies in our country at this time the next strike is going to be massive. It is going to make beheadings look like Harry Potter.
I'm ready. Whatever comes down the pike, we are ready over here.
Their is evidence surfacing from some agencies that the body in the Foley video is actually that of a female stand in. The biggest point they are using is the feet and ankles. Its a known attribute women have over men to be able to hyperflexion of the ankles, and the feet of the victim are more feminine. Also if you look at the arms in the video, they are much much smaller than that of Foley. They have been studying the video pretty well, and their starting to believe that because they didn't post the actual beheading like they normally do in the past, and that the physical characteristics dont match up, such as the legs and feet, that the beheading part is a fake.
I got an idea how about you help the people you want to help and let other people help the people they want to help. What do you think gives you the right to tell some one else who to help? As far as the guy in Haiti he was just asking for some ideas to help him formulate a plan to cope with a problem he has, he is not asking you to go their and bail him out. Good thing too because you pussies that construe every request for help as a obligation of the US taxpayer would not be worth a shit even if you were sent.....
As for Haiti, it is not like the MidEast and it is not a lost cause. Haiti has a lot of problems (and I am not going to get into the politics) but Let me clue you in.....The Haitian people are nice people, and I applaud those those who try to help them. They make the world a better place.
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Now there is a man that knows the truth! I bet that you have stood in the gap for many people!
Funny (not really) but most of those problems start in the same place as in other countries. Religion and corrupt politicians. Baby Doc, any one?
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Every place takes it turn at the shit hole. Haiti-yes. Africa--Kony, China, N Korea, There is massive corruption, blood thursty gangs, starvation, and violent travesty everywhere.
We are next to be in line if ISIS gets organized.
We have the best military in the world but our leadership doesn't have the spine to pull the trigger.
Our false image comes before our safety. Our safety was compromised 15 years go.
The tide is going out and there will be a uncomfortable calm until we see the in the distance the faint white of a 60 foot wave.
Our shit storm is coming and when it finally arrives on US soil it is going to make Haiti look like a South Beach.
So lets say it does. Lets say all 60,000 IS members show up in Mexico next month. For one concentrated group, yeah thats a pretty menacing number. They would take some serious ground if they all stayed together. But I just dont see how they would be able to keep up logistics with that many people concentrated together, just feeding them would take the resources of a large, wealthy nation. Not to mention that if they are concentrated together, lets face reality here they would definitely take a good chunk of territory. But they would also make a nice, big juicy target. Within a week or two at most, our snowball would rolling at full speed and IS would be taking casualties left and right. Id bet we could completely roll them up within a month and a half after we had solid intel on their location, numbers, etc and a week or so to respond.
So maybe theyre smart, maybe they dont take that route. Lets say they split up into roughly platoon-size formations and keep it real low-key. Two platoons in any/every major city across the states. What would we do? How exactly would we fight something like this? Ie say they set up shop in those major cities and start shooting up shopping malls and schools. Im pondering how exactly we could fight something like this...
Just a suggestion, but I think the intel community should have tabs on every single American who "travels" to anywhere like Iraq or Syria and has ANYTHING approaching Muslim/Jihad beliefs. Any Muslim who shows up at the southern border, we should have eyes on them 24/7 no matter what. Where theyre going, where they came from, etc. Better yet, we should just let everyone know, any Muslim immigrant trying to enter the US has to wear a GPS tracking watch/collar on their person at all times. If it is tampered with in any way they get smoked.
I would say lock the border down but then that would be way too Un-PC right?
Say hotshots, did you ever have any encounters with IS over in Syria? Are they in reality as tough as they like to think themselves to be?
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My Brother My Brother---I have never been in Syria. Only Haiti
ISIS is like stirring one drop of pee into a gallon of drinking water per day. After a week you don't notice a thing. After a month you gradually may see a small difference but you get used to it. But after 4 years you are drinking 90% piss. This is what is happening on our boarders.
One maybe Three a day. Soon the army is already here, split into cells of 4 maybe 10 per unit lining up for soft targets like schools to draw away protection from the harder targets. Then stall and retreat back to our food chain and drinking water. Then to shooting tracers at gas trucks. Our heads will be spinning in so many directions we will become unglued and vulnerable for quite a time. Once we sort that out they should have biological,chemical and dirty bombs in place and we start over.
The devil is already here.
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I think things get blamed on religion but these things start when no one is there to enforce some kind of law. Saddam had some control but he is gone. This place now is about people stealing shyt to gain power and no one stops them.
How did Saddam get control , Hmm ???
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Brother, its already her and has been for quite a while. Corrupt politicos and religion have been around for a long time. Up til recently there was room for it to hide, but the veil is being pulled away, and the snake exposed. We are just now realizing it, as the rooster comes home to rest.
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You and I are on the same page. I am locked and stocked. When it gets closer to my neighborhood I hunt'n wabbit!
We in this country have a fast food mentality. We want it now and if we don't get it now, we lose interest and grow tired of dealing with it. It would take 2 generations of peace, by peace, I mean armed troops that smash down any trouble and allow the people to get educated and see that they have been brainwashed since birth. Experience being able to walk around freely and speak freely and own a small business and be healthy and not have to live like an animal. Then they want to keep that and maybe resist. Unless they can see that, they need the asshole dictators like Saddam. Or total destruction back to the stone age. At this point it is the only thing they understand.
I think that is why a lot of police departments are getting MRAP's. If there is widespread terror attacks here, niceness will be a thing of the past.
The time is NOW to form alliances with other like minded citizens.
Honestly I am more upset about the beheadings of christian children, then of some reporter.
Time to dust off the nukes and turn sand into glass.
We're all children from the same Father, the only difference being that a grown man will have experienced more. Surely the slaughter of innocents is unpardonable no matter what it is to which one ascribes.
that WOULD send a message..................
and then there's this: Missing Libyan jetliners raise fears of terror attacks on 9/11 - Washington Times
Use the nukes, and then air drop people infected with Ebola to check for any signs of life...and then develop a strain of aids that can carried by donkeys and camels.
Gents, there are 20-25million vets in this country, outnumbering the current government armed departments and agencies by many factors, probably better armed with individual weapons too, they will not be restrained by ROE's. Any attempted invasion on any scale will be dealt within a day or two by Joe citizen.. Its the spectacular attacks you gotta watch, 9-11 style or worse. Our leadership and our culture has become infected with this multicultural, PC, America hating theme/story line for a long time, probably on purpose by fellow travelers to control the population. I don't fear an attack as much as I fear our leaderships response to it being too weak and our people not getting pissed enough to recognize whats at stake. Eventually with enough pain on our country they will get pissed and do what is needed to go back to watching dancing with the Stars, I just hope that realization happens before its too late.
Keep in mind that most of these reporters are over there to get subject matter in support of the " Religion of Peace" party line in support of the story line that America is bad and the cause of all the ills in the world, I dont feel bad for them at all.
Keep in mind that most of these reporters are over there to get subject matter in support of the " Religion of Peace" party line in support of the story line that America is bad and the cause of all the ills in the world, I dont feel bad for them at all.
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Everybody pretty much slaughters the innocents either on purpose, or because they happened to be in the way.
Usually the "bad" guys do it on purpose and the "good" guys do it because they were in the way ... most of the time.
Then everybody whines about all the innocents the other guys slaughtered.
Sucks to be one of the innocents... might as well grab a gun...
I tried to imagine ISIS rolling north across the border...with all the gun nuts in Texas??? "Hold my beer and watch this. "
Your right, and looks like they may be trying to cook up a spectacular for next week.
