SW Airlines lost my rifle!

Lkwoolsey

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Flown with firearms loads of times, this is the first time they've ever lost my firearms. Anyone else had this experience? I was already pissed since every flight to and from Atlanta was delayed, in one case I had to get a hotel and catch a flight the next day. Then to tip it all off on my last flight, home, they lost my rifle! Needless to say, I'm pretty aggravated. Anyone that has had this happen, did you always get it back? If not, do they just take my word for what was in the case? I definitly dont have receipts for those transactions anymore. I'm hoping that they'll find it and get it to me but I'm planning for the worst case scenario.
 
It's happened to me (quite a few years ago). They delivered it to my house the next day.

With today's increased tracking, I'd have a hard time believing that they can't at least track down a long rifle case.
 
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My shooting partner and I flew to a match just fine. On the way home we had one layover. Neither of our rifles made it on the plane. To be fair, there was also a ton of other people luggage that wasn’t on there. Both of us were less then pleased about it. The rifles made it on the next flight that night and they delivered it to my house that night.
 
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What usually happens is you get in delayed and your plane is about to take off. Have to run across the whole airport to make it. Luggage doesn't make it as fast. It's rare my luggage rides on the same plane anymore. Haven't flown in a while but when I did I almost never got my shit until later that day or the next day. Chances are it's in the process of going around the country, being loaded on different planes until one makes it here.

I'd sure as shit stay on top of it. When they found mine, I had to go pick it up at the airport.

A GPS tag is a good idea. There is a brilliant anti theft product, it uses RFID tags and when it gets within proximity of a computer, phone, etc., it will upload it's location. IF it has the application installed! Most just don't. Checks in Constantly, as long as it's in range of a computer or phone. Now if we could get it so the phones came with that pre-installed across the board, it would likely put an end to theft in the US, or at least heavily cripple it. Imagine hundreds of YOUR RFID's hidden in everything you own. Makes theft nearly impossible. The GPS tags work and do the same thing basically but they're larger and harder to hide. More expensive too. The RFID tags will fit damn near anywhere and get activated by coming in range of a phone or computer. But a GPS tag in a locked case, better yet a JB welded GPS tag in a strong locked case, would end this issue for you in the future and make it easier to find.
 
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A multitude of years ago a good friend flew back from an east coast family visit. After waiting at the baggage carousel until nothing more came out he made his way to the lost luggage office and reported his bag missing. Showed his claim tickets, an "energetic" employee left, returned 5 minutes later and told him the bag was not in the airport and had probably not made a connection, when it arrived he would be notified and arrangements would be made to get it to him.

Jim interjected that home was still a 4 hr drive from the airport and he hoped nothing would be damaged including the three declared handguns in the lost bag. He said all eyes got really big and three energetic employees hurriedly left the room for another look.

10 minutes later he left with his bag in hand.

Thank you,
MrSmith
 
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I had a rifle not follow me on a Delta flight through ATL a couple decades ago. Really pissed me off because they then delivered it to my barracks, of course the coddling commands expected us to clean the shit out of a M60 or 249 in the barracks but the horror of me having my M1 Garand there... Mine didn't follow me because I took a voluntary bump to a later flight for cash that was nearly a whole paycheck for me, but my rifle didn't make the baggage cut for some reason. The last bag of mine that didn't follow me was because of a connection overseas between two different airlines, those Swiss aren't as efficient as they would like us to believe.

The best ways to ensure your baggage goes with you:
  • Have no connection be under an hour, longer this time of year where weather delays are common.
  • Stick to one airline and if you change carriers, ticket them separate if you're concerned about what's in your bag.
  • Clear check-in at least two hours before your flight, that means be at the airport three hours prior at a minimum.
  • Fly big carriers, never the budget options if possible. SW marginally makes this cut in my book. I would never fly Frontier or Spirit (wouldn't fly them ever anyhow) with checked baggage as their ground staff are as cut rate as their seating. Alaska is decent, I never use JetBlue because they always try to route me through JFK and I despise that airport.
  • To add to the above, never, ever, ever fly with firearms through NYC (JFK or LGA). Ever.
  • Always be on their frequent flyer system, even if you rarely fly, as this gets you a tick better treatment at a minimum. While I almost exclusively use United over the last decade plus of working away from home, I still have an account with pretty much every airline.
  • Drive whenever possible, this is my solution whenever going with firearms.
  • Above all, be VERY nice to the desk staff on all ends. Your baggage problem is never that specific person's fault, but getting it to you can very easily be their doing because they went above and beyond. They're underpaid and disrespected regularly, a smile and small talk goes a long way to making them want to help you get your bag back fast versus you getting your bag at the tail end of them almost getting written up for it.
I fly every week to and from work, so I have a good bit of experience with this. As for GPS trackers, remember they don't work indoors and you're never going to walk to it yourself in the first place anyhow.
 
Flown with firearms loads of times, this is the first time they've ever lost my firearms. Anyone else had this experience? I was already pissed since every flight to and from Atlanta was delayed, in one case I had to get a hotel and catch a flight the next day. Then to tip it all off on my last flight, home, they lost my rifle! Needless to say, I'm pretty aggravated. Anyone that has had this happen, did you always get it back? If not, do they just take my word for what was in the case? I definitly dont have receipts for those transactions anymore. I'm hoping that they'll find it and get it to me but I'm planning for the worst case scenario.

United lost my luggage (including my pistol) on my flight to Alaska. I got it back 2 days later (delivered to the hotel), and they reimbursed me for the stick of deodorant and dressy shirt and pants I bought for the dinner the night I arrived.

What sucks is that they thought originally that it wasn't put on the plane, but it ACTUALLY was sitting in the airport the whole time. They just couldn't find it.
 
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I had a rifle not follow me on a Delta flight through ATL a couple decades ago. Really pissed me off because they then delivered it to my barracks, of course the coddling commands expected us to clean the shit out of a M60 or 249 in the barracks but the horror of me having my M1 Garand there... Mine didn't follow me because I took a voluntary bump to a later flight for cash that was nearly a whole paycheck for me, but my rifle didn't make the baggage cut for some reason. The last bag of mine that didn't follow me was because of a connection overseas between two different airlines, those Swiss aren't as efficient as they would like us to believe.

The best ways to ensure your baggage goes with you:
  • Have no connection be under an hour, longer this time of year where weather delays are common.
  • Stick to one airline and if you change carriers, ticket them separate if you're concerned about what's in your bag.
  • Clear check-in at least two hours before your flight, that means be at the airport three hours prior at a minimum.
  • Fly big carriers, never the budget options if possible. SW marginally makes this cut in my book. I would never fly Frontier or Spirit (wouldn't fly them ever anyhow) with checked baggage as their ground staff are as cut rate as their seating. Alaska is decent, I never use JetBlue because they always try to route me through JFK and I despise that airport.
  • To add to the above, never, ever, ever fly with firearms through NYC (JFK or LGA). Ever.
  • Always be on their frequent flyer system, even if you rarely fly, as this gets you a tick better treatment at a minimum. While I almost exclusively use United over the last decade plus of working away from home, I still have an account with pretty much every airline.
  • Drive whenever possible, this is my solution whenever going with firearms.
  • Above all, be VERY nice to the desk staff on all ends. Your baggage problem is never that specific person's fault, but getting it to you can very easily be their doing because they went above and beyond. They're underpaid and disrespected regularly, a smile and small talk goes a long way to making them want to help you get your bag back fast versus you getting your bag at the tail end of them almost getting written up for it.
I fly every week to and from work, so I have a good bit of experience with this. As for GPS trackers, remember they don't work indoors and you're never going to walk to it yourself in the first place anyhow.

This advice is gold
 
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I had a rifle not follow me on a Delta flight through ATL a couple decades ago. Really pissed me off because they then delivered it to my barracks, of course the coddling commands expected us to clean the shit out of a M60 or 249 in the barracks but the horror of me having my M1 Garand there... Mine didn't follow me because I took a voluntary bump to a later flight for cash that was nearly a whole paycheck for me, but my rifle didn't make the baggage cut for some reason. The last bag of mine that didn't follow me was because of a connection overseas between two different airlines, those Swiss aren't as efficient as they would like us to believe.

The best ways to ensure your baggage goes with you:
  • Have no connection be under an hour, longer this time of year where weather delays are common.
  • Stick to one airline and if you change carriers, ticket them separate if you're concerned about what's in your bag.
  • Clear check-in at least two hours before your flight, that means be at the airport three hours prior at a minimum.
  • Fly big carriers, never the budget options if possible. SW marginally makes this cut in my book. I would never fly Frontier or Spirit (wouldn't fly them ever anyhow) with checked baggage as their ground staff are as cut rate as their seating. Alaska is decent, I never use JetBlue because they always try to route me through JFK and I despise that airport.
  • To add to the above, never, ever, ever fly with firearms through NYC (JFK or LGA). Ever.
  • Always be on their frequent flyer system, even if you rarely fly, as this gets you a tick better treatment at a minimum. While I almost exclusively use United over the last decade plus of working away from home, I still have an account with pretty much every airline.
  • Drive whenever possible, this is my solution whenever going with firearms.
  • Above all, be VERY nice to the desk staff on all ends. Your baggage problem is never that specific person's fault, but getting it to you can very easily be their doing because they went above and beyond. They're underpaid and disrespected regularly, a smile and small talk goes a long way to making them want to help you get your bag back fast versus you getting your bag at the tail end of them almost getting written up for it.
I fly every week to and from work, so I have a good bit of experience with this. As for GPS trackers, remember they don't work indoors and you're never going to walk to it yourself in the first place anyhow.

Whats funny is I have followed almost all of this, especially with this flight, and any I'm taking firearms on. That said, Murphy's law will always prevail I suppose. I really appreciate the advice!
Good news is, I just got a call and my rifle showed up this morning!
 
Whats funny is I have followed almost all of this, especially with this flight, and any I'm taking firearms on. That said, Murphy's law will always prevail I suppose. I really appreciate the advice!
Good news is, I just got a call and my rifle showed up this morning!
Yeah, Murphy is a real asshole this time of year, even for those who do their damndest to plan accordingly. I'm dreading flying back to work on the 27th and back home again on the 30th, two bitch of days to fly. At least 95% of my flights lately are carry-on only, and I really don't give a shit if I miss a connection since I travel on the clock and never turn up my nose to a few extra hours of overtime anyhow. Them making me late can often result in my 6'3" ass sitting in first class on the next flight too, so they can feel free to take their time deicing the plane.
 
For anyone travelling with firearms, be sure you declare the value when checking in and ask them what insurance coverage is provided. For some items, they are only obligated to pay a miniscule amount based on weight of the luggage piece. You'll want to ask explicitly when checking in to see if you're covered or have to pay for insurance.
 
Yeah, Murphy is a real asshole this time of year, even for those who do their damndest to plan accordingly. I'm dreading flying back to work on the 27th and back home again on the 30th, two bitch of days to fly. At least 95% of my flights lately are carry-on only, and I really don't give a shit if I miss a connection since I travel on the clock and never turn up my nose to a few extra hours of overtime anyhow. Them making me late can often result in my 6'3" ass sitting in first class on the next flight too, so they can feel free to take their time deicing the plane.

Haha, yeah, I don't every mind when I'm flying with work. And hey, they ended up giving me over 1k worth of travel vouchers, so as long as I'm not flying with a firearm, I'll fly pretty much free next time! I won't ever use them again if I fly with a rifle though, thats for sure.
 
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[QUOTE="Redmanss,To add to the above, never, ever, ever fly with firearms through NYC (JFK or LGA). Ever.

Please add Newark New Jersey to that list.

Maxwell[/QUOTE]
Wasn’t aware they were as bad as NYC. I just know JFK will hand you over to police in a heartbeat if you take a forced layover with a handgun in your checked baggage. Fuck that place.

I avoid EWR most of the time as well, usually going through IAD instead when I’m on the east coast or headed internationally, which is now very rare for me.
 
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Make sure to understand the insurance I’m checked luggage

If you are ever diverted or flight canceled, do not take possession of the gun unless you are 100% sure the gun, mag and all components are legal in that state
 
Flown with firearms loads of times, this is the first time they've ever lost my firearms. Anyone else had this experience? I was already pissed since every flight to and from Atlanta was delayed, in one case I had to get a hotel and catch a flight the next day. Then to tip it all off on my last flight, home, they lost my rifle! Needless to say, I'm pretty aggravated. Anyone that has had this happen, did you always get it back? If not, do they just take my word for what was in the case? I definitly dont have receipts for those transactions anymore. I'm hoping that they'll find it and get it to me but I'm planning for the worst case scenario.

So... What's going on? They recover you rifle yet? It's been enough time for them to at least give you some information on it.
 
Yep, got it back Friday afternoon. They said there were too many checked bags on my flight so they put it on a different flight. Great excuse.
That is probably exactly what happened. Unfortunately, the dim bulbs picked the baggage that was a declared firearm, as opposed to granny's second and third suitcases full of Depends.
 
A friend of mine checked his pistol, a 1911, with the airline when he flew to Minnesota several years ago. The airline lost the luggage that the pistol was in.

When he filed the claim with the lady at the baggage claim desk she asked what kind of pistol it was. He replied that it was a "government model .45"

When he told her that, her eyes got real big. The airline moved heaven and earth to get the pistol back for the "government" agent. My friend has never worked for the government, isn't an agent or a cop. He is a salesman. The lady at the baggage claim desk and everyone else, assumed that my friend was a government agent.

He kept his mouth shut and let them find his pistol as fast a crap through a goose.
 
With today's increased tracking, I'd have a hard time believing that they can't at least track down a long rifle case.

Southwest does not scan bags so there is technically no tracking. As for the load factor of sticking bags on other flights, I’d believe it. Depending on many factors, distance and fuel usually, weather at departure airport and en route, and how many fruit cakes people check to take to family, they may very well be over loaded.

Or it could simply be some of these millennials they hire can’t read a three letter airport code, put the bag in the wrong cart at the transfer city or one I personally know of, the bag was about the size of a .50 cal can and was hiding under a tarp that covers the cart and was found about an hour later.