I was feeding a joke more than anything. I have indeed seen some fat vegans.[/QUOTE
McDonalds vegan????
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Join contest SubscribeI was feeding a joke more than anything. I have indeed seen some fat vegans.[/QUOTE
McDonalds vegan????
Dunno where this pic was taken but it looks like Frank is having a Mate tea.
Saw Judas Preist back in 84' or 85'. 2nd concert I'd ever seen w/ Van Halen being first.
I know more fat vegetarians than skinny. Sugar is vegetarian. Potato chips are vegetarian. Most candy is vegetarian. They rarely opt for the healthy option because they're just following a fad their peers are also blindly following.
Sugar is the cause of many disease processes, not fat, not cholesterol, not sodium.
Dunno where this pic was taken but it looks like Frank is having a Mate tea.
If so that may be a tell to location.
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You have done your homework. There is a documentary on netflix about sugar; I think it was called Fed Up. There was also some bullshit documentary on there that implicated fat as the cause of diabetes. The model they were showing was absolutely laughable. I forgot the name of this one.This was found in the 70s and the sugar industry immediately began a counter campaign that falsely contributed fat to heart disease and not sugar which had been shown to be linked closely to heart disease. The rest is history as they say.
You NEED fats. Lots of them. Especially those still found on the meat you're eating. it's unadulterated and is the taste portion of meat. The biggest mistake people make when buying meat is buying lower fat content. You want at least 80:20 ground beef and the most marbled steaks you can find in the case. Your brain, especially when growing, thrives on fats. You don't eat fat and the your body converts it into fat again. That's impossible and like saying gas comes out the tailpipe after combustion. Sugar is converted to fats. Immediately regardless of source. Oranges or straight refined sugar. Doesn't really matter how refined or not it is either. IOW, high fructose corn syrup has the same effect as the sugar in your apple. The only difference is the sugar in the fruit has an opportunity to get further digested and delayed than pure sugar.
Next time you're at the grocery store pick up a pack of pig bacon and turkey bacon and compare. Make sure you're not getting a lower weight and/or serving size on the turkey bacon to falsely make the turkey bacon "more healthy". It has a minor amount less of fat than pork bacon. Not enough to consider and as I stated before, fat is actually good for you and NEEDED.
While you're at it, compare 12 ounces of OJ to 12 ounces of Coca-Cola. Remember, it's the sugar that's killing you slowly.
You have done your homework. There is a documentary on netflix about sugar; I think it was called Fed Up. There was also some bullshit documentary on there that implicated fat as the cause of diabetes. The model they were showing was absolutely laughable. I forgot the name of this one.
A few years ago, I did a search for studies linking sodium with hypertension. I found that a diet high in sodium as opposed to low sodium had a mean difference in BP of about 5 mmHg. However, glucose has been shown to be pro inflammatory and an oxidant, and a large contributor to cardiovascular disease. Conventional thinking is wrong.
Not only 'vegans' (Vagans?) but I'm sure they avoid gluten like it was the plague. I'm even more sure that they don't know what aisle in the store the gluten is sitting, and I'm even more sure that these idiots don't know whether gluten is packaged in a bag, can, or bulk. But they demand no gluten, cause it's fashionably bad.Well, they are all likely vegans, which leads to malnourishment in some cases, and stunted growth
Celiac disease is indeed real, but this anti gluten movement is fucking stupid. Through the power of suggestion, people report anecdotal evidence of feeling miraculously better since they stopped eating gluten. If you’re gonna cut shit out of your diet, start with anything greater than 10 grams of sugar per servingNot only 'vegans' (Vagans?) but I'm sure they avoid gluten like it was the plague. I'm even more sure that they don't know what aisle in the store the gluten is sitting, and I'm even more sure that these idiots don't know whether gluten is packaged in a bag, can, or bulk. But they demand no gluten, cause it's fashionably bad.
Where are you getting pastrami?I fukin love gluten and fat.
The best thing in the universe is a pastrami on white with mustard and onions.....
Shit... now I know what I’m getting for lunch.....
The only diets I have seen that changes people dramatically is paleo or atkins. Plenty of meat and fat in these, although paleo does avoid gluten. However, that is a small part of the diet and likely is not a major contributor to the effects. The crux of both diets is avoiding sugar and minimizing manufactured carb intake. Avoid artificial sweeteners too, like aspartame, saccharin, sucralose, maltodextrin, etc because they cause a neurohormonal reaction and a reflex release of insulin, which has actually been shown to be more extreme than a pure chemical response to glucose. Oddly, stevia is somehow devoid of this effect from what I have read. But if you are a DM2, you have nothing to lose by consuming artificial sweeteners
I fukin love gluten and fat.
The best thing in the universe is a pastrami on white with mustard and onions.....
Shit... now I know what I’m getting for lunch.....
I can't say that I think it's a bad thing, but you have to consider the feasibility. Cost and continual access to fresh produce, as well as knowing where any deficiencies are and filling the gaps. For example, the most obvious one is B12, which is only found in meat, as is cholesterol. If you have the ability and patience to follow a regimen like that, I say go for it. I'll ask my sister next time I talk to her because she is the dietician; I'm just from an allopathic education and we learn everything about nutrition in literally about 5 hours of educationWhat is your opinion of the plant based diet?
Speaking of documentaries...I highly recommend "Cooked" on Netflix. Some good info and history....but then again, I like a lot of Pollan's writings on the modern day diet...You have done your homework. There is a documentary on netflix about sugar; I think it was called Fed Up. There was also some bullshit documentary on there that implicated fat as the cause of diabetes. The model they were showing was absolutely laughable. I forgot the name of this one.
A few years ago, I did a search for studies linking sodium with hypertension. I found that a diet high in sodium as opposed to low sodium had a mean difference in BP of about 5 mmHg. However, glucose has been shown to be pro inflammatory and an oxidant, and a large contributor to cardiovascular disease. Conventional thinking is wrong.
Where are you getting pastrami?
Silvermine subs. Just had one.... it was beautiful.... I cried.
Hahaha. What state are you in again?Silvermine subs. Just had one.... it was beautiful.... I cried.