Tikka durability question

[Stevo86]

Tikka's are junk. So much so that they were selected amongst their peers to be used in the harshest conditions known to man.

Colt Canada C19 - Wikipedia

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I was drunk in Miami airport and ordered one of those. I think there are a couple differences in the actual C19 and the tikka civilian version. None the less… a cool rifle. I’ve never even shot it tho.

 

[Beardown]

PR Precision up around Spruce Grove AB makes Tikka bolt bodies.
https://www.prprecision.com

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Obviously this takes some work, some digging to find out CEO names and addresses, ATF stolen-firearms address, AG address, some research on how to properly format a biz letter (if you don’t know how already). It’s a pain to go to the post office and pay for signature-required service.

But man-o-man did stuff start happening for me. Changed their tune real quick.



And no calling. All paper letters.

I appreciate the advice, and I'm certain that it is the way to get maximum weight behind the situation, but at this point, I've dedicated all of the effort I'm willing to as it relates to a $479 rifle. I've left the idea of ever receiving satisfaction from Beretta USA in the past. I probably repeat this story 4 times a year on snipers hide. If one person a year reads my story and decides to avoid the customer service nightmare that they are, then I will have cost them exponentially more money than the $479 they stole from me. They will never feel it, but I know it's happening. It may be small, but it's honest work.

 

[spife7980]

I appreciate the input. This next build is a project gun and I'm just trying to gauge the quality of the receiver and any potential issues I may run into since I've never owned one before. I'm not building a PRS rifle. I'm open to considering other options. This thread is strictly about the Tikka.

While the tikka isnt a bad proposition, far from the worst, Ive just never felt one myself and gone "dang thats nicer than ____."

An origin or an arc action are appreciably nice and, though its been a couple years, all of them were in the 800 range with sales etc, now probably less than 1k in bidens usa, which is not appreciably more than buying a tikka just to then part it out.

And while Im not familiar with it in the first person the aero solus can be had on some seriously tempting deals Ive seen lately, like in the sub 600s. Im not a fan of the short bolt lifts but if you dont mind a three lug it may be a great choice.

 

[carbonbased]

Hundreds of phone calls, emails to everyone in the corporate structure with an email address, I've mailed letters, filed a complaint with the BBB, and on and on. When I call they put me on hold and never pick up the phone again.

Yeah. That stuff won’t work.

You need letters with proof of arrival and the power of the state AG and ATF behind you.

The tone you are going for is of a fine upstanding citizen that has been taken advantage of. Not of a slobbering sweary drunken sailor that is incoherent. TYPE THE LETTER. NO HANDWRITING. Spellcheck.

I hope you haven’t threatened them or are full of shit. And DO NOT say you’ve contacted the ATF or AG without actually doing so.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

No, which one of the service centers is keeping your rifle.

I would do what @carbonbased has suggested, unless you've already done exactly that. And maybe get a lawyer involved.

It was shipped to an address in Maryland if my memory serves. I don't have the address in front of me currently.

I've talked to two lawyers, and they don't want to touch it. Unless I'm willing to lie and say that I was injured in the explosion, then they don't want to fool with it.

 

[carbonbased]

I've dedicated all of the effort I'm willing to as it relates to a $479 rifle. I've left the idea of ever receiving satisfaction from Beretta USA in the past. I probably repeat this story 4 times a year on snipers hide.

Then at least provide proof to us that it happened? Pics of the destroyed rifle? Screenshots of emails? I assume you’re not a total idiot (sorry, a little harsh) sloppy and kept the shipping receipt?

 

[308pirate]

It was shipped to an address in Maryland if my memory serves. I don't have the address in front of me currently.

I've talked to two lawyers, and they don't want to touch it. Unless I'm willing to lie and say that I was injured in the explosion, then they don't want to fool with it.

Find a Service Center

www.beretta.com

The Maryland address is Beretta USA itself. Not one of their service centers.

Not that it helps you but I figured I clear that up.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Then at least provide proof to us that it happened? Pics of the destroyed rifle? Screenshots of emails? I assume you’re not a total idiot and kept the shipping receipt?

I've done this probably 4 times here over the last few years. I have a copy of the shipping label at home in my gun closet. I'll find the pictures again to share.

 

[carbonbased]

I've done this probably 4 times here over the last few years. I have a copy of the shipping label at home in my gun closet. I'll find the pictures again to share.

Ok. But are you saying you’ve already posted photos of gun/emails/shipping label?

If so, just post a link.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

It will take longer to find the post on sniper's hide than to find the pictures. I am not digging through my emails to find all of the shit I sent them years ago. You sound dangerously close to questioning my integrity. Don't do that. You don't know me, but you'd be an idiot to assume I'm lying about anything. Here is the rifle post explosion.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

This is the current status on the beretta USA repair status portal.

 

[Baron23]

Yeah, Accokeek is Beretta USA. I live in the socialist state of Maryland and I wouldn’t leave my kitchen garbage with them. Not sure I know anybody who had any sort of success with those assholes.

Shotguns is Cole for me.

No idea who services rifles for them.

 

[carbonbased]

It will take longer to find the post on sniper's hide than to find the pictures. I am not digging through my emails to find all of the shit I sent them years ago. You sound dangerously close to questioning my integrity. Don't do that. You don't know me, but you'd be an idiot to assume I'm lying about anything. Here is the rifle post explosion.

Ok chief, calm down. You’ve got some of the evidence on display. Load up that shipping receipt and maybe some emails and now you can just link to that post vs. repeating yourself.

Just think of the time you’d save!

Looks like you did get some injuries, however superficial (good).

They’re probably holding onto the gun to avoid liability, if I had to guess.

Totally inexplicable why you’d waste your time complaining to anonymous strangers when you could pretty easily crush Beretta. With just the time wasted on me you could’ve found the addresses and crafted all the letters you need.

I mean, who cares if it’s only a $500 rifle, it has (understandably) made you awfully mad. You’ve admitted to posting the same thing over and over again. You’re worked up and I’ll bet you think about it more than you like. Keeping that crap inside is not good for you.

After getting the proper people involved, then you could brag to anonymous strangers how you slapped Beretta around.

Wouldn’t that be more fun?

 

[NewsShooter]

You literally have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Get the Tikka jizz off your chin. Their customer service is absolutely trash, no debate from anyone who's had any real experience dealing with them. And guess what fan boy, I don't give a shit if you suck Beretta phallus for the world to see, when I see an opportunity to pass my story on to someone who can avoid the same bullshit I dealt with, I'll tell the story again. I hope you read it a thousand times.

Wait, why don't you do me a favor?

You seem to believe that something I've said isn't true. I've shared the pictures of this rifle on SH several times with the serial number exposed. Hell, I'll do it again. Why don't you call them and ask them why they stole my fucking rifle and refuse to return it. Ask them why after almost 4 years, they have never contacted me once. Never responded to an email, a phone call, a formal complaint, etc. You ask them.. or....

Shut the fuck up. You won't call them for me, I'm certain of that, so just do the latter. Shut your brand loyal mouth about shit you don't know anything about. Fucking bootlicker.

Sensitive aren't you. . What do you expect when you jump in every Tikka thread to bash them. I'd guess if it happened to me I'd take them to court and get something done about it.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

While the tikka isnt a bad proposition, far from the worst, Ive just never felt one myself and gone "dang thats nicer than ____."

An origin or an arc action are appreciably nice and, though its been a couple years, all of them were in the 800 range with sales etc, now probably less than 1k in bidens usa, which is not appreciably more than buying a tikka just to then part it out.

And while Im not familiar with it in the first person the aero solus can be had on some seriously tempting deals Ive seen lately, like in the sub 600s. Im not a fan of the short bolt lifts but if you dont mind a three lug it may be a great choice.

Its the nicest factory offering, especially under 2K price point. An origin or Ted's beta test action of the month cost more than a whole tikka rifle, not a dair comparison.

The solus is nothing to write home about. Lets just say I got the info from the PNW source(s), and I would not be investing in one until they make some fixes/changes/updates.

For a hunting rifle, you cannot beat tikka. For a long range blaster or fun gun, they are OK. For a PRS gun, i would look elsewhere.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Yeah, Accokeek is Beretta USA. I live in the socialist state of Maryland and I wouldn’t leave my kitchen garbage with them. Not sure I know anybody who had any sort of success with those assholes.

Shotguns is Cole for me.

No idea who services rifles for them.

Beretta relocated most of their shit to Tennessee. Beretta customer service is absolute shit.

Thankfully we have Cole/JEG/a few others for shotguns. Tikka parts can be had from MGW, JAG and a few others. Easier to just buy the parts you need from ebay/gunbroker.

There are a few models of the tikka I would advise against, due to horrible design (TACA1), but for a run of the mill hunting gun, they are hard to beat and stupid easy to work on. (assuming you dont bend the action like i did).

 

[Baron23]

Beretta relocated most of their shit to Tennessee.

Yeah...I sort of remember that. I kinda/sorta remember it had to do with not being able to assemble certain guns due to draconia fucking leftist laws/politics in Maryland. Ah, found this:

The company's history in Maryland goes back to the late 1970s.​

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In the decades since then, Beretta has clashed periodically with state officials. In 2013, in response to the Newtown, Conn., school shootings, then Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley led a clampdown on ownership of high-powered weaponry.​

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Some proposals would have made it illegal for Beretta to import some of its own products — even for sale to the military, Reh says. The exceptions the company managed to get written into the law were not enough.​

And you may agree with me that O'Malley is a cock sucker and I was thrilled when that little shithead couldn't even cut in in Dimwit primaries for the Presidency.

a few models of the tikka I would advise against, due to horrible design (TACA1)

Never shot a TAC A1. What is horrible about them. A good friend had one, he sold it (he has lots of very high end rifles) but I never heard him talk badly about the platform?

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

NSW is down there at Indian Head and APG being small arms center of DOD, It made sense for them to be located in Maryland, which is also not too far from the Pentagon.
O'Malley was a cocksucker of the first degree. Ehrlich was my boy!

Problem with the A1 is the design of the chassis. In order to get the barrel nut off so you can replace the barrel, there is a fastner right next to the barrel that is super easy to strip. Its almost impossible to drill so you have to dremel/destroy half the chassis to get the barreled action out. They use a shitty AR type handguard on there, along with a full rail that makes you run a super high mount to get any kind of cant. There are QD cups right where your hand goes, which makes zeo sense, and would be even more intrusive with a sling attached. The fastners they use are dogshit and strip out super easy. It was and is a horrible chassis all the way around. Most people dont shoot enough to know since they never shoot out the barrel and need to replace it. Makes the gun almost disposible.

 

[chevy_man]

Start here, problem solved ...

SOTIC Long Range Rifle – Kinetic Research Group

kineticresearchgroup.com

 

[TheJeanyus]

Never shot a TAC A1. What is horrible about them. A good friend had one, he sold it (he has lots of very high end rifles) but I never heard him talk badly about the platform?

As a Tac A1 owner - it's a nice rifle, but the chassis design isn't great. The AR-style handguard with the full length top rail means you have to use a super high mount. The sling attachment points aren't ideal (like the rear HK hook attachment that gets in the way of the rear QD socket that everyone is way more likely to use). I haven't had any issues with stripping out fasteners nor removing/installing the barreled action from it myself, and I've had it apart several times. At the end of the day as nice as my Tac A1 shoots I wish I had just bought a CTR and put it into an aftermarket chassis from the beginning.

 

[viking78]

The recoil lug is not where the weak point is on a Tikka.

The bolt handle breaking off because of a failure at the dovetail in the bolt body is one potential concern.

Another is a failure of the bolt stop pin.

I have had 5 T3 Tikka, none of those i have never had broken bolt handle, or even heard of that some one has broke the bolt stop.
The one that i had as a factory T3X CTR, i i did shoot with the factory .260rem barrel well over 7000 rounds.
Now it is rebarrelled, and it just keep going.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Ok chief, calm down. You’ve got some of the evidence on display. Load up that shipping receipt and maybe some emails and now you can just link to that post vs. repeating yourself.

Just think of the time you’d save!

Looks like you did get some injuries, however superficial (good).

They’re probably holding onto the gun to avoid liability, if I had to guess.

Totally inexplicable why you’d waste your time complaining to anonymous strangers when you could pretty easily crush Beretta. With just the time wasted on me you could’ve found the addresses and crafted all the letters you need.

I mean, who cares if it’s only a $500 rifle, it has (understandably) made you awfully mad. You’ve admitted to posting the same thing over and over again. You’re worked up and I’ll bet you think about it more than you like. Keeping that crap inside is not good for you.

After getting the proper people involved, then you could brag to anonymous strangers how you slapped Beretta around.

Wouldn’t that be more fun?

While I generally think the guy is an idiot, I see no reason to doubt him here unless you’re just deep throating tikkas dick and if that’s the case it doesn’t matter what he posts, it’s not going to appease you because you don’t want to agree with it.

You can clearly see from the pics the SN and damage and you can see the screenshot of berettas site showing a non repaired status. It’s a rimfire too for fucks sake so it’s not like he was shooting his own loaded ammo.

Beretta fucked him plain and simple all over a cheap ass gun that probably wouldn’t cost more than $200 for them to replace, as they should.

 

[BCP]

It will take longer to find the post on sniper's hide than to find the pictures. I am not digging through my emails to find all of the shit I sent them years ago. You sound dangerously close to questioning my integrity. Don't do that. You don't know me, but you'd be an idiot to assume I'm lying about anything. Here is the rifle post explosion.

Is that 17hmr?? I've seen a savage blow up similarly it was a case head leak/separation and all the gases blew out through the mag. It was definitely in battery too. No idea how it actually happened I thought maybe double charged round.

 

[Clearlight]

I’ve seen a heap of split necks in 17 hmr ammo at my local range. Different brands of ammo, and rifles, wondering if there is a spec variance in chamber size and some ammo, or just shitty brass?

 

[YotaEer]

I had a Tikka break a firing pin. I contacted Beretta CS via the online portal. Had a text chat with someone for about 3 minutes and had a new firing assembly to my door a few days later. It was even in a chassis and had an aftermarket scope mount.
Just one mans personal experience.

I had a similar experience with a broken firing pin on a T1x. Found someone quickly and they got me a new pin assembly no problem.

It wasn’t vortex, but it was pretty good customer service.