BTW, the Capitol police have already said that they will not enforce the carry prohibition against the legislators. They are "above" the law.
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Just curious; would it be possible for the groups of people that know each other to do this?
Each person pairs off with another. Person A gives his or her sidearm to person B for safekeeping.
Person A goes into the capitol building to lobby their legislator. After they finish talking with their legislator, they go back outside to Person B and retrieve their sidearm.
Person B gives his or her sidearm to Person A for safekeeping. It is now Person B's turn to go inside to lobby their legislator.
This has the effect of complying with the law but able to be armed at least on the capitol grounds. At the same time, everyone will be able to see their legislator.
Obviously safe practices and professional gun handling would have to be observed.
Yes, I know it sounds like a crazy idea but I've never been accused of thinking inside of the box.
Each person pairs off with another. Person A gives his or her sidearm to person B for safekeeping.
Person A goes into the capitol building to lobby their legislator. After they finish talking with their legislator, they go back outside to Person B and retrieve their sidearm.
Person B gives his or her sidearm to Person A for safekeeping. It is now Person B's turn to go inside to lobby their legislator.
This has the effect of complying with the law but able to be armed at least on the capitol grounds. At the same time, everyone will be able to see their legislator.
Obviously safe practices and professional gun handling would have to be observed.
Yes, I know it sounds like a crazy idea but I've never been accused of thinking inside of the box.
How abouts fuckem and everybody show up full retard. AR's and all.
IMHO Virginians don't give a fuck anyway.
What kind of fucking retarded tyrant throws under the bus the people you want to use to enforce your decrees?
Fill this out guys, all who live in Va!
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OPPOSE SB 12, 22, 35, 69, 70, 240, 450, 505, 543, 615!
SB 12, 22, 35, 69, 70, 240, 450, 505, 543, 615 are all gun-control bills that affect Virginia's law-abiding gun owners, NOT criminals. Virginia's gun owners are tired of being the target of gun co...
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Just did vamike9 and and you beat me to posting the VCDL update lol
I appreciate that brother, the faster the better!
Here is the corrected link, apparently VCDL needed to fix it.
OPPOSE SB 12, 22, 35, 69, 70, 240, 450, 505, 543, 615!
SB 12, 22, 35, 69, 70, 240, 450, 505, 543, 615 are all gun-control bills that affect Virginia's law-abiding gun owners, NOT criminals. Virginia's gun owners are tired of being the target of gun co...
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That’s the only answer! They have to fear for they’re lives and they’re families lives! They have pushed it this far! Fuckem and do not comply! Win the battle!
This is not something to contain. This needs to spread like a wildfire east coast to west coast until all America (even California) is American again and the constitution is restored to its place as law of the land. The other side already took their gloves off and you want us to tie a hand behind our back?
Virginia is still a red State.....don't be scared of the left progressives...even if their perched above ...March on, and be proud to be a Virginian....if bullets fly (staged or provoked) do you want to be at home under a rock glad you avoided a stampede? This is about constitutional rights....you were born with them....think clearly, and don't let the fear of others infect you! We are in such large numbers they are scared...... legislators have taken the bribe, and now must perform their task....we were warned these days would arrive when real men signed that document in 1776....you must keep your focus on that......the whole country is watching us!! Let's show them that Patriotism is in our veins! We have been a silent majority for a long, long time.......we were busy working, paying taxes, raising our children, and being good productive citizens.....We have the moral high ground! To those of you in other states....it's coming for you....this mechanism in play is Globalism...... Constitutions always cockblocked the unionizing of countries....they have all been modified to interact with surrounding countries under the guise of trade interaction.....No, America is not going to be the same no matter the direction that sways.....embrace the rollercoaster ride of life, and stop worrying about your pension plans and dental coverage for a minute..... I also have lots to lose....we all do......but no one will suffer as much as our children.... because we won't be giving them an honerable example to reflect back on and say something like....."yeah, but my Dad was in Richmond on that day the Constitution died....right at the Capitol Hill. Where was your dad?"
Wonder why your WalMart is flipping you the bird on ammo and guns?
Remember to contact the Va Senate Judiciary committee.
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Yet wally has no issue selling alcohol to kill more people that all their guns/ammo ever did, plus all the wrong food that kills do to fat asses setting on a couch finger fucking their wally phones. Now that data = wally is a killer with the products they sell as good/safe shit?
2nd Amendment Sanctuary status going to court .
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'Second Amendment sanctuary' movement headed for Supreme Court: Laura Ingraham
Fox News host Laura Ingraham predicted that a growing "Second Amendment sanctuary" movement in the U.S. is destined for the U.S. Supreme Court, as gun-control advocates face-off against gun-rights supporters in the commonwealth of Virginia.
www.foxnews.com Don't contain the movement. Let it run free like a wildfire... Sometimes forests need to get burned down to grow even better. How's this any different?
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Today's docket on the Senate Judiciary Committee introducing 10 gun control bills.
If true what could be the hold up on sanctuary cities?...2nd Amendment Sanctuary status going to court .
'Second Amendment sanctuary' movement headed for Supreme Court: Laura Ingraham
Fox News host Laura Ingraham predicted that a growing "Second Amendment sanctuary" movement in the U.S. is destined for the U.S. Supreme Court, as gun-control advocates face-off against gun-rights supporters in the commonwealth of Virginia.
Has been years since those have been declared.
R
Laughing,...
www.breitbart.com
NRA Handing Out 30-Round Mags in VA to Fight Northam Gun Ban
The NRA will be handing out 1,000 30-round magazines in Richmond, Virginia, on Monday in the fight against Gov. Ralph Northam's gun grab.
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You guys need to handle this shit. It gives me a huge, sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Something to ponder:
I'd like to believe when the chips are all down and the time comes for LEO to take sides
our/your faith is justified.
I still can't help but think, who exactly is enforcing the anti-2nd laws already?
We all know the states.
I have these conversations with local LEO.
Strangely the "FOID" game/card is just accepted as the rule.
A thinly veiled registration.
Time will tell.
R
I'd like to believe when the chips are all down and the time comes for LEO to take sides
our/your faith is justified.
I still can't help but think, who exactly is enforcing the anti-2nd laws already?
We all know the states.
I have these conversations with local LEO.
Strangely the "FOID" game/card is just accepted as the rule.
A thinly veiled registration.
Time will tell.
R
Time will tell, but history is pretty unequivocal that people who wear uniforms, in general, will follow orders even when those orders completely offend their consciences and they know them to be immoral or wrong. We are social creatures who need to belong and we seek validation in our tribe and fear all others (however we define that). This is no small compulsion.
As illegal and/or immoral orders roll downhill from senior to subordinate they are assisted by the very attributes and traits we lionize and aspire towards in our LEOs/soldiers. Courage, duty, commitment, and honor are perverted into excuses to do that which we know to be wrong. Instead of supreme virtues those with power twist them into hollow excuses to become an agent of evil. Courage in the face of an enemy is probably a lot easier to muster than courage in the face of a superior whom you respect and whose orders you have sworn to follow. This is why basically good people have committed so many atrocities without protest. Happens over and over and it will happen again.
As illegal and/or immoral orders roll downhill from senior to subordinate they are assisted by the very attributes and traits we lionize and aspire towards in our LEOs/soldiers. Courage, duty, commitment, and honor are perverted into excuses to do that which we know to be wrong. Instead of supreme virtues those with power twist them into hollow excuses to become an agent of evil. Courage in the face of an enemy is probably a lot easier to muster than courage in the face of a superior whom you respect and whose orders you have sworn to follow. This is why basically good people have committed so many atrocities without protest. Happens over and over and it will happen again.
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My LE oath was to the Constitution first, then the state, then the municipality.
Just for what its worth.
My LE oath was to the Constitution first, then the state, then the municipality.
Just for what its worth.
"If you want to test a man's character, give him power" - Abe Lincoln
The SS were some of the best soldiers marching to the worst drum. Be prepared for the same happening again.
BTW: One of the VA 'democrats' who push hard for infringements on Constitutional rights, Dan Helmer, is a younger Army vet. Can someone find out what he did while serving?
Would not surprise me the least if he was among those who denied fire support to SF operations under heavy attack or put political correctness over operational readiness. There have been many in our armed forces who 'served' the enemy more than US.
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I pray it’s never tested, and if it is I pray for your strength and courage when the time comes to choose being true to your oath and becoming an outlaw, or following orders and maintaining your position.
Maybe specifically, but not true generally according to Von Manstein‘s book and a couple of others written after the war. He said they sucked because they were populated by fanatics who took dumb risks and sacrificed themselves needlessly. I don’t remember his exact words, but essentially he thought they were more trouble than they were worth because they had such high casualty rates and they soaked up so many replacement soldiers that would be more effective if placed in a normal Wehrmacht unit. You got to be SS and got more training not because you were better, but because you were the most fervent and maybe served as a child in “Hitler’s Boy Scouts”. Von Manstein was no hero, and was convicted of war crimes, but he was also not card carrying member of the Nazi Party.
The Death’s Head units are another story entirely. Given the choice I’d much rather fight a fanatic than a sober, professional soldier.
It’s always easier to find bad apples at the bottom of the barrel..
I'm not calling anyone a bad apple. I'm just stating facts and what history is pretty unequivocal about. As someone who has received their fair share of orders I am under no illusions that it's always black and white, cut and dry, or that very real virtues and very real duties do not ever come into conflict. They do. Monday morning it's easy to call the right play, and I'm not doing that. I'm just telling you that if the bet is between a man disobeying orders and following his conscience, or that he follows orders and disobeys his conscience, the first of those is a fools bet, because history is clear that it isn't a coin toss. Choosing to disobey orders is far more rare. I seem to remember also swearing to follow the orders of the officers duly appointed over me. So there is another conflict within the same oath...
I am the last guy to throw a rock I can assure you.
I am the last guy to throw a rock I can assure you.
Fuckin women! Commies! That’s where it all went to shit, when they started voting! Now pussy is running the country! They need to get back to making sandwiches and washing clothes!
Ouch. I don't know what kinda women you run around with but mine ride horses, dirt bikes and carry guns.
What I’m saying is a women thinks and reacts on emotion. They have things that they are better at than men! Making decisions for a man is not one of them. I have good wife! But she don’t lead in this household! I’m no better than her, but my job is leading and making the final decisions. Women that are trying to make unlawful gun laws cause their sceered. Fuck em!
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