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Zermatt Orgin 6.5CM light primer strikes??? ( pic heavy) *RESOLVED*

Hello, first I would like to say that I read the couple existing threads on light primer strikes and followed the advice that was on those threads. I wanted to post my issue as well as magdump some photos I took with this build.

I purchased a Zermatt Origin and a Proof 6.5 Creedmoor barrel prefit for the Origin. Action was put together and headspace was checked with go/ no go gauges. Go gauge closes and no go does not as normal. I paired this with a triggertech Primary trigger. Action was torqued to the recomended 85lt lbs using the zermatt action wrench.
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Today I went to the range to zero the rifle and test it with 4 different store bough ammo boxes ( hornady match, Norma match, federal 120g and Hornady black). I shot a total of 20 rounds, 15 of which had what seems to be light primer strikes. The 5 that did go off the primers looked slightly harder hit. None of the ammo had issues feeding, execting or signs of pressure excess or anything like that ( it was factory ammo). You can see the difference between the fired / non fired.

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I took some of the ammo and shot it out of my beraga B14 and it shot no problem, Thinking maybe the ammo might be bad.

I took the gun apart at home and checked headspace once more and go works, no go does not. I removed the trigger and re installed it. Took the bolt apart and cleaned ( no excess grease on the firing pin or anything ) I took some Hornady brass that I was reloading and added some CCI primers to them ( NO LIVE ROUNDS). I hand fed the primed ONLY casings into the chamber, and 10/11 rounds went off. The 11th round had a light primer strike. I added 5 more rounts with primers and yet again light primer strikes.
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The one with the blue tape is the round that upon firing the primer did not go off.

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One thing I did find weird was that I measured how far the firing pin went in when the trigger was pulled OUT of the chassis and in the chassis and I came back with 2 different numbers.
OUT OF THE ACTION
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In the action ( Im not sure if this is significant or not.) I checked the action screws to make sure they werent blocking anything and no they were just fine.
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I have no way to test the trigger vs a stock factory trigger or whatnot ( unless you all can think of a way)
I was wonder if maybe you guys can offer me some help in diagnosing this issue?

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SOLD Impact Precision 6GT (737 Action, 26" M24 barrel, TT Diamond Pro)

For sale as package:

Impact Precision 737R Action
26" Bartlein M24 stainless barrel (Impact by Stuteville) 1-7.5" twist
TBAC Brake
TT Diamond Pro curved trigger
200 rounds down the barrel
Perfect condition
$1,900 firm - shipped CONUS

Rifle is perfect condition, just thinning the herd. KRG chassis negotiable.

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Double whammy

I was doing some scope shuffling yesterday, and while removing my Steiner P4xi from the Scalarworks mount, the mount kinda crumbled like a cookie. This is the second (and last) time a Scalarworks mount broke at the hinges on me. The front hinge is about to go, as well. This was not a hard-use set up and I never over-torque. Contacting Scalarworks tomorrow.

The first failure I had was on a brand new, just out of the box mount. The hinges failed as I was initially zeroing my LMT.

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The other scope and mount I was doing swaptronics on was a Kahles K16i in a Badger C1 mount. I planned to put the Steiner in the Badger mount and sell off the Kahles and Scalarworks (well, just the Kahles now) to fund some recently purchased glass. As I'm removing the Kahles, I observe the "1" on the throwlever is not aligned with the dot on the eye bell. As soon as I grab the eye bell, it is loose. I turn it to tighten it (gently, not cranked) and here is how it aligns:

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Almost 180 degrees out of whack. Look at the gap when I have the dot aligned with the 1:

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So now I need to contact Kahles/Swaro tomorrow, as well.
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What Happened The Last Time Two Eclipses Formed A Giant “X” Over The New Madrid Fault Zone?


A heads up

Here today, gone tomorrow. Bombshell stories that disappeared like a fart in the wind...

Do we have any members here that still remember scandalous/bombastic stories that on one day encapsulated the entirety of the news and then suddenly vanished without any resolution or follow through shortly afterwards? I can recollect a few. The inspiration for this thread in particular though that I'm wondering about this evening is whatever happened with the investigation into the "Panama Papers" from however many years ago?

Anyone else remember otherwise damning stories that were swept under the proverbial rug? I know, I know- ASGH right?

-LD
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Optics S&B, Razor HD’s, DMR’s, Leupold, Millet, Acog.

Selling off some older scopes and also some from a late friends collection for his family. illumination works on all scopes. prices are obo. Prices don’t include shipping. I’ll accept checks, money orders, or Zelle as payment. Checks need to clear before shipping. I’m an 07FFL/SOT feel free to call with questions 707-923-3006. This is a landline no texting.

-Vortex RZR HD Gen2 4.5-27x56 -SOLD-

-Vortex RZR HD 5-20x50 Gen1 EBR-2 $1200

-(2) Bushnell Elite Tactical DMR 3.5-21x50 G3 reticles $800

-Millett 6-25x56 LRS-1 $350

-Trijicon Acog 4-32x, -SOLD-

-Leupold 3.5-10x44 Mark 4 -SOLD-

Only possible trade is NF 1-8 LPVO in MOA

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SOLD Atacr 4-16 mil with mount

Has minor blemishes nothing crazy I will remove the bandage tspe for serious buyers

2000 with mount shipped and insured

1875 no mount shipped insured



If you have a xtr3 3-18 I’ll take 650 off in trade


If you have have a strike eagle 3-18 I’ll take 500 off in trade

Thanks

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SOLD 6.5 PRC Bartlein MDT ACC Area 419 Part out

Time to break up the party :cool: The scope and brass have been sold.

Savage 12 action with ptg bolt face, Timney trigger, and weaver 20 moa base: $350
MDT ACC Chassis with MDT accessories: $925
MDT ACC Alone: $800
MDT full internal weight kit: $100
MDT 2 pair external weights: $90
MDT bag rider: $30
MDT vertical grip: $30

Area 419 Sidewinder 6.5 brake: $150
Bartlein 6.5 PRC prefit barrel - 26" 1:8 twist 5/8x24 threaded muzzle (round count = 340): $375


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What is the ideal SHTF optic?

I’ve posted opinions on the need for a legit MPVO battle optic. Most people would say a red dot or LPVO or both is best. I think a 1-10 LPVO might be ideal, but the optical limitations on a 10x erector limit performa CE and greatly increase prices. I think if the solution to a problem is $3500 then you haven’t really solved it.

Here’s my reasoning. I’m open to suggestion though, so you’re welcome to Change my mind.

I think when SHTF occurs, whether it is a local riot or something larger like power grid goes down, US Dollar devalues to worthlessness or a foreign invasion, the idea that you’ll have lots of run and gun 10-25 yard encounters is incorrect. This is what everyone trains for, but I think people are smarter than we give them credit for. The will to live is the most powerful human instinct. If you put millions of people in a life or death situation, they will not be running up your sidewalk in broad daylight to break down your door.

Let’s take the big cities, where gun ownership is oppressed by “the man”, gun knowledge and training is very low. Once SHTF, there will be an initial culling of the herd where the drug addicted and starving kill each other. After that wake up call, the remaining people, well over 50% I think, have hunkered down and pooled resources. They scavenged weapons and ammo from the dead. Hopefully these people will want to join the rest of society in the fight for survival, but if they don’t, they will likely be coming for our resources in the burbs and rural areas. Or they are foreign invaders intent on killing us. Either way, these combatants will be keeping a low profile. Even moving through suburbia, going house to house, you can expect it to be night time, they will hide behind cars, edge of buildings, privacy fences, any cover they can find. They will not be a mob walking down the middle of the street like portrayed in movies.

I read a report, sorry can’t remember where, that they examined foreign civil unrest situations of the past. Most of the shooting done inside cities and towns were at distances of 50 yards and greater. People don’t like to get shot! They aren’t very bold when they know everyone else has a gun. So most shooting was done from cover, pop up shoot, drop down. Targets are small. An exposed shoulder, a foot under a car, top of a head behind a wall etc. Hiding in empty houses and apartments and shooting out windows down the street. People would take pot shots from 200-300 yards away hoping to get lucky and then slink in and take the gun, food, car or whatever.

I think your handgun is there for the CQB stuff if needed, but what is really needed is the ability to return fire to attackers from 50-300 yds away, shooting from behind cover. They aren’t going to knock on your front door. When they shoot, your return fire target will be a few inches in size. Quick precision will be needed in a gun that is not 20# and a red dot will be insufficient at times. I think the ideal optic will be a 1-6x, 1-8x LPVO or a 2-10x, 2-12x MPVO. I personally would prefer the latter, but there are no great candidates right now with a reticle purpose built for this kind of shooting. Exceptions are maybe the chinese made Athlon and Swampfox 2-12x’s.

So again, I’ll ask, what is the ideal SHTF optic? Does this optic even exist yet? Or do you disagree completely with everything stated above and you believe red dot is the way to go or your 3-18x will do just fine?

P.S. - I don’t think I’m alone on this. Many well regarded rifle scope reviewers have mentioned a desire for improved choices in this area. C_DOES on YT, @Glassaholic here on the hide, Brass Facts as well as Barrel & Hatchet on YT. SupersetCA, now called Gunners Guild on Rumble has made similar statements. This purpose built MPVO, It’s not just to occupy the space in between all the other groups. In fact, I would argue, it is the most important category.

Failure to fire with AAC Ammunition

Good morning,

I have been scratching my head for a week now and have kind of hit a wall. I have a Zermatt/Big Horn TL3 SA Action in a Pork Sword Chassis build I am completing and for the life of me, I cannot get it to fire AAC ammo. It is chambered in 300 Blackout and the sole intention of this thing is to be a well-rounded garbage disposal. Here are the parts for anyone who may take the time to help me trouble shoot.

Action: Zermatt TL3-SA
Trigger: Geissele Super 700
Barrel: Black Collar Arms 9" 300BLK

Tools Used:
Zermatt Action Wrench
12pt 1-1/8 Crowfoot
Forster Go/No-Go Gauges.

Here is a picture of the build:

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The left group (FTF) of ammo is all AAC (115gr, 110gr, 125gr SMK) and the right group (Fired) is Hornady, Sabre, S&B Tactical, Winchester Super Suppressed and Ammo Inc. Not Shown is the Hornady black.​

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Sorry for the huge pictures, hopefully they give an idea. Here is what I tried:

I have rebuilt the action and head-spaced about three times, each giving the same result. It does not feel tight or "forced" when closing the bolt. I believe it is head spaced right.

I have changed the trigger out to a Triggertech Special Pro from the Geissele. I have read in other posts people remedied similar issues by swapping them out due to potential drag or sear issues. No change in results.

I field stripped the bolt and cleaned the spring and firing pin to eliminate any drag from debris or thick lubricants.

My guess? The primers are hard as hell.

Question is, what can I do?

Zermatt offered to remove material to allow for up to another 10 thou in travel for the firing pin but I am not sure that will fix this. When I pull the trigger on this ammo, it's a very distinct, soft "thud". When I headspaced, the extractor was removed, so I don't think I gave myself a false head space. I am no means a bolt action expert and I am at a point of confusion as to how I can get this thing to do what I need it to do. Any input is greatly appreciated. Anyone who may figure it out, you get some coffee on me.

Steve
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The "2" Top ALPHA scopes...

Both are "Awesome" optics... :)
You cannot make a bad choice with either of these!!(y)

6-36 S&B
7-35 Tangent Theta.

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SOLD *Long Discontinued* Benchmade/HK Snody Tanto (14250SBK-701)

I have an excellent condition Benchmade/HK Snody Tanto (Model #: 14250SBK-701). This has the foliage green G10 scales.

This knife has been long discontinued and was made around 2008. I have had this in my closet and it has never been carried or cut with. Factory sharp 154CM blade.

There is one very small mark on the black blade finish on the edge of the grind (see pics). I unfortunately do not have the box. Will come as pictured with knife and HK marked soft pouch. Blade is marked “Limited Edition.”

Asking $215 shipped

PayPal FF, Venmo, or Zelle for payment.

May listen to trades for Microtech, Protech, or Benchmade, but I may be picky.

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Of course it is all lies and propaganda!


Giant woke consulting company fakes data and companies end up FUBAR and the doors fall off planes and bridges fall down.

Shocked I say.

Now, who goes to jail?

Oh… right… nobody!

Forget I asked.

Sirhr

Firearms Wts ,Barrett MRAD MK22 Socom trials rifle

WTS


2. USMC M40 clone remington 6 digit receiver moved to auction sight

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7. Sold , Smith Enterprise Inc rare a Smith forged marked M14 Double Lugged front and rear Mesa receiver, sold

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8. US SOCOM Barrett MRAD fully documented Socom trials rifle, one of 10 Rifles used in the MK22 Socom Trials she is in excellent condition come with case two mags no scope or mount norma 330 mag certification by Barrett $12,000.00 obo

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9. Item still for sale still , M40 stock raw unfinished, Scope green Repo with tombstone range finder like the original trigger group , badger ord repo scope mount and rings, butt plate. $599.00 shipped insured via USPS
Barrel and bottom sold
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12. 91/30 PU Sniper scope and repo mount, very good condition PU scope with good clear glass and nice repo scope mount , $499.00 shipped

SOLD Manners LRH with m5 mini chassis

Manners short action long range hunter. M5 mini chassis. 2 flush cups left side. Pic rail in front and manners short arca at the front of the bottom metal inlet. Excellent condition. Only selling to switch to medium action for hunting. $1000 shipped. Prefer check or money order, but can accept Venmo or Zelle.

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