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You don't want a short barrel on a cartridge built for speed. Not that any modern factory made rimfire is remotely heavy or overly long in the first place compared to our match rifles. Keep the barrel as long as possible to keep the speed up. Most guys aren't really walking p-dog colonies anyway. .17HMR can easily reach out well over 200yds in capable hands. The energy on target gets a little weak at 300yds and beyond....I remember a big fat p-dog momma at 365yds caught one like a baseball catcher sucking in fastball. She winced and turned around and went down her hole like nothing happened.

The good news is there haven't been many guns chambered in
17HMR I've seen that truly sucked. The cartridge is a very accurate design. Just don't buy the cheapest model in the line with a plastic flimsy stock or a semi auto....and you should be almost assured a decent p-dog gun. I would probably lean towards a CZ if it were me since they tend to have higher machining quality and model options. The switch barrel feature of the 457 is definitely a plus. Super easy to thread for a can being quick change barrel....if it isn't already threaded from factory.

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It’s an animated GIF downscaled from the video above, so yes, it is in fact CGI…

…but in principle, isn’t everything nowadays?

The cannon USED TO BE the GSh-23L, which fired 23mm rounds.

There may be a 30mm variant, but I’m not up - to - date on this, and what I remember from my 30 year old books may be obsolete - so I’m going by what Yasherka and GreenGO said up there.

EDIT: I used to be such a fanboi over military helicopters, and just had a flashback over another wierd model number… The pointy rocket pods were UV-32-57s, which had 32 57mm unguided rockets each.

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That's kind of what I thought...

So from an analysis perspective... it's a video game.

And even in the game, those look like rocket pods.

I have some old references, but I know I don't have Janes Aircraft from that period. That would be a definitive source. Especially a copy printed after the Hind was given out to SovBloc Allies who would have made access to Jane's 'reporters' easier. That said, most countries were pretty honest sharing technical data with Janes. National engineering prestige for one thing. And Jane's was the Sears Roebuck Catalog for third world meat-cleaver glitterati with big diamond mines, oil reserves, warm port access and a penchant for aligning with whoever sold the best weapons. The Hind was a prestige aircraft for any craphole dictator to own and Janes was where you made your shopping list! ("Mercedes 600 Pullman? Check. Rolex President? Check. Hind Helicopter? Check. Now, let's invade our shithole neighbor because our shithole is not shithole enough and we need their shithole, too!" -- It was the early '80's in a nutshell!)

Plus Janes was meticulous in their preparation of entries. Which is why they were the go-to reference for every world military and intel agency.

If anyone has a copy of Janes Aircraft c. 1982-4... the Hind entry would probably be dead on.

Sirhr

Decide to sell it after all

Nik, thanks for that post. Completely packed with useful information.

do you still have the straight trigger?

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Farmed sea food of any stripe is an absolute no go for me. Partly for health reasons. But honestly mostly because it's so much fun to catch your own.

"The amount detected in one of the shipments was below the FDA’s “derived intervention level” for Cs-137 and does not pose an “acute hazard” to humans. However, the FDA said the recall and other measures they’ve taken are to “reduce exposure to low-level radiation.”"

So the FDA is is writing new rules on the fly too?

Using a Hornady app to check or produce data for the AB app is not sound. Kind of like using rules of thumb instead of math. Perhaps each have their place, but not together.

Do you still have the Xylo for sale?

I used that color on two barrels, both from PVA. It turned out great. I baked them in the oven at 200 degrees to cure for the recommended time; no fumes……..wife had no idea when she came home . Brownells was out of other colors I needed, so I rattle canned Rustoleum on top.

Alien61 said:

Range4?

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Yezzur

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Now it’s well understood and completely accepted by the majority of the population.

TheBigCountry said:

Terry Cross stock
DNT Scope
Harris bipod
Zermatt action
Bartlein barrel
MDT mags
ARC rings
Hawkins MB
TBAC suppressor


I think that would cover a lot of bases

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The fact that I have a DNT advertisement on the left banner, right banner, top banner, and in my little change pocket of my jeans every time I open the 'Hide on my computer is precisely why I wouldn't use them. I don't care if they are the slightly less gay cousin of the Arken or not.

theLBC said:

they should be declared terrorists, like the muslim brotherhood.

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NoDopes said:

I'm pretty sure this stats bullshit started under the Muslim brotherhood kenyan.

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In the past I've done a shit ton of AH II on various guns. It wears fairly well, obvious patterns on pump guns slides, etc. Pretty much a no go with wear on pistols, no go on rifle bolts of course. Nice thing is it's cheap and you can touch it up as needed with virtually no prep. Good for a camo pattern on hunting guns, AR's etc. I always noticed the dark parkerized gray or whatever it's called was always thick. I was in coastal Va. paint then outside in the summer, hang in the attic, very hot and cured well. Cerakote will and can scratch easily, it's paint, again, cheap to touch up if needed with AH.

For those that don’t use IG.

Fire sale

sirhrmechanic said:

Send me their address before it gets out of hand.

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I’ve dealt with worse!

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Been there myself.

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