Ledzep said:

Take this or leave it. I noticed POI changes from our 100/200yd tunnel to outside in sunlight. I'm not an optical engineer and I don't have the know-how or equipment necessary to properly understand and test this to say anything with authority... I might even be wrong in correlating it to indoor vs. outdoor, but to the best of my knowledge that was my experience. YMMV.

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I thought of that but my tweaked velocity settings seemed to work outdoors as well.

As far as adjusting the BC to match the actual trajectory, should I enter a lower number to match the low velocity (i.e. 0.398 to 0.298) as the Sierra website seems to suggest?
How much lower should it be to show an actual difference?
The above change did not cause any change through my app.

beetroot said:

@DKN83
@VargmatII
@Mr.BR
@JayjayUK

Sorry to call you guys out, but you're the only members I know for sure aren't in the US.

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Well as seen on recent World IPRF rimfire and European rimfire PRS ,Europe powerhouses in Rimfire PRS are Czech Republic and Poland and anyone watching results in this years IPRF in UK , US only took individual gold in Women and Senior category , individual open and factory went Australia and UK , there were maybe 2 americans in top 10 , a massive change from 2years ago when there was also a huge equipment gap .
In European Championship top 20 were practicaly all Czech and Poles , with one or two other nationalities in between.

Skandinavia is better represented in centerfire , but still Eastern europe is where its at , lots to do with gun legislation and range availability.
Scandinavians can set up a competition at any remote farm ,but getting there is another thing making competing there more expensive
Germany,Austria ,Netherlands are extremely limited in Regards to ranges . They all need to travel abroad to compete . Germans,Austrians,Dutch domestically shot in fucking 100-200m indoor ranges ,many shoot whole season abroad ,so you have German and Austrian nationals hosted in Czech republic.

Eastern europe has lots of former cold war shooting ranges some now private and military is very open to letting civilians play. Which is like no go in Western Europe.


UK ,Australia,NZ have great shooters but given location and legislation , they are somewhat isolated have to travel far =$$$ for international comps.

MikeMiller said:

Unfortunately when you shoot big matches like FTR you will probably go 400-450 rds between cleanings

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Why wait 400-450 rounds in between cleanings? Not poking at ya just asking. Yes a 308win or 223 gun for bore size vs case capacity they are easy on barrels but shoot a magnum round or a 6.5x284 or 6CM etc... your asking for problems.

Keep in mind as the barrel wears and the bore is getting rougher... it's going to change over time. When that barrel is new... sure I can see it going for say 200-300 rounds on a 308win... but when that barrel has a couple of thousand rounds on it... it might not hold accuracy for that long of a round count. Food for thought.

If I'm shooting F class Nationals or even a two day weekend match... I clean the gun that night so it's ready to go the next day.

hermosabeach said:

BLM went batshit crazy

Off duty cop crashed into black man and then shot him dead



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If you don't have a dash cam, get one today.

$50-$250 is the price range

If you are 100% inept, go to Best Buy and they charge $50-$75 to install and they normally price match Amazon.

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And... These sheep will believe the BS regardless of actual HONEST witnesses or video.

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Hickswr said:

Back when 8th place was considered “mid-pack”

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8th was pretty good in the 2003 and on when the matches were taking off. Usually 80 or so shooters was the norm. Terry is real old so he went to them before then. lol

The curve of the earth is about 32" over 2 miles.

Very few if anybody who actually shoots LR cares about flat.

DeathBeforeDismount said:

How was the prize table @Rob01 & @NOMAD

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Actually they were pretty good back then. I used to pay for my trips with them. lol

Which magazine length does the bottom metal accept? I looked online and it appears that there are three choices 3.715, 3.775, or 3.85?

alamo5000 said:

I am just asking for clarification, but have you put your elevation in your calculator? Using sea level calculations up in the mountains can definitely throw everything off.

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Yes, the App has location through GPS.

Ledzep said:

Being that far off that close, even with subsonics... to me, screams of something else not being quite right. I'd be looking at your zero.

If you tell the calculator you're zeroed at 50 yards, it better be 50.0 yards and it better be spot-on at zero. The closer you do these things, the more precise everything needs to be. Saying, "Ahh .15" off, close enough" is twice as bad at 50 than it is at 100 than it is at 200, etc...

If you tell the app that the bullet crosses line of sight (zero) at a given distance, it runs the calculation so that it crosses at that distance exactly. Any error in your zero is a direct linear error carried through all the calculations.

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My zero is set indoors, with the distance actually ranged and the target placed at the exact spot (not 24yds, not 24.5, actual 25yds).
So, yeah I try to eliminate as many variables as I can.

Bearcatrp said:

The price is nuts for one without that plate. Think I saw $79 bucks from the link provided.

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Those were 12 rounders but even with the plate they are about that much. They are a thing that lasts though and you will have them for years. I have my original AI AICS mags from 2004 and still use them.

Also look at them on Black Friday as the MDT sale is usually close to half price.

You guys should all know better shame on you all. You go about your lives looking for the flattest trajectories you can get.

If the earth were round you would be looking for drop that matches the curve.

But no you bitch about drop all the time.

Like this? Hornady's latest earth curve matching bullets with a bc of 0.0 67

Get this guy into a retirement home already! Geeeez!

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