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2+2=7, but WHY? Expectations vs reality.

Take this or leave it. I noticed POI changes from our 100/200yd tunnel to outside in sunlight. I'm not an optical engineer and I don't have the know-how or equipment necessary to properly understand and test this to say anything with authority... I might even be wrong in correlating it to indoor vs. outdoor, but to the best of my knowledge that was my experience. YMMV.
I thought of that but my tweaked velocity settings seemed to work outdoors as well.
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Which counties outside North America have a strong PRS scene? Rim or centerfire

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Sorry to call you guys out, but you're the only members I know for sure aren't in the US.
Well as seen on recent World IPRF rimfire and European rimfire PRS ,Europe powerhouses in Rimfire PRS are Czech Republic and Poland and anyone watching results in this years IPRF in UK , US only took individual gold in Women and Senior category , individual open and factory went Australia and UK , there were maybe 2 americans in top 10 , a massive change from 2years ago when there was also a huge equipment gap .
In European Championship top 20 were practicaly all Czech and Poles , with one or two other nationalities in between.

Skandinavia is better represented in centerfire , but still Eastern europe is where its at , lots to do with gun legislation and range availability.
Scandinavians can set up a competition at any remote farm ,but getting there is another thing making competing there more expensive
Germany,Austria ,Netherlands are extremely limited in Regards to ranges . They all need to travel abroad to compete . Germans,Austrians,Dutch domestically shot in fucking 100-200m indoor ranges ,many shoot whole season abroad ,so you have German and Austrian nationals hosted in Czech republic.

Eastern europe has lots of former cold war shooting ranges some now private and military is very open to letting civilians play. Which is like no go in Western Europe.


UK ,Australia,NZ have great shooters but given location and legislation , they are somewhat isolated have to travel far =$$$ for international comps.

Cleaning and abrasives and Fire Lapping

Unfortunately when you shoot big matches like FTR you will probably go 400-450 rds between cleanings
Why wait 400-450 rounds in between cleanings? Not poking at ya just asking. Yes a 308win or 223 gun for bore size vs case capacity they are easy on barrels but shoot a magnum round or a 6.5x284 or 6CM etc... your asking for problems.

Keep in mind as the barrel wears and the bore is getting rougher... it's going to change over time. When that barrel is new... sure I can see it going for say 200-300 rounds on a 308win... but when that barrel has a couple of thousand rounds on it... it might not hold accuracy for that long of a round count. Food for thought.

If I'm shooting F class Nationals or even a two day weekend match... I clean the gun that night so it's ready to go the next day.
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To be serious - this dash cam saved him his life, career, home and more



If you don't have a dash cam, get one today.

$50-$250 is the price range

If you are 100% inept, go to Best Buy and they charge $50-$75 to install and they normally price match Amazon.

And... These sheep will believe the BS regardless of actual HONEST witnesses or video.

2+2=7, but WHY? Expectations vs reality.

Being that far off that close, even with subsonics... to me, screams of something else not being quite right. I'd be looking at your zero.

If you tell the calculator you're zeroed at 50 yards, it better be 50.0 yards and it better be spot-on at zero. The closer you do these things, the more precise everything needs to be. Saying, "Ahh .15" off, close enough" is twice as bad at 50 than it is at 100 than it is at 200, etc...

If you tell the app that the bullet crosses line of sight (zero) at a given distance, it runs the calculation so that it crosses at that distance exactly. Any error in your zero is a direct linear error carried through all the calculations.
My zero is set indoors, with the distance actually ranged and the target placed at the exact spot (not 24yds, not 24.5, actual 25yds).
So, yeah I try to eliminate as many variables as I can.
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The price is nuts for one without that plate. Think I saw $79 bucks from the link provided.

Those were 12 rounders but even with the plate they are about that much. They are a thing that lasts though and you will have them for years. I have my original AI AICS mags from 2004 and still use them.

Also look at them on Black Friday as the MDT sale is usually close to half price.

More lies revealed. Oil didn’t come from Dino bones 42 miles deep

You guys should all know better shame on you all. You go about your lives looking for the flattest trajectories you can get.

If the earth were round you would be looking for drop that matches the curve.

But no you bitch about drop all the time.

Like this? Hornady's latest earth curve matching bullets with a bc of 0.0 67

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