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Optics Leica Televid 82, 25-50WW Eyepiece and Leica 1.8x Extender

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Got this used on a good deal from a camera store and don't think an angled spotter is for me. I plan on shipping it back for a refund but I figured I'd offer it up on here first in case someone might be interested.

Leica Televid 82 with the 25-50 WW Eyepiece, also comes with the Leica 1.8x Extender. I will say the extender is the nicest one I've used and I've also had the Kowa and the Swaro extenders. As far as I can tell its in excellent condition. There is a tiny bubble in the lens in the bottom right quadrant that shows up at 25x magnification but disappears before you crank it up to 30x.

$2500 Shipped to your door. PM if you'd like any pictures.
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FN SCAR IS DEAD; LONG LIVE THE SCAR! US and Belgium Production is over.

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A commercial/civilian LICC faces a couple major challenges this early on: no ammunition ecosystem in place to support a commercial venture, proprietary magazines on top of that (which no one in the commercial market ever likes), and it is likely only in low rate production at best right now. If you've seen a LICC in person, it is incredibly complex. If you think a commercial SCAR is expensive, I can't image what a commercial LICC would run.

I would not expect a commercial LICC until well after it is fully adopted and fielded by the military customer.
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I Spy New Baby Razor G3 4-24

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carbonbased said:
Possible Covert Whinging found! Centering around price is probable!

😂 ok guys, just giving you some good-natured shit. Not going for some slugfest. Stan, I know where you stand on price that that’s ok.

If we couldn’t joke around on this subforum, it would be…the rimfire section!
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These days I care more about reticle than price, and what I care about in a reticle Vortex will never make.

-Stan
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4DOF inclined fire error

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Ledzep said:
That is from the wind angle. It's pushing into the bullet level with the horizon while the bullet is going up hill, so with wind will hit higher than without wind. In level fire the wind is head-on fighting the bullet so with wind will hit lower, if you were to shoot down hill the head-wind component would push the bullet down (hit lower with wind), and when you shoot up hill, the head wind component pushes the bullet up relative to your line of sight (hit higher with wind).

If you repeat that same setup with a 270 or 90 wind angle, you will see the same relative shift as your flat fire.


ETA: I'm not saying 4DoF is correct. I'm not saying it's wrong. We're looking into it. But what you're talking about, the .3 mil difference, is from relative wind angle introducing a vertical component when you shoot up or down hill.
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I am familiar with the winds effect on the elevation of the bullet.

Here is another example with a negative 5 degree shot, all the same data as above.

71 f
26.61 sp
20% H
Berger 130 OTM 2870 fps AFF 1.01
1500 yards



Shooting angle negative 5 degrees, no wind, 15.48
10 mph wind from 322, 16.25 drop

That is almost an 8 tenth difference, after looking at the examples and comparing to other calcs, something ain't mathing. a 5 degree angle is .99619 cosine, cosine isn't perfect when trying to calculate the best solution, but it is the equivalent of about a 1494 yard shot, or just over a tenth of dope.

I'm not calling anyone out, just trying to get the best solution possible. I like and still use the 4dof app, find it easy to navigate, I just don't trust it on angle shots.
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FN SCAR IS DEAD; LONG LIVE THE SCAR! US and Belgium Production is over.

sirhrmechanic
dms416 said:
More SCARs will sell in the next 10 days than the last 10 years...

A wise individual once told me: "FN makes the best combat machine guns....they also make some other stuff. It seems the smaller you go, the shittier they get."

Curious that there's been more LICC content floating around just before this. Honestly this and/or the ICAR are the only mildly amusing "innovations" that set them apart in the rifle/carbine market would get me to consider going deep into a new platform. That said, I have ZERO delusions that FN gives a fuck about putting out a Civ LICC.
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The 5.7 is pretty cool and the carbine were both really innovative. FN Mimini is 'old' now but was very innovative.

The FAL is one of the most iconic battle rifles ever produced and is still around in various formats.

All the way back to their relationship with John Browning... FN has been at the forefront of a lot. And their quality iis fantastic. Herstal/Liege have produced some of the greatest guns in history.

That said, I think you are right that SCAR sales are about to go through the roof. And someone who was joking about bubbas asking 25K for a SCAR (and maybe a few getting it) is NOT going to be a surprise. Shit like this brings out the chumps!

We'll see what happens with the LICC... or IPC. But like you, would be surprised if it manages to come out in a civilian version. Then again, I've been wrong before. If there is money to be made, the Belgian Gun Industry will find a way to make it!

Cheers,

Sirhr
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