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Are match barrels worth it for a “new to precision” shooter?

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Herb Stoner said:
The OP was about a factory complete rifle so, in that case, it struck me that he was falling for some marketing. I have yet to acquire a proper precision rimfire rifle so not too conversant in those applications. I get the various reamer thing from ordering barrels for larger calibers I shoot but wasn’t aware you could get a 22lr barrel for a specific factory ammo. Learned something new. Thanks!
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Not a problem, I’ve got a barrel from PBB and they chambered it with I believe the lapua reamer from pacific tool. Now does it shoot sk/lapua like a champ, that it does but its shot its best group ever with eley team. So just because its chamber is tailored to a specific ammo doesn’t always mean it’s going to shoot it the best, it does shoot SK/Lapua the most consistently as compared to Eley but that’s to be expected.
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Rifle Scopes Revisiting drop testing

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Scope failures are a waring sign." Maybe sort of, more so with new modles with the caveat, What failed? Are they failing at the same point?

"Drop it on the turret." That little fine threaded interface between your fingers and the scope erector? You must be high as shit. 🤣🤣

Go bang the end of bunch of bolts with a hammer and see which ones you can still get a nut on. Throw lawn darts into a crowd. Was the guy who got hit, most likely to get hit. It's variable, the results are variable. I.E based on luck.

If your smashing your turrets into stuff all the time. They make scopes with capped adjustments. BTW
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Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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HogsLife said:
100%

If Jesus was to return today, spread the Gospel Truth with love, and kindness, work miracles, call people to repentance and to turn from their sin, these very same people would murder Him .

This is absolutely an attack on Him above anything else. It’s spiritual good vs evil masked in “politics”.
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They would certainly try, but when He returns the sword he carries will deflect any attempt and His face will blind any attacker.

In his right hand he held seven stars, from his mouth came a sharp two-edged sword, and his face was like the sun shining in full strength.
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Someone murdered Charlie Kirk

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Gunfighter14e2 said:
A good investigator explores all facets & possibilities of all events, until they are run to ground. Not doing this is how the Truth about events stay hidden, and agendas are advanced. Never discount anything until,... You,... prove it false.
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That is not true, and frankly ridiculous. That’s what a conspiracy theorist does and the way one thinks. A good “investigator”, detective, analyst, etc. follows the evidence, and does not speculate about all possibilities and find rabbit holes to go down and waste his time. What you do is the opposite. You disbelieve everything they’re told fact and force it to fit into your worldview. Like for some EVERY SINGLE POST is about evil Jews. Being skeptical and distrustful of the media and the government is wise given the reality, but when you discount every fact and replace it with your biases it’s no better than believing everything they’re told fact. Go to the beginning of this thread and read speculation based on evidence and compare it to the mountain of people chiming in with theories based on their own biases and it becomes abundantly clear who thinks like a good investigator, and who picks and chooses facts, and invents facts, to support their own prejudices.

If investigators did not follow the facts no crimes would ever get solved, and biases and prejudices are usually why crimes go unsolved. Conspiracy is the exception and not the rule.

Only one person can keep a secret. Tell someone or involve someone and it’s not a secret anymore. The truth will out the vast majority of the time.

I don’t trust the government or the media either, but like all liars the lies are mixed with truth, and facts are facts.
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Rifle Scopes Revisiting drop testing

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NateVA said:
People think about the goal of the testing in the wrong way. It's meant to raise red flags about an optic model, not definitively prove all scopes of a line are bombproof/garbage. If you think about it in that way you can find value in it. Let's say someone thinks a Leupold VX6 has a lemon rate of 1/1,000. Well two of them were just tested and both shit the bed. What's the likelihood the droptesters got two lemons in a row? That person might then have to re-evaluate what they think the lemon rate is.

Only one Minox ZP5 has been tested and that one passed. If I genuinely thought the droptesting cleared all scopes of a certain model, I'd probably get a ZP5 because I hear they're also great to look through. To me, the droptesting is about raising red flags and establishing trends among optics manufacturers as far as which ones are actively trying to make robust/durable scopes. Nothing more. A Nightforce can still lose its zero I'm sure, it's more about getting an idea for the chance of that happening.
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If they received 2 quality scopes of any brand and both failed to hold zero. I would be more suspect of their testing than the scopes.

Basing assumed lemon rates on questionable testing doesn't seem like a smart way to look at it.
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Cleaning Carbon ring / barrel with Thorolean - Some Questions

Frank Green
carbonbased said:
Ah, yeah, maybe that’s it. I never use a brush.

Not yet, at least…but even @Frank Green uses a brush once in a while (with caveats that I have forgotten). So I imagine I’ll use one eventually.
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There does come a point in time that you do need to use a brush. If your paying attention to the barrel it will tell you.

Yes I have a few do's and don'ts when I do use them.

I use a next size smaller caliber or a worn out one and usually wrap a patch around it.

Only push breech to muzzle and all the way out. I remove the brush and guide the rod back thru. I don't drag the brush back over the edge of the crown.

Also a few wet patches thru the bore first to get all the loose garbage out before using a brush. Also if you see small black carbon deposits on the bristles of the brush rinse it off from time to time... the black specs are most likely hard carbon deposits.... these can scratch the bore worse than the brush might do.

Anyways....

Later, Frank
Bartlein Barrels
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Remington xm-3 vs Remington 40XS

6brshooter
I always liked the looks of the xm3, especially when you'd see in country pics. A friend was gathering parts to build one, as close as possible. He gave up on some parts and decided against 308 and went 6.5creed. I can tell you that after shooting it he and I hated that stock. Even with a scope mounted as low as possible, you still need to build up cheek area. Also that grip sucks if you spent a little time with a3-a5 mcm or most manners. Im sure ill catch hell for this but a "modern" xm3 would be similar profile 6.5creed in a lrh(not sure if it supports a nv bridge) or a prs1 or 2(whichever is the sloped butt stock bottom) with mini chassis or minimum bedded with ai dbm.
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