carbonbased said:

I did watch that podcast. They are looooongggg lol. I must’ve missed that particular exchange. What’s the time stamp?

Edit: whoops, you’re saying he’s asked you on again. Good. Again, you would be unwise to think I’m bluffing. Just send him a PM in the meantime. Dead serious.

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Here I am at the start of the flu on the bottom right. As I stated in this livestream, I'd like more accurate information.

carbonbased said:

You don’t have a hidden agenda, my dude. Your agenda is explicit, which is to sell ZCO. This is normal and expected as a sales guy. We get it. Nothing wrong with it.

My agenda is transparency. One can simultaneously recommend ZCO while pointing out past and current issues.

For example, here’s one discreet issue that really makes ZCO appealing to me: Flare control.

See this test, which may or may not suck. Seems legit to me? ZCO wins it.

Optics Comparison

Purpose As a competitive shooter, we often hear the question of which optic is best. While there are many components of an optic that contribute to the overall quality and its ability to perform, this review only focuses on optical clarity/resolution. The definition of clarity and resolution for...

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Oh please do. He’s talked about it numerous times, like below.


Give me enough time and I can back up the stuff I say…like the fact that the ZCO boys aren’t a fan of him. You would be unwise to think I’m lying. I am a paying member of his Locals site.

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You sir are being an ASS. This thread should be locked. You have been very antagonistic towards Richard and ZCO. Then you say you have never owned one. CST and Richard sell almost every name brand. Is ZCO perfect, probably not, nor is TT, Vortex, NightForce or any of the other brands he sells, and he will recommend whatever fits your needs best. Does he talk about ZCO a lot, sure it is what a lot of people choose. I normally enjoy your posts, but you seem to have decided to play Don Quixote and ride your donkey into battle. Calm down, take a nap or go shooting whatever. Whatever you think you are going to accomplish is not happening. Rich also probably should go have a drink or rebuild an engine. Tempers have flared and for everyone’s sake it needs to calm down.
Do I like ZCO, it’s pretty obvious I do, could I like TT as much, probably, but there are things I prefer on the ZCO bth are great scopes.

carbonbased said:

I did watch that podcast. They are looooongggg lol. I must’ve missed that particular exchange. What’s the time stamp?

Edit: whoops, you’re saying he’s asked you on again. Good. Again, you would be unwise to think I’m bluffing. Just send him a PM in the meantime. Dead serious.

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I'm just trying to dessiminate misinformation, I never said any company is perfect. Those posts also have call logs and PM's to us, there's more to the story... I'll be gone for the rest of the night. I have my number 916-628-3490 and will be on the road for 2 hours.

carbonbased said:

You don’t have a hidden agenda, my dude. Your agenda is explicit, which is to sell ZCO. This is normal and expected as a sales guy. We get it. Nothing wrong with it.

My agenda is transparency. One can simultaneously recommend ZCO while pointing out past and current issues.

For example, here’s one discreet issue that really makes ZCO appealing to me: Flare control.

See this test, which may or may not suck. Seems legit to me? ZCO wins it.

Optics Comparison

Purpose As a competitive shooter, we often hear the question of which optic is best. While there are many components of an optic that contribute to the overall quality and its ability to perform, this review only focuses on optical clarity/resolution. The definition of clarity and resolution for...

www.kineticsecuritysolutions.com

Oh please do. He’s talked about it numerous times, like below.


Give me enough time and I can back up the stuff I say…like the fact that the ZCO boys aren’t a fan of him. You would be unwise to think I’m lying. I am a paying member of his Locals site.

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Dude, you are coming across as the old lady at the fence passing old gossip. You readily admitted that you have zero first hand knowledge on the topic. You have been told that the links to the old shit are only partial information and yet you want to continue scratching a scab like there's an agenda behind it. What the fuck is your problem? Take your Karen shit somewhere else

carbonbased said:

I would be interested to hear your take on the various squabbles. You are obviously right; it is true there is more than one side to every disagreement (and agreement, too).

I can only link to public posts, and not to the thoughts or knowledge in someone’s head. It is up to the reader to analyze how trustworthy the problem report is.

Is there a reason why you can’t give everybody an edited version of various events? There needs to be enough detail in it, of course, for your take on it to be convincing.

You’ve got a hard job. But you’re making it harder on yourself. ZCO sorta sells itself, and when you sell a luxury good you gotta pedal it softly.

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I said it earlier, one of those members threatened legal action for no reason. I have the PM, is that juice worth the squeeze to us when all we sold was an accessory? NO






You don't like my aproach because I'm honest and myself. If you think I'm just going to soft shoe for customers because I'm in sales than you are wrong.

carbonbased said:

You don’t have a hidden agenda, my dude. Your agenda is explicit, which is to sell ZCO. This is normal and expected as a sales guy. We get it. Nothing wrong with it.

My agenda is transparency. One can simultaneously recommend ZCO while pointing out past and current issues.

For example, here’s one discreet issue that really makes ZCO appealing to me: Flare control.

See this test, which may or may not suck. Seems legit to me? ZCO wins it.

Optics Comparison

Purpose As a competitive shooter, we often hear the question of which optic is best. While there are many components of an optic that contribute to the overall quality and its ability to perform, this review only focuses on optical clarity/resolution. The definition of clarity and resolution for...

www.kineticsecuritysolutions.com

Oh please do. He’s talked about it numerous times, like below.


Give me enough time and I can back up the stuff I say…like the fact that the ZCO boys aren’t a fan of him. You would be unwise to think I’m lying. I am a paying member of his Locals site.

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So you did see me on his podcast recently and he did ask me on again...

TonyAngel said:

For many, it isn't an issue. Assuming all is well with the bolt, 1-1:30 is a sign of pretty aggressive gassing. As said, for many, it isn't as issue, as long as it keeps running with your chosen ammo.

So far, you've had reliability for 2000 rounds. Although overgassed rigs are generally more reliable than undergassed rigs, I'll bet your rig is seeing some pretty accelerated wear. Can you feel that groove in your cam pin yet? Notice some premature rounding on your bolt lugs? Ejector swipe marks on the brass? Perhaps partially torn rims on the cases?

Do you run steel cased ammo? Although your rig may be an exception, I'd lay odds that your rig chokes on steel cased ammo due to stuck cases.

I don't know how long you've had your AR or how many rounds you typically put through it, but for me, 2k rounds is a month of shooting and if I ran my setup that overgassed, I'd be replacing parts pretty often.

If you're considering going suppressed, I highly recommend some gas mitigation before doing so. Your rig will beat itself to death in pretty short order, if it runs at all.

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I am running a CAT WB, brass cased 77 grain SMKs. For me the 2K is about 2,5 years. Fixed gas block. It may fail and when it does I will replace the parts. All I care about is it running. The parts are like barrels, consumables. But thanks, I will watch the cam pin and bolt legs.

This has been going on since the partition in 1947.
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While I agree with you that there's noting to recommend in Hinduism the worst and most Satanic elements of it (Thugee) were burned away under sustained the sustained fire of Enfield rifles. There are dozens of sects and an almost endless number of theologies. There is no overall thrust to spread, dominate, and enslave other peoples.

Islam on the other hand really only has one school of theology that comes in two different flavors that are basically the difference between Coke and Pepsi. Almost everything in wikipedia is a lie, and fringe sects/cults of the past that were labeled apostates and destroyed. On the central tenants and commands Sunni and Shea agree.

It is literally like living next to wild natives who are bred from birth to murder or enslave you. Islam has never enjoyed a peaceful border with anyone, because at it's core it is a martial and Satanic religion that teaches only Muslims are human beings.

It won't end till God ends it.

That isn't to say there aren't wonderful Muslim people, just as there are wretched and horrible Christians. We're all the same, but the beliefs, values, and teachings are certainly not equal, and not the same. There is objective truth.

You’re all welcome to gargle my

I’m about to run this MWS in the next Run N Gun match I do. Heavy Metal Class. We’ll see if the weight is worth it for that style of match.

Threadcutter308 said:

That's so sweet, at least you don't think I'm a girl ..........

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Whatever sugar tits, STFU and bite the pillow

carbonbased said:

I have never owned a ZCO. Or a Kahles. Or a TT.

Scopes I own: Razor G2 4.5-27, S&B 5-25, NF 4-32, PST II’s, Razor LHT 4.5-22 and 3-15.

I simply & calmly tell it like I see it and often provide supporting links. I really hate groupthink and fanboy-ism. I think it’s pretty obvious I have no ZCO vendetta.

I mean, does @koshkin himself have a ZCO vendetta when he states he has heard of QA issues (via, ahem, non-public info) with the 840 while at the same time saying the 527 has a stellar QA rep? Or when he states ZCO is fudging their public FOV stats (and that ZCO dislikes him for that)??

No. He is telling it as he sees it.

C’mon guys.

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I'm glad you're posting for someone else again, we can meet on @koshkin podcast and we can discuss it. I won't be sick next time.

carbonbased said:

@CSTactical

You are taking this personally. It is not an attack, it a discussion aimed at other forum members, not sales guys. If you haven’t noticed, I actually suggested buying a ZCO vs a Kahles to the OP.

We get your position. You have a financial interest in selling ZCO. That’s fine. But you don’t see other store reps, like Doug from Cameraland, Euro Conner from EO, Mile High, or any other reps deluge threads with their rep opinions.

I also am flummoxed as to why you don’t pipe up so vociferously against problem reports regarding TT, S&B, Kahles, Leupold, Impact actions, Spuhr, Swaro, MDT, Vortex, or Zeiss etc, (all other brands you carry).

If a guy can’t link to public posts and pass on some insider info without 15 long dilutive replies from someone who has a financial interest in selling the product…well, you’re literally only damaging your brand (ZCO and CSTactical).

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This just shows that you do not read my posts, again I'm not just some Sales Guy. There is plenty of that on this forum, I'm not taking it personally as I stated that I've been directly involved in some of these past their user names whether it is over the phone, PM or both. Forum posts do not show the whole picture is what I've said earlier. Why are you taking all this personally when you're not directly involved in any of this and don't know what the truth is? If I'm just here for financial motivation, then why are you regurgitating all of these negative posts? What's your motivation? Who do you work for? What's your name?
If you're going to claim I have some hidden agenda then you have my number or you can come out of anonymity.

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Saw @supercorndogs today
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I ain't got no eeeee lectric automobile.

dms416 said:

Ok, seriously....

When and more importantly WHY did the ejection pattern become the end-all, be-all sign of AR operation?

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When I am across the border with Meal Team Six in my plausibly-deniable ambush position I need to know where my empties are going to land so I can ensure I leave no trace.

I am also a liar.

-Stan

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Second picture below is a new barrel compared to an original take off. All dimensions were taken from the original barrel and an original blue print.
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Just like @ilikebmxbikes said in his post above, these are the absolute best Mk13 Mod 3 barrels that collectors/cloners can possibly get! If any of you need a Mod 3 barrel, contact @crazynoto asap and get one the list. Who knows if this will be the last run or not, so grab 1 or 2 while you still can!

If you already have a built rifle, it's still a good idea to get in on this deal and pick up an extra barrel. It's pretty easy to shoot out a .300WM barrel, so having a spare barrel or two on hand and ready to go is a great backup option to have. And if this turns out to be the last run of these barrels, any loose barrels will drastically increase in price over the coming years. Just a few other things to think about.

It was extremely surprising when @crazynoto found his original Mod 3 barrel, since it's currently the only original Mk13 Mod 3 barrel in private hands. He sent me tons of photos and we spent countless hours going over the smallest of details. That analysis paid off because we discovered exactly how the original Mod 3 barrels were made! This isn't just a look-alike or something that's close to the originals, it's an EXACT reproduction of the original Mod 3 barrels! This is the only place to get one, and @crazynoto has gone through great lengths to order the barrel blanks in the exact specs he needs to make these clone barrels.

Once a gunsmith installs this clone Mod 3 barrel on your rifle and does the vertical gate latch cuts, it will be a 100% reproduction of the finished original military barrels. The barrel blanks come with the barrel journal already installed, so @crazynoto has already taken care of the most difficult part of the barrel that needs to be precisely duplicated.

Please ask any questions in this thread. If anyone needs a Mod 3 barrel or 2, don't pass up this opportunity!

Blackdirt Cowboy said:

In high school, there was a girl who got pregnant. Everyone was nailing her while they had the chance with no risk of getting her more pregnant.

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But a higher risk of getting an STD

These seats are mind-blowing!

oldrifleman said:

I agree that it is a sign, but for me I don't really care where it ejects if it does so reliably. My favorite upper consistently throws them at 1 -1:30 but has done so for a couple of thousand rounds. At that rate I won't touch a thing.

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For many, it isn't an issue. Assuming all is well with the bolt, 1-1:30 is a sign of pretty aggressive gassing. As said, for many, it isn't as issue, as long as it keeps running with your chosen ammo.

So far, you've had reliability for 2000 rounds. Although overgassed rigs are generally more reliable than undergassed rigs, I'll bet your rig is seeing some pretty accelerated wear. Can you feel that groove in your cam pin yet? Notice some premature rounding on your bolt lugs? Ejector swipe marks on the brass? Perhaps partially torn rims on the cases?

Do you run steel cased ammo? Although your rig may be an exception, I'd lay odds that your rig chokes on steel cased ammo due to stuck cases.

I don't know how long you've had your AR or how many rounds you typically put through it, but for me, 2k rounds is a month of shooting and if I ran my setup that overgassed, I'd be replacing parts pretty often.

If you're considering going suppressed, I highly recommend some gas mitigation before doing so. Your rig will beat itself to death in pretty short order, if it runs at all.

Ronin22 said:

The absolute best way to be a better shooter is to reduce or eliminate LOFT.

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Pardon my ignorance but what is LOFT?

KevinWood44 said:

How DARE I ask people on the internet what they do when training exist in the world.

Asking people what THEY do does not cost me any ammo. Stop being a snob. People can still discuss technique when live classes exist. Sorry but such an asinine reply

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Yeah, I'll keep my snob training to my damn self.

KevinWood44 said:

How DARE I ask people on the internet what they do when training exist in the world.

Asking people what THEY do does not cost me any ammo. Stop being a snob. People can still discuss technique when live classes exist. Sorry but such an asinine reply

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Well you asked a question about a very basic thing in shooting. I have seen too many new shooters develop bad habits trying to learn from the net on there own

I suggested a top notch shooting school Rifles Only that has a long history of making great gas gun shooters

Of course it costs nothing to ask how to shoot, tie your shoes etc but sometimes a little professional marksmanship instruction pays huge dividends

In your case have at it. I

If those idiots would get a truck with a V-plow... and weld on some pointy and sharpy things, they could do a whole lot better.

Running some plastic 5 mph bumper into folks is just so un-creative.

Get a Fisher 9 foot V and weld some cleavers and steel punjii stakes on it... and now you are talking!

So lame...

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