MustangGreg66 said:

Where/How did you source the Shell Shock NAS3 cases to load? Those seem really interesting.

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W54/XM-388 said:

So assuming your statement is correct and you are getting about 50% off of the public facing list MSRP price with Trijicon, then how much do you think the other competition such as Holoson is by the the time you get all the best discounts you can. probably 30% to 40% off their public facing pricing as well.

The reason you can get discounts on stuff like Trijicon these days is because they and their dealers have stiff competition from other brands.
You artificially take that away and you'll see the return of things like minimum selling prices and punishing dealers who give discounts and such like we used to see with certian optics (like PH).

MOST of the people buying RDS or similar optics for their pistols or ARs or shotguns or whatever are never going to be putting anything to "extreme use" except in their dreams. Those that do, probably also have some that they actually care about for "extreme use" and "ultimate reliability" and others that well if it has to go back for warranty service, no big deal.

When I'm buying a $300 .22 target pistol for fun at the range, I'm sure not interested in finding "a great deal" on an RDS at $450 for it, I'm looking to find a good deal on something that works at a low price, I'm looking to find a $400 Factory priced Holosun for like $200

I also own both Trijicon, and Holosun like you. Along with Leupold, Vortex, Aimpoint, in the RDS market and have also owned the ancient Insight brand and cheaper stuff such as Ameriglow and such over the past years.


Same things with scopes, S&B used to be what I bought then they decided to jack the prices "because they can" and so I went to other brands as well, Vortex used to be my go to brand for anything not S&B/ZCO/March level (still don't have a TT yet), but they started hiking their prices hugely so stuff from PA or Athlon started filling the gap for all the low end stuff where things didn't make sense.

My point is NOT that Holosun or others are "the same as" or "better than" Trijicon or whatever folks think is the greatest or whatever.
My point rather is that the stiff and increasing competition over the past 7 or 8 years has helped us all by driving innovation and putting a cap on how much can be charged before people swap to the competition.
Innovation and responding to market demands has been the biggest outcome regardless of what you buy and has helped us all have more and better stuff.

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roostercogburn98 said:

Seconds if RTH backs out

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ClintC said:

I will say because Woox doesn’t have a number. I will be going through a dealer and making the dealer responsible. I can call MDT or B&C ext to have an issue fixing and talk to a real person. I have had to call many manufacturers and got people on the phone. I should not have to play the email game. Again. Call fix the issue and fallow up with a email for a paperless trail.

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Rio Precision Gunworks said:

Here it is on a 12.5" 6arc:

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dms416 said:

Ok, seriously....

When and more importantly WHY did the ejection pattern become the end-all, be-all sign of AR operation?

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