NoDopes said:

All the morons defending Ukraine here, you realize EU has admitted crossing the red lines they knew Russia had stated. And they were buying time to arm up Ukraine in preparation for a battle they were causing. This isn't rocket science. Too bad the last thread got nuked, it had all the evidence plain to see with admissions.

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The EU actively worked to disarm or refuse to equip Ukraine with weapons, under the lead from several US Presidents dating back to the 1990s under Clinton.

Each of those US Presidents was on Soviet or Russian payroll dating back to the 1970s and 1980s, namely Biden, Clinton, and Obama.

Nobody from NATO sent weapons to Ukraine prior to 2022 except the US under Trump. You can see this in the FMS contracts on DSCA website. George W. Bush even refused to send weapons to Ukraine.

Putin was going to invade no matter if the EU bent over backwards for him with all the pipeline deals (which they did) or if they sent weapons (which they didn’t). Before 2022, you will find financial aid, a research vessel, and no real weapons.

It was’t until March of 2018, after Putin attacked US forces in Syria at the Battle of Khasham, that Trump started sending large shipments of Javelins, CLUs, patrol boats, munitions, and weapons.

Obama blocked David Cameron from sending weapons in Sept 2014, after his VP did Putin’s bidding by installing his crackhead son on the board of Russian-led Burisma, whose CEO was Mykola Zlockevsky (appointed as such by Putin’s puppet, Yanukovych).

Sandhog308 said:

Lake City is in flat farm land. The tornado was a EF-3. That part of the state usually doesn’t get hit but they got hit with a EF-4 in 2021.

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I just moved from SW Oklahoma. My asshole would pucker everytime the sirens went off. I dont know which is worse, and earthquake or tornado, both gve no warning and dont leave much place to hide.

Its a competition, about 45 minutes south of Charlottesville, Va. I grew up not far from there, beautiful area, lots of historic stuff to see. Worth spending an extra day or two. Any questions on what to see just ask.

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232593 said:

I have no doubt the USSR did that sort of shit.

However the assertion that Russia is intentionally targeting civilians in this conflict is flawed. For one if that was indeed the case we would be seeing a huge Ukrainian civilian body count given that civilians are not considered hard targets in any aspect of the word. For two targeting is done in support of the plan/CDR’s intent, so how does hitting an apartment building in your adversaries deep area further any operational level objective? Now if they hit a power substation or oil refinery I could see that. Or if Russia was AIMING for a legit target and missed, hitting a civilian structure I could see that as well. If it was said that Russias staff level processes & doctrine that inform their targeting cycle are horribly flawed I could also see that as well. Maybe their version of JP 3-60 has as much depth as a coloring book.

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They have literally leveled cities in Ukraine, and launched White Phosphorous submunitions into farming fields to deny the capacity to use that land. Most civilians evacuate when they get evacuation warnings about nearby Russian forces incrementally taking ground. Same thing in Chechnya and Georgia. Civilians are purposely targeted. Russians used very primitive words to describe these actions, which translate into, “We smash them."

They don’t think like we do from doctrinal, training, weapons manufacturing, or employment metrics. They still think about artillery and tanks as main efforts, with aviation as supporting elements for the advance. Their various career fields are silo’d from each other, where officers are selected and promoted based on patrimony mostly, not a merit-based system.

There are very old ways of doing things that are ingrained that date back centuries. The Soviet times were just a short blip in their overall history.

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remember Lenin? similar story.

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should have gotten it 1st term for calming Kim down

theLBC said:

how will they know what has happened to all the fissionable materials?

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What do you think is getting loaded on those Chinese cargo jets?

Along with a lot of gems, gold and other durable goods would be my bet.

Longshot231 said:

When and if a revolution is started in Iran, weapons will need dispersed to the rebels. Some will need training. This could require a limited amount of ground forces to augment Iranian rebels.

The Iranian leaders and military will not surrender because it will mean certain death when the rebels win. This could require infantry support sooner or later. Just who's infantry remains to be seen.

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What you’re describing is UW, not LSCO.

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I’ve worked on programs tied to some of the capabilities/platforms you’ve mentioned. My background is with adaptive EW, computer vision/ATR, tracking&fusion, autonomy, manned-umanned teaming, etc.

We have some amazing stuff, and I do believe we’re leading the world in cutting edge military R&D. But there’s a difference between what the MIC advertises to government customers in tailored demos * and test reports vs how everything works together in the real world across domains.

* not knocking our testing or demos. We have far more transparent and realistic testing than our adversaries, it’s not even close. But humans are human and like to put some polish on their work by putting it in the best light sometimes.

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If you read through the ODS AAR on Air Power, you see the real pk, CEP, and weapons effects percentages. Nothing is 100%, but it marked a dramatic departure from legacy dumb bomb strikes. Laser-Guided Bombs were introduced in Vietnam, actually first employed in Laos, dropped from F-4Ds. A lot more LGBs were used in SEA than people realize, but the majority of aircraft were not equipped to employ them.



We steadily scaled that capability into the 4th Gen fighters that were multirole, while it was baseline on the F-111F and immediately expanded into the A-6E, A-7D, and A-7E already in-service. F-16A had some initial Pave Penny LGB delivery capability, but wasn’t all-weather/night capable, so there was a push to develop those night/all-wx capes into the Viper with Block 40 F-16C.



F/A-18 had a lot of this capability as a planned baseline out of the gate, with the FLIR and ATFLIR pods and GBUs, and quickly got Anti-Radiation Missile strike capability for the USN SEAD mission, alongside EA-6Bs.

F-15E was envisioned out of the gate to have the F-111F night/all-wx capes, with a more modern airframe that was easier to maintain and capable of self-escort against potential air threats.



By the time ODS came along, there were enough TACAIR platforms in the total US Air component force structure to deliver a steady barrage of Laser-Guided Bombs at night in adverse weather. The F-111F was the most mature of those systems in ODS, and did an excellent job of eliminating Iraqi Air Force runways, taxiways, parked aircraft in hardened shelters, ammunition bunkers, POL bunkers, then once they serviced all those TGTs, switched to tank-plinking at night in kill boxes. They killed more tanks than A-10s did, in 1/4 the sorties.

Then there was of course the F-117A, which could go downtown inside the Iraqi IADS MEZ and drop 2000lb LGBs wherever it wanted at night.

All of that is really old tech compared to what we have now. We basically took all the best capabilities of all of those platforms, spread a baseline propulsion and sensor package across a single engine design with better stealth than the F-117A, better A2A capabilities than any F-15, better EW capabilities than the supporting EW birds, and started cranking them out en masse, distributing them across the theaters to partner nations, backed by regional USAF and USN forces in the same areas.

Nothing is 100% brochure-advertised, but sometimes the culmination of certain technologies backed by numerical superiority really yields an end-result that might as well be from 100% FMC systems.

So while we saw somewhere between 62-92% positive weapons effects in ODS, even if those numbers stayed the same, the rapid net-centric kill web campaign is still executed much faster than in ODS. And because of what we’ve done with sensors and guidance technology (making it more robust, more reliable, more redundant), the CEPs and pK have incrementally improved with demonstrable effects in the real world.

For small arms, it will be more important to focus on lightweight systems that base defense personnel can employ in the last line of defense against small drones, like what we saw just happen with Ukraine vs Russian strategic bomber bases. The M7 fits nowhere in that capability matrix, and we will see a thorough disinterest in it from USAF SP and base defense leadership, as well as AFSOC personnel who are attached to both conventional and SOF elements in the US Army and US Navy.

US Army should be thinking more along these lines, of how some dismounts assigned or attached to Air Defense, Long-Range Fires, Aviation, and EW units will provide a last-line defense against small FPV or autonomous algorithmic-targeted drones.

The days of US Infantrymen charging hills to take terrain will only be in COIN or JRDF deployments, not LSCO. This has already been true since Korea, so for the last 72 years.

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Rouge?

Like rogue, only prettier?

LRRPF52 said:

Notice the role of Infantry in these types of operations isn’t even a thing. For COIN and UW, totally different story.

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When and if a revolution is started in Iran, weapons will need dispersed to the rebels. Some will need training. This could require a limited amount of ground forces to augment Iranian rebels.

The Iranian leaders and military will not surrender because it will mean certain death when the rebels win. This could require infantry support sooner or later. Just who's infantry remains to be seen.

P-Squared said:

Did you pack his chute?...no. I thought you packed the chute. Oh well.

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It's not my job to pack his chute!

FYI: During WWII the SOE wanted to set up a ruse to convince the Germans that there were German operatives working within the German borders for the Allies.

To convince them of this; Operation Periwig was born. Here's an article on Periwig but it isn't the complete story. Read the article first then what I have to say after you're done.


In Leo Marks' book, "Between Silk and Cyanide" he writes about his part in Periwig. Mr. Marks was a cryptographer for the Birtish SOE.

He was tasked to come up with fake code books, onetime pads and other codes on silk handkerchiefs. As you know from reading the above article, fake radio traffic would be used to add to the deception. That fake traffic would also be encrypted but not so difficult for the Germans to decipher.

The icing on the cake was a German Officer named Schiller. He was held in a POW camp near Basingstroke, England. He was a double agent who initially worked for the Germans.

Apparently he grew bored with the life of a POW and offered to help the British in their espionage efforts in his Fatherland. The Brits, never to look down their noses at a favor, gladly accepted his offer.

Mr. Marks was to brief Herr Schiller on his use of codes. There were several that Schiller needed briefed on and a few of these were not unfamiliar with him as he used them before when working for the Germans.

Several hours were spent on Herr Schiller's training over tea and biscuits. Several days later, Schiller was scheduled to parachute into Germany with radio equipment and enough encryption material to disperse to other agents helping England.

Mr. Marks' performance was convincing enough because Herr Schiller was enthusiastic about his mission when the cryptographer left him.

Herr Schiller was found dead several days later by the Gestapo with all of his issued equipment. His parachute did not open.

The German section of the SOE started broadcasting fake encrypted messages to phantom agents in Germany within a day of Schiller's "accidental" death.

Lest anyone feel sorry for Schiller, remember that he compromised and caused the death of a lot of British agents when he worked for the Germans.

Parachute failure, although imaginative, isn't original.

DDGKunia said:

Anyone shooting 37xc out of an axmc or axsr ?

Curious on how you like it.

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My custom 37 xc reamer showed up last week. Once I get this barrel up and running, I will report back.

Love shooting the 33xc out of my AXSR…, well except the short barrel life

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lonegunman762x51 said:

Democrats are evil. Democrats as a group are the most racist, intolerant, self-loathing and cruel people on the planet. It will not be surprising to find out 90% of them are medicated with mind altering prescription drugs.

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The question is; was it the drugs that made them that way? Or did the drugs just take away empathy, logic, and accountability?

theLBC said:

if they have gpr that doesn't have to be on the ground...that would open up all kinds of secrets.

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Dude they totally have aerial GPR. That’s how the stuff under the pyramids was discovered. But we can’t seem to fully map Antarctica or find those nazi bases under the ice.

/sarc/