On the "budget" end compared to your $3k cap, id look at the S&B Klassik 3-12x42, or 2.5-10x56

I like the form factor of the 3-12x42, but the 2.5-10x56 is the no kidding winner for your low light scenario.

They were selling for $1300 from EuroOptics, but i think they are North of $1500 now.

IIRC the P3L is in improved Mildot with an illuminated center cross.

This thread is different from every thread about this topic I've seen on gun forums.

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Following, what magnification range do you want?

GuideDog said:

So you have your ammo hand picked all the time and pay the premium? Should the manufacturing be constant enough that the same brand provide similar results? Seems we are providing an opportunity for unnecessary additional testing just to get "matched" ammo. Ok so they cherry pick lots for you, right? There's no effort to provide better quality ammo, just a hand picked lot.

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There is a lot of effort to provide match ammo , its basically what separates likes of CCI from Lapua
Lot testing inhouse is done trough 5-6barrels , you can imagine those barrels are not same as what you might have in your barrel.

Lot testing for customer is what 50$ ? so hardly a huge expense. When i was using Eley i gave a gun to my dealer who took it to one of the test centers and it cost nothing . I just had to buy 5000rds of Tenex ,with Lapua i had a different situation as got to do lot testing for free ,but also drove to Schonebeck factory was given a tour and typicaly took couple of folks so we test 8-10rifles at a time.

Difference with Lapua you can test all of Lapua rimfire products and on an occasion or two i got the head honcho to do me a favor and rolled in lots of SK LRM ammo to test as well. Was quite interesting to so what gives between SK and Lapua


Real hand picked ammo was back in a day Russian Olymp-R made in 80's, basicaly QC was bunch of folk hand measuring everything possible and priming was done by hand . It was as close as you get to rimfire perfection. Old lots were hounded like they were platinum. Funny how far the QC goes , inside a box there is for example a tag ''female packer #3''
Some aspect of that design should be copied but many features can't due to legislative limitations

Here you have a dude shooting 30year old Soviet Era ammo to win an Olympic gold in 2012 London and set a new world record with an old Anschutz .
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Bullet that can seal the barrel very well due to deep expansion cut, primer that is perfectly positioned ,specific was lube etc , Federal copied the dimple ,SK added the bullet cut,,eley stole the ammo box but as long as business is going so well no new development will be implemented and Olyimp-R will stay unmatched as pinacle of .22LR amunition.

reelserious said:

You can learn a lot about your ammo by shooting groups from the bench with chrono running for each shot You can see the variations in ammo and the results pretty clearly

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The chrono is a great tool for this, especially with a .22.
It really helped when finding the tuner setting.

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Not according to the IP website which we all know is always super accurate!

The nice thing about SAC is the headspace comparator is chamfered to fit the shoulder and should give a more consistent measurement from case to case. Also if you buy the SAC funnel the headspace comparators are used in the funnel and fit very nicely on a sized case. Not too tight, but not loose either.

Disclaimer: I've never used the Derraco set so it may work just as well.

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The Ergon saddles have been my favorite for a few years. Current bike has the SM pro for daily riding. I have a SM Enduro that is slimmer at the back and gives you more freedom of movement.

I'm one of the oddballs that rides crank bros pedals. I swapped to them when I was still racing Enduros and I was able to get in and out of them faster and it's a combo pedal that has a flat section around the pedal for more foot support. I couldn't get the SPD compatible pedals to work similar to the Crank bros.

I am so ready to get some fall riding in..... Framers flaked on me, so me and the kid are doing it.