I found that even a 1:10 twist on an 18" barrel didn't stabilize boat tail subs. Shot the flat base sierra round nose 180-200+ grain bullets.

My guess is that if you shoot those you will be fine regardless.

A 1:8 may have more wind drift between supers/subs to account for. Similar to the issue with a 1:5 300Blk vs a 1:7. That being said, a 1:7 twist 300Blk doesn't have wind "spin" drift so you may be fine with a 1:8.

Not much of an answer, but bullet selection may be your friend.

For your situation I wouldn’t consider anything that’s less than 56mm.

Sold!

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At 75, that is the one thing that bothers me. I have no fear of death, I know there is eternal life, but I dont want to end up like that. I hope I either suffer a massive aortic failure (a quick, painless, lights out) or have the sense to put the 1911 in my mouth, before that happens.

Bumping this again.
Anyone mess around with 308 subs and still get decent accuracy with a short 1-10 twist barrel?. Maybe over thinking this but a custom barrels aren’t cheap so want to get it right.
I think most of the time I’ll be shooting 110s and 125s but definitely want to shoot some heavy subs.
Messing with a twist calculator I at least need a 1-8 twist for marginal stability using heavy subs out of a 12” barrel.

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918v said:

Yes, we can:

US Army ups ammo output with new 155mm loading, packing plant

The service can produce 40,000 monthly. The goal is 100,000.

www.armytimes.com

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Russia is at 250,000 monthly, @ 1/3 the cost per shell.

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Mr.BR said:

Colt Canada is just contracted scraper ,has nothing to do with government policies .

In Canada government buy back is being conducted trough firearms dealers ,so you could claim they all are in on it. While Colt US&Canada might be a bunch of cocksuckers that managed to run their business into the ground once the music stopped on their guns for bribes business model to US military . Just remember price of M4 to US military halved once FN got the job and Colt went bust not long after. CZ are furthest you could get from gun grabing commies. So this flack is quite undeserved.

Government is buying these firearms from businesses and these are buying them from general public. Colt-CZ is only the final destination where these end up in smelter since goverment discovered these so called assault firearms are of no interest to Ukraine as they are unsuitable

Canada has dropped plans to supply banned guns collected in its national buyback program to Ukraine after officials in Kyiv showed little interest, and most of the firearms turned out to be unsuitable for combat.
*few guns Ukraine will be taking i would bet money on will end up as rifles for some Ukrainians officials private collection not as service weapons ,as you can be certain there are some gems among the confiscated guns.

https://thedefensepost.com/2025/09/30/canada-firearms-ukraine/

End of the day any country that still bows to the British Royal family is going to take your guns away, will jail you for wrong speak ,debank you and will also be the first ones to stuff you into a digital gulag.

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"is just".....

right up there with "just following orders...."

ANYONE who's aiding and abetting this process is supporting the opposite of FREEDOM.

Simple as that. Do not pass 'Go', and do not collect 200 dollars.

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FatBoy said:

About to pop my cherry on a 6ARC. I do run and gun shit so absolute accuracy and MV is not as important as a package that shoots about MOA and is handy over 3-8 miles.

Pulling down my 14.5” intermediate gas upper and replacing with a Noveske Afghan 14.5, will have a P&W Surefire three prong and if I run a can it’ll be a 7.62 RC2.

Have some Duramags on the way as well as 4 different bullets, from 95gr to 107.

Leaving brass along a course is gonna suck,,, but I think this may be a little advantage in the DMR style R&Gs without going to the weight and recoil of a large frame. We’ll see..


If I like it, will probably wear a 4-16x42 ATACR eventually. Will start with either the G3 1-10 that’s on it now or I’ll move a 3-15 NXS F1 over, though that gonna be choncky with a red dot up top .

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Ended up not pulling down the other rifle. Had a Colt upper for a Mod1 and just used that a it’s riding my SBR lower, though but is a P&W.

Pulled the Noveske gas block and pinned a Superlative Arms on with their gas tube. Has the matched Noveske bolt.

Scope is an old NXS F1 with NP-R1 reticle. (God’s reticle, bring it back Nightforce!). Has a Balderknob front ring cap for Trijicon RMR and a Reptillia 10mm spacer to get over the elevation turret. I think this is going to work fine.

First outing was bad. Real bad. Like I was jamming 105BTHPs deep and it wouldn’t feed the first round. 80s ran like a top. 105s sucked ass. I think facing this receiver caused a tiny lip in the ramps that wasn’t noticed as the 80s ran so well, the extension was set back every so slightly, so barrel got pulled, milled and ramps polished. Hoping I have the ammo situation figured out. Thanks to @Ledzep for the assist.

I should be zero’ing tomorrow, and getting dope to at least 600. If it’s at least a 1.5 MOA rifle I’ll carry it for my DMR run and Gun the 18th. (I really hope it’s better than MOA). If not, I’ll probably run a mod0 or just a URGI.

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sirhrmechanic said:

Great timing on this… I’ve been looking at some vintage/antique Apple peelers on eBay. Mechanical hand crank.

Anyone use one or restored one? They are fascinating and really speed up pie-making season!!

Wondering if there are some better than others? If they really work well? Tips?

Sirhr

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We've been using this one from Lee Valley for almost 20 years:


The suction-cup base allows us to attach it to a cookie-sheet. This peeler works so well, that the biggest issue is the amount of juice that falls after a volume of fruit has been processed. The cookie-sheet contains it all.

Other ones/antique'er ones have the 'clamp' that attach to the side of a counter. That mess described above, a lot ends up on the floor. At least, that's how things work around here.

Planning to get mine shipped this week. They don’t make it as easy as it used to be.

GuideDog said:

So you have your ammo hand picked all the time and pay the premium? Should the manufacturing be constant enough that the same brand provide similar results? Seems we are providing an opportunity for unnecessary additional testing just to get "matched" ammo. Ok so they cherry pick lots for you, right? There's no effort to provide better quality ammo, just a hand picked lot.

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One more response to this and I'm out. OP has no clue. He seems to think "constant manufacturing" could produce the same consistency lot after lot, day in day out ad nauseam.

This perfect ammo would be manufactured with absolutely perfect powder, priming compound and bullets made from perfectly consistent lead placed by a perfect zero-tolerance process into perfect brass.

And that perfection happens lot after lot of each and every component, day after day, year after year and yields ammo with near-zero SD that shoots half-inch 10-shot 400-yard groups in a gale.

In which barrel? O right, we have absolutely perfect barrels that ARE ALL EXACTLY THE SAME no matter who makes it...
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Of course this is silly. If I want to chase perfect ammo, I can obsess without end over my centerfire handloads. I can buy absolutely the best brass and bullets and primers and powders and then tinker endlessly with every combination possible to see which one is best. And I find the PERFECT load. And it's PERFECT right up until I run out of one component or the other or the barrel wears and...

And OP's circle repeats... if manufacturing were better then we wouldn't have so much variation...

Pure fantasy.

Maybe this statement from OP explains a lot:
It's a conspiracy, man.

I'm out.