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This statement is why "but that's just how things are" is not an answer to a problem. It is indeed an era of rank greed, worse than the 1980s even. That does not mean such an attitude is best, or should continue.

People may try to argue that "it's always been this way" but I would happily argue against them. And win.

Profits are the keystone of capitalism.

Marine51, I would say this: you are correct, but if you do not accurately describe the process, and what you consider "profits," you are likely to excuse a lot of bad behavior under the shield of "but this makes us a profit."

When a business excuses bad behavior simply because that earns them more "profit," who pays the penalty? The customer who bought the bad item made cheaply for "profit," right?

Doesn't the corner-cutter business have the blame here, not the customer?

Also, while you may have assumed "shareholder interests" as paramount, what do you actually know about the history of corporations, shareholder rights, and corporate obligations to shareholders?

What is the role of the shareholder in a corporate structure? How can a shareholder know anything about the process of the business in which shareholder invested?


era of rank greed, worse than the 1980s even

Sounds like a line straight from the dem playbook. “Those evil Greedy corporations”

In my post above I stated: “Cutting corners for short-term gains is not conducive to long-term profits and company/corporate solvency. I can understand criticism of corporate CEO stupidity for making bad decisions that harm the long-term profitability of a company”

Shareholders are the owners of publicly traded companies (PTC’s). They can hire/fire CEO’s, elect board member, and take the company in a new direction at their discretion. Their number one goal is (should be) the long-term profitability of the company. If the CEO is taking the company in a wrong direction and sacrificing company solvency for short-term gains, then it is incumbent on Board of Directors (elected by the shareholders) to correct this.

How can a shareholder know anything about the process of the business in which shareholder invested?”

What? Would you give your hard-earned money to someone you don’t know or have confidence in?? If you blindly buy stocks in a corporation without doing due diligence research, it is your fault if you lose money.

(BTW, Sig Sauer is NOT a PTC. It is part of L&O Holding which is privately owned by a group of German investors).

“Doesn't the corner-cutter business have the blame here, not the customer?”

In a free market economy, the ultimate vote goes to the consumer. If the product is loosing quality and not meeting consumer needs, buyers go elsewhere. New competitive companies form, resources move to the new more competitive companies.

Now, regarding Sig Sauer, it appears there is a lot of grief from knowledgeable gun owners on this forum regarding the direction Cohen has taken the company. I agree with this. As I said in an above post, I love my old P239 and hate the new striker-fired polymer handguns. I will not buy another new SIG. THAT SAID, it appears there are millions of buyers for these handguns. The owners of Sig Sauer are not likely to change direction with this healthy demand for their product. And why should they ? Big gov contracts coming in and a steady consumer demand. I understand the frustration.
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The Norse actually carried cattle with them in their longboats... They had a number of cows at their settlement in L'Anse aux Meadow in Newfoundland.

It was what started the 'issues' with the Natives (which the Norse called Skralings). Things started off pretty good. But the Norse gave the Natives milk, thinking they would like it as a delicacy. But they were not used to milk and it made them all sick. And they thought they had been poisoned. So after that, they were rather relentless in attacking the settlement. To the point that the Norse said, in essence, screw this.

If it hadn't been for that milk, North America might have been settled in the 900's. And the world might be a really different place!

And I still love the term "Skralings." Really sums up the casino owners and the cheap tobacco shop proprietors well!

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. They weren't Vikings unless they were raiding. Viking is a job title, not an ethnicity. They were Norse... or Norsemen (Northmen.)

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Traveling with Handgun to Canada

I think the problem is in that form IF your have a restricted firearm (and all handguns are prohibited or restricted) than you also need the "Authorization to Transport" which is the REAL catch. This is how they bury us. In paperwork. Plus I also didn't know about guns in National Parks, so with my luck, I'd drive up, be totally honest when asked "Any Firearmds" because I declared my stuff at the border and am open an honest fellow: "Sure guy"

I kinda want to delete the thread, but there is good info on how to get your stuff into canda for matches and stuff, but for an casual carry enthusiast you are SOL.

I may just find an FFL in MT and mail my gun back to myself.
To complete the info in this thread, I attached the required ATT form.

"In the case of a restricted firearm (a handgun or rifle that is not prohibited), a Non-Resident Authorization to Transport (ATT) is also required and must also be obtained prior to your border crossing.

Please allow for 5 to 10 business days for processing. It is the responsibility of the applicant to ensure that enough processing time has been provided for the issuance of an ATT. Please complete the attached Application for a Non-resident Authorization To Transport and send the form:

By e-mail: [email protected]"

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OK,something else i don't get. why deportation of violent criminals? jet fuel is expensive. you can get 9mm FMJ for like $.12/r or way less if you buy a big bunch. sending criminals back to Venezuela,Mexico,Guatemala,ME,China would be fun to watch. let them trash the places that helped them come here. but still until the border is definitely secure they would just try to come back.
Where are you getting your 9mm for .12, I want in

So I'm seeing more and more short 308s in my neck of the woods seems odd

Stick the muzzle of an unsuppressed 26” rifle into a concrete culvert and touch one off. Then do the same with a suppressed 16” rifle and let me know which was less unpleasant.

Or shoot under a metal roof with either and let me know which makes you feel flash-banged after a few rounds.

PRS is fun, but there’s a few stage designs that kinda suck to shoot. I’m not saying I’d take a 16” rifle to a comp. But, suppressed guns are more pleasant to shoot with ears than unsuppressed rifles.

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They pickled the fish so it would last on long voyages with no refrigeration. That allowed them to extend the reach of their stealing, raping, and pillaging considerably.

The Norse actually carried cattle with them in their longboats... They had a number of cows at their settlement in L'Anse aux Meadow in Newfoundland.

It was what started the 'issues' with the Natives (which the Norse called Skralings). Things started off pretty good. But the Norse gave the Natives milk, thinking they would like it as a delicacy. But they were not used to milk and it made them all sick. And they thought they had been poisoned. So after that, they were rather relentless in attacking the settlement. To the point that the Norse said, in essence, screw this.

If it hadn't been for that milk, North America might have been settled in the 900's. And the world might be a really different place!

And I still love the term "Skralings." Really sums up the casino owners and the cheap tobacco shop proprietors well!

Cheers,

Sirhr

PS. They weren't Vikings unless they were raiding. Viking is a job title, not an ethnicity. They were Norse... or Norsemen (Northmen.)