hhudson said:

Looking to shoot more for my same ammo budget. I’ll be loading for a full size 1911, HK USP Compact in .45, and a 6 ARC gas gun.

Budget - Cheap but not junk. Not counting components around the $500 range if possible. I’m sure I’ll add/upgrade later. Not worried about reloading speed. Single stage is fine.

Let’s just start with 45 Auto and I’ll add 6 ARC as I get more experienced.

I bought a pound of HP-38 and 1000 Federal LPPs during covid but never got around to getting a press. It’s been kept room temp and dry so I assume it’s fine. I have 250 LPP mixed headstamp 45 brass and 250 PMC Bronze LPP once fired brass saved up. I plan to buy 1000 230 gr ball plated or FMJ bullets and load standard ~800-830 fps loads for paper and steel. That should sort components for now.

My cart is currently:

Lee Challenger press with a free .45 Auto die set. Is there a press significantly better in the $100 range? Link: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1027256656?pid=789024

Hornady M1 case tumbler, 7 lbs of corn cob media, and Hornady brass polish

Hornady One Shot Spray Case Lube

Lyman Chamfer/Deburr multi tool

Lee Powder Measure scoop kit

Lyman Pocket Touch 1500 Powder Scale with pan

Frankford Arsenal Platinum Perfect Seat Hand Priming Tool

22-45 Cal Lee Universal Powder Funnel

Lee Universal Decapping Die

2 MTM Universal Reloading Trays

Frankford Arsenal Inertial Bullet Puller

Hornady 12th Ed Reloading Manual (mainly for their 6 ARC data since they designed it)

This puts me at $465 with free shipping from Midway.

I have a couple pairs of digital calipers already.

Do I need a case trimmer? Powder trickler? Anything else?

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FWIW, I'd suggest you check out "www.titanreloading.com" and go with the Lee Six Pack Pro Kit in .45ACP. The kit comes with everything needed to load .45ACP. Just add powder, primers, cases and bullets and go. To switch to 6MM ARC you would just need another shell plate and 6mm ARC specific dies, same as for ANY caliber. Swapping out the plates and dies is a no-brainer. If you want to operate in "single-stage" mode, it can be done by just removing the index rod that actuates the turning of the shell plate. A 1911 can have a big appetite, as can a 6mm ARC gasser, which inevitably leads to a progressive press to crank out fodder. I recently set my son up with one so he could load 9mm, .45ACP & .223/556. I got the bullet feeder systems as well, works great for all the calibers.
Each pull of the handle will create a completed round (after the 5th casing). Many videos out on Youtube that can give you some valuable insights.

Titan's pricing is on par with majority, mostly lower in my experience. They ship fast and shipping cost is whatever the particular carrier charges (USPS, FedEx, UPS).

Edit: At a minimum you should get the following:
- Tumbler (I recommend a wet tumbler, like the Franklin Arsenal, uses wheel roller drive, no belts)
- Digital scale (the small pocket ones, usually comes with a pan) to measure & confirm the charges dropped by the powder measure.
-Lee universal decapper (optional) so you can just deprime your cases before tumbling, but not necessary as sizing die will decap.
-The Lyman multi tool, has LG & SM primer pocket scrapers and primer crimp removers (MIL cases) if you forego a tumbler
- LEE LONG CHARGING DIE (for when you start loading rifle cartridges. I prefer the long to get a better powder drop, rifle kits come with small)
-Lee bullet feeder kit (optional). They are caliber specific.
-Reloading manual

The Lee .45ACP kit comes with carbide sizing die so lubing not necessary, but rifle cases will need lube. You can make your own lube with pure lanolin & 90% isopropyl alcohol, 1:10 ratio in a spray bottle, will last forever, costs less.

Edit #2: For loading trays you can use the plastic ammo trays everyone throws away at the ranges after a session, if you aren't ashamed to pick it out of the trash bins. The .45 ACP trays will also hold the 6mm ARC cases.

Edit #3: NOTE: The Lee pistol kit uses the "powder thru die" that ALSO does the pistol case mouth expanding/belling to allow bullet seating. It CANNOT be used for rifle cases as the interior differs. The rifle powder thru charging die cone in short or long versions. I prefer the long to get a better drop AND better clearance from the other dies in the tool head.

I wish we could see their puts in real-time, like when they had their classified hearings on COVID pre-mass notification.

I wonder who we would see if we mined those cell records for the more senior members who made a killing in the market in 2020.

How do you think Congressmen communicate hot info with their brokers?

I wonder if it’s ETE encrypted text, which means NSA and big tech watches them in real-time. They do stupid things all the time because they know they have stay-out-of-jail-free cards, as long as they stay loyal to the club.

Remember when Mike Pompeo was making a big stink about having access to ETE with the tech giants, then went silent and stopped asking about the issue?

And the recent revelations that Congressional Dems were spying on Republicans’ cell and email communications using the Intel Community?

We started out my youngest son in the market after many conversations he had with me about which Airsoft he should buy, or should he get an eScooter with his birthday money. I explained opportunity costs with the silly toys, and that my current self would have told my 10yr-old self to invest all the birthday money instead.

“Investments? What’s that....?” I gave him a crash course in the market and he said, “Why hasn’t anyone told me about this before?"

My wife opened up a trading account for him and put all his birthday money into the Democrat Congressional Whales corruption insider trading index ETF, NANC.

Last I checked, it’s total value was up 71% since Feb 2023. Now it’s up 83.17%. The only problem is for day traders who want to short or make put strategies. The Congressrats aren’t required to report their earnings for 45 days, so you aren’t getting real-time insider info, but the ETF is diversified across multiple industries.

There’s one for Republicans too called GOP, last I checked they were 41% total market gain since Feb 2023, now they’re up 45.67% as of this hour/today.

He’s going to learn about politicians in a totally different way, LOL. It doesn’t get more realpolitik than that.

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BJames said:

Mine came out similarly. I had also applied some release agent to the part of the lug the action contacts. I cut away the excess material that bled on to the lug, came right off. I rolled with it, rifle shoots lights out.

Edited to add, mine was the same stock just under the mesa altitude name.

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Thanks. I’ll shave off the excess bedding on the recoil lug and shoot a group to see if it is good to go.

Once cleaned up, I think the bedding will look good. I read in other forums that’s guy recommend heating up the recoil lug and pulling it from the stock. Then, super glue the recoil lug to the action and properly bed it back into the stock.

The Pure Precision stock was good out the door, but I wanted to tighten up the group a little more. I almost consistently get a flier in every group, regardless of the ammo.

Ttt.

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Up, new price.

Copied from a FB post. But the math is pretty good here. My comments are in Brackets [ ]:

**** Begin post ****
So I saw CNN said 7 million protested for no Kings. Knowing the media I would say the numbers probably half that but let's give them the benefit of the doubt [and call it 7 million].

This is who you've been arguing with people... 2.12% [of our population]. That's pretty much our national average for mental health. For every hundred citizens 2.12 of them are batshit crazy. They vote for more crime, more racism more government overspending and more embezzlement. They vote for more chopping off of children's genitals, and more erasing history. This entire country has been gripped in chaos for almost a decade because of 2.12% of our population.

Their voices only magnified by social media and mainstream media. If These platforms [especially the mainstream media, which has for at least 40 years been a platform for socialism and destruction of America] were not biased, we wouldn't even notice them. It's not even a voice it's just noise.

*** End post.*

So as usual... a tiny vocal minority of crazoids and socialists and, these days, mentally ill faggots and trannies, are thinking that they can change the national agenda.

The 'Silent Majority' used to be what you'd call the 80/20 principle. But the reality these days is that it is th 98/02 principle. Where a tiny fraction of communist/socialist/fucktard agitators are trying to be a majority.

This is how the Russian monarchy fell. But it was something like .005 percent of the population that brought it all crashing down.

This is why we need to, not only ignore these idiots, but completely stomp this shit out in the mainstream discussion... as elements of influence. Hey, if 2.12 percent of the population want to scream at the moon and babble in tongues and go full batshit crazy???? Then they should be allowed to do that. It is the definition of a Republic. The minority is protected from the majority.

BUT they should NOT be making or even influencing policy. They should be allowed to do their retard shit with no comebacks or retribution. (Well, beyond laughter, ridicule and ignoring the fuck out of their 'tard behavior). But they should NOT be influencing policy or direction of anything that is to the general benefit of the majority. Moreover, they should not be catered-to. That means no special privliges, and no benefits. No saying "You are special." Just... Hey, noone is going to hurt you. But we are NOT putting up with your retard behavior. Or rewarding it. So deal with it. Or starve.

Some days, Math is useful.

Sirhr

wish i would have never sold my early NRC version scar 16. 2000-3000 rounds without a glitch. i know that not alot but it was gtg for me. just didnt care for the ergo's

arent the current reciprocation CH models problematic on reloads and releasing the bolt in a vertical position?

JR1200W3 said:

I've done that once with my 25 GT for one of these internet arguments. 30rd group. I'm taking this gun to a match on Saturday and it is cleaned, seasoned and zeroed and my ammo is loaded. I'm not going to shoot a 30 round group every time some dickweed on the internet wants to argue about sample size. The photos I posted(minus the positional test target) represent 35 rounds, shot in sequence over individual shot groups and over three visits to the range. I am pretty happy with my zero and the consistency of the guns accuracy. That's the point of all this. It's not just hypothesizing on the internet. It's about getting your gun and yourself ready to go do something with it. Now compare your work to mine. Who is more ready to do something meaningful?

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Dickweed? Alright lol. I did go out and do real world testing and posted my results, but guess I should've just kept it to myself. Good luck at your match this weekend.

supercorndogs said:

I have been told by people who claimed to be experts in AR building that gassing is quite important to accuracy.

I had a grendel I couldn't get to shoot using a heavey buffer spring and h3 buffer. I finally got it shooting by switching to a standard carbine spring, and turning the gas way back down.

I agree with the person who said adjust the gas as first step to tuning a rifle. Or best step, easiest step. You can make the widest adjustments. I just get click type adjustable blocks. Make life easy on myself.

If delayed unlocking made it easier on brass, especially gredle and arc case stuff. I could see a lot of people being interested.

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just from my casual shooting (not competition) i can agree. i've had over gassed scoped ar15's that were all over the place and once toned down with a BRT tube and/or a bleed off gas block, came back to acceptable levels for me.

i always figured it was the violent initial gas pulse throwing me off target.