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Rifle Scopes Seven Scopes with Issues or Something Else

Seems I have a scope issue times seven scopes. It also seems like this is a legit issue. So, with that said I have a question for you dudes. Has anyone else seen an impact shift when dropping the rifle on a bag and taking a shot?

What started all this was trying to get my build and break times down. I’d shoot five shots from five different positions for time trying to keep them all in the #1 diamond on the Kraft Target. When I went from high kneeling to standing I dropped the rifle on the bag from about 12” in a hatchet type movement pushing to make up time. Hand on grip, forearm approximately 12” above the bag and let the rifle drop angling down to the bag. I noticed the shot went low when I called it center diamond. I shot again to confirm and it was center. I thought that was weird so I repeated the process and first shot was low, second shot was center. My mind went into overtime knowing there was an issue, but what was causing it? My first thought was chassis. Swapped around with three chassis to no resolve. Ok, it’s a barrel issue, again three barrels with no resolve. So I texted a dude that likes to test stuff. He said nope never tested that or heard of it but I’ll look into it. Only one thing left to do swap scopes and see what’s up. The results are below and they speak for themselves. What say you?

Here is the process I used to confirm the results checking different scopes.

- All shots were from standing position.
- Held grip, the rifle is 12” above bag, release forearm and rifle falls onto bag.
- Fire first shot.
- Pan over to next target and fire second shot.
- Pick up rifle and repeat for a total of 5 shots per target/10 rounds total.

Here is the list of scopes tested:
- Gen 2 Razor 4.5-27
- Zero Compromise 4-20
- Nightforce NXS 5.5-22
- Gen 3 Razor 6-36
- Leupold MK4 Fixed 16x
- Gen 2 Razor 3-18
- Viper PST 5-25

Chassis that were tried early on to eliminate that thought:
- AIATX
- XLR Envy Pro
- Early XLR Envy

Barrels Tested to remove that thought:
- 26” Proof 6mm
- 26” Bartlien
- 26” Proof 6.5mm

The last thing I tried was dropping the rifle onto the bag dialing the scope up and down to remove any lash then return to zero and fire. It fixed nothing.

Will work for ammo….

@Lowlight feel free to move if this needs to be elsewhere.
Am I reading this correctly, the first shot after the "drop" is low but the second is POA? and this without adjusting the scope?
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Kidd Barrel Issues?

Ok guys go easy I am a new member lol. I have a similar issue with my build and I'm looking for input. I have a Kidd 18" threaded, bull barrel, not fluted that fit tight in a factory receiver. It has the BX trigger, its in a Magpul stock, and it's topped with a Diamondback 4-16x44. I am, IMO a decent shot and have especially shot a lot of 22LR stuff but it has all been in a factory Ruger American and this 10/22 before I succumbed to modifying it. After carefully installing the barrel and having a little fun I set down to do some real work and have so far tried Winchester 36gr, Aguilla 40gr, CCI mini mag 40gr, CCI mini mag36 gr, CCI standard velocity 40 gr, Federal Automatch 40gr and I also tried that CCI copper-22 21 gr for fun. Each ammo was shot from a rock solid prone at 50 yards and no wind. I shot each one approximately 5 groups of 4 shots and struggled to keep it under an inch. my best grouping was basically a tie between the Federal, the CCI Standard velocity and the CCI Mini mag 40 gr. Federal shot a 5/8" and the CCI shot a 3/8" but only once and the next group might be 1" or slightly more. I am aware that switching ammo effects accuracy and it was indeed visible in the first two groups after switching ammo. I am wondering what to do next. Should I try top notch ammo like Ely or Lapua or something? Besides the fact that Ely has such a wide variety of selections and I'd have no idea which one to try first, I hesitate to try expensive ammo because it seems like some others are getting far better accuracy out of similar rifles with the more basic ammos. I have a friend who has a some random semi auto 22 that I can't remember right now and all he did was put a heavy barrel in it and is getting groups that almost touch at 50 yrd with the same federal ammo I used. So guys what should I do...
As the OP, I switched to better quality ammo and it completely fixed my issue.

Accessories Badger ordnance m5 enhanced bottom metal

I have a badger ordinance m5 enhanced bottom metal for sale. Comes with pillars and action screws. I milled away some of the front of the barricade stop, to work with a rail that I was using with it. It doesn’t affect it. You can see in the pics. Looking to get 225 dollars shipped. Let me know. Thanks David.

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Accessories Area 419 14 inch arca rail with barricade stop

I have a used, but in very good shape. Area419 14” arca rail with barricade stop. The barricade stop is not removable. The screw hole that the front action screw goes in is drilled out. I didnt want that screw to tighten on the rail and action. The rail comes with 3 screws also. Looking to get 90 dollars shipped for it. Let me know. Thanks.

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Accessories WTS: AT-X AICS chassis w/ extras

For sale:

Accuracy International AT-X AICS chassis. Dark Earth. Has the thumb knobs on the stock adjustments. Fits Remington 700SA & clones. Great condition, has some wear on the forend from bipod attachment. Includes long forend bridge, MDT Elite grip, thumb rest, Bugholes bag rider, SAP two round holder, and 4x key slot weights each weighing 8 oz.

$1200 shipped

I accept discreet PayPal or Venmo (F&F ONLY)

Thanks for looking!

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Accuracy International AT-X

I paid $4,500 for my gen 3 ES AT-X. No way am I considering taking a loss to move it, and in no way do I consider the upgrades to the new ones worth the extra scratch.

I like my rifle, but I'm one and done with owning an AI. Great stuff, but not enough benefits *to me* to outweigh the drawbacks. YMMV.

It was something that I wanted for 20 years though, and I'm still tickled that I was able to get it.

For those of you with money in the banks

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Junk mail. Experts come on in, please.

About two years ago I began to get a lot of junk mail. I mean A LOT. I get several hundred junk mails a day in my iCloud box and probably 25+ in a Comcast account. I never received so much junk mail prior. I've had the Comcast account for over 20 years and the iCloud account since Apple began their email service when it was @me.com.

Is there anyway to get it to stop?

Most of it gets sent to the junk mail folders but I'm a little OCD and need to empty my emails of all emails I've either read or don't need any longer or are just junk mail. My wife on the other hand usually has 1,000 plus unread emails in her iPhone icon. It drives me nuts. 🥸
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They can identify you from video of your iris

We used iris scanning 16 years ago in Iraq. It's been around a while, and is as unique as a fingerprint..

That being said, you need a very clear and close shot of the iris to make this work...ain't happening from cell phones or security cameras from yards away.

Facial recognition software I have no idea where we're at with that stuff, so hopefully somebody else can chime in.

100% though that our gub'ment isn't going to actually share the technology they have for domestic spying (I mean "national security").