Latest activity
Kahles vz ZCO
- By CSTactical
- Observation & Sighting Devices
- 175 Replies
Just so everyone knows, these non-public ZCO failures on big magnum that I hear about are not from @wooferocau. I tagged him because he had some ZCO issues that I can’t remember if he’s ever explicitly detailed. I don’t know exactly what they were, or I’ve forgotten lol. He’s just one of the few who’s put his name on a report. He’s had lots of issues with certain S&B models too, but other S&B’s seem to work fine.
But let’s set aside Mr. Woof…I probably shouldn’t have even brought up his name as some try to discredit ALL ZCO problem reports by alluding to his history on the matter.
Anyway, like @kthomas has heard, there are a few people quietly talking. But the fallout has been apparently and largely mitigated due to:
As in, dudes don’t want to publicly complain as that might impact their close relationship with the manufacturer or rep in the future. What if they complain publicly and the scope fails again? Will they be taken care of in the same manner?
- ZCO’s excellent customer service (replacement, quick turnaround, etc)
- few people can afford these scopes who then generate necessarily few reports
- and the fact that quite a few owner dudes have a complicated interpersonal arrangement with equipment manufacturers (not just ZCO).
As someone wholly outside that space, I’m just passing info along so people realize what they see might be artificially rose-colored. Thisphenomenon occurs across all brands but especially in low-volume luxury niche ones.
Also happens with gunsmiths! Like when you find out that the most-excellent ‘smith who is talked up ad nauseam on the forums turns out to be a total putz.
Yeah I know of another very vocal person on this matter who is now gone, he also threatened legal action out of nowhere when we didn't even sell him the scope. So screw that noise...
Here's what I recommend, if they don't want to post it publicly than maybe it should not be posted publicly by someone else. Unfortunately, there are many people who have no morals in this industry and have a hidden or not so hidden agenda. We can go round and round all day on who said what and it really does not matter much. But there is a reason that manufacturers chose not to engage on the hide due to complaints that may or may not be their fault. @Lowlight and this community does not benefit from speculation from some anonymous source and we lose as a community when manufacturers decide it's too much of a headache to be here. The hide is great to share information and knowledge with some debauchery in the Bear Pit. But let's not be an echo chamber on information that might not even be good information.
Let's be adults and try to have a better signal to noise ratio.
Richard
PortaJohn
- By HPIguy
- The Bear Pit
- 148790 Replies
So you can do that shit in Atlanta, but two hours north, my two day Prime delivery takes a week. Slackers.
He should hang, right next to Fauci, in Times Square, and put that shit on TV during prime time.
Can we talk shooting technique?
- By Longshot231
- Semi-Automatic Rifles
- 29 Replies
A lot of it comes down to what you are comfortable with. I also have some precision ARs but as long as I have been shooting, I still try to perfect my technique.
One position that I have not been able to adapt to is the "preferred" prone position behind a precision rifle on a bipod. That's the technique in which the shooter is squared up on the rifle. This is the best illustration that I could find. I cannot get into that position without feeling like it's putting a strain on my entire body.
I shot a lot of high-power competition with M-1 Garand and 1903 Springfield rifles. So this is the prone position that I am comfortable with, even when shooting a chassis equipped rifle off of a bipod. So if I'm helping someone new to precision rifles, I have to tell them my problem with muscle memory and to experiment with what works for them.
As for my non-trigger hand, I use it to squeeze the rear bag for elevation adjustments. With the trigger hand, I put the thumb on the same side. It is not wrapped around the grip. I do pull straight back on the grip a little to keep constant pressure of the buttstock on my shoulder.
Within the last few years, I've altered my breathing technique. It use to be recommend practice to take a deep breath, let half of it out then hold it. I stopped doing that and have a slow relaxed breathing rate. I keep breathing. That way my heart doesn't go up.
I also changed my scope rings on the chassis rifles to either high or extra high. The long held theory was to have your scope as close to the barrel as possible. However, that puts too much strain on the neck, trying to get the head in position.
So with the high or extra high rings, the problem with cheek weld is eliminated by raising the cheek piece to get the eye aligned with the scope. With AR-15 rifles, the cantilever scope mount gets the scope up high anyway. My buttstocks on the AR-15s have adjustable cheek pieces.
One position that I have not been able to adapt to is the "preferred" prone position behind a precision rifle on a bipod. That's the technique in which the shooter is squared up on the rifle. This is the best illustration that I could find. I cannot get into that position without feeling like it's putting a strain on my entire body.
I shot a lot of high-power competition with M-1 Garand and 1903 Springfield rifles. So this is the prone position that I am comfortable with, even when shooting a chassis equipped rifle off of a bipod. So if I'm helping someone new to precision rifles, I have to tell them my problem with muscle memory and to experiment with what works for them.
As for my non-trigger hand, I use it to squeeze the rear bag for elevation adjustments. With the trigger hand, I put the thumb on the same side. It is not wrapped around the grip. I do pull straight back on the grip a little to keep constant pressure of the buttstock on my shoulder.
Within the last few years, I've altered my breathing technique. It use to be recommend practice to take a deep breath, let half of it out then hold it. I stopped doing that and have a slow relaxed breathing rate. I keep breathing. That way my heart doesn't go up.
I also changed my scope rings on the chassis rifles to either high or extra high. The long held theory was to have your scope as close to the barrel as possible. However, that puts too much strain on the neck, trying to get the head in position.
So with the high or extra high rings, the problem with cheek weld is eliminated by raising the cheek piece to get the eye aligned with the scope. With AR-15 rifles, the cantilever scope mount gets the scope up high anyway. My buttstocks on the AR-15s have adjustable cheek pieces.
Kahles vz ZCO
- By wooferocau
- Observation & Sighting Devices
- 175 Replies
Yep ...had lots of issues with the NEW series from S&B ( i had some of the very first samples released of the 6-36 and 10-60,s) .. BUT !!! The support from S&B in Germany has been beyond reproach !!!
I have been dealing directly with them and couldn't of ask for better support!!
This..... is in the end what counts ... particularly with optics..
DOGE finds Treasury Dept loses 1 Billion dollars a week to fraud and corruption: Deep State Judge blocks exposure
- By Longshot231
- The Bear Pit
- 785 Replies
Not only are they RINOs but also large scale grifters.
6 Dasher with 109gr Berger Hybrids
- By LA260
- Reloading Depot
- 16 Replies
28" 1/7.5 Ace 200 rounds
Alpha Virgin Brass tumbled in corn cub/Chamfer/Deburr
Berger 109/CCI450
(0.060) off the lands 1.787 Ogive/2.392 ish COAL
6 shots
Alpha Virgin Brass tumbled in corn cub/Chamfer/Deburr
Berger 109/CCI450
(0.060) off the lands 1.787 Ogive/2.392 ish COAL
6 shots
