bfoosh006 said:

I would be willing to bet , a lot of it is poor ammo choices.

I remember sitting next to a guy shooting a 16" SCAR 5.56, Fancy expensive scope, expensive bench bags , etc.... after every shot, he would readjust his scope.
Perplexed, I watched him, readjust EVERY time.
20 shots later, he sigh's visibly, and Me, being nosy, I asked "Why" are you adjusting after every shot....

He says he is sighting it in ?!

And he can't get it to group or hit the POA !

I look at the ammo... cheap Winc. M855 ball.

I explained, that ammo will probably never shoot respectable consistent groups smaller than 5 MOA... and he says, his rifle , For what he paid for it, should shoot ALL ammo great.

I tried to explain, that he should consider better ammo, instead of trying to achieve "expected" precision from the Winc. Ball.


Another guy, when the 6.5CM first came out.... was shooting at the other end of the bench line.

Seeing the 6.5CM for the first time, I Spied on his groupings. They were absolute poop.
He would cool down the barrel after every shoot... for about 2 mins.

I had to go watch "why" ?

Getting closer, his scopes rings were half off the mounts.

I mentioned that wasn't "right" and I have the tools to change it easily.

He said his "Gunsmith" assembled it and was sure it was fine.

I said, that will never group right / properly until the rings are correctly mounted.

He says, it will be fine... and continues shooting like poop, every 2 mins.

Ok then...

About a month later, I see him again, This time with the scope mounted properly... groups are GTG.
He come over and tells me, He actually mounted the scope wrong the first time, but was to embarrassed to admit it.

I mention that one because, sometimes peoples pride gets in the way of itself.

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DownhillFromHere said:

Somewhere way, way back in this thread (or maybe others) I recall @RAVAGE88 saying that his research shows an advantage to twist rates faster than standard 1:16 but realizing that advantage can take more than just swapping barrels. Certainly there are anecdotes in this forum of people screwing on such barrels and seeing mediocre to abysmal results (especially with twists greater than 1:13)... others report improvement.

That's the entirety of basis for the statement - something I remember Mike saying quite awhile back.

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JR_77 said:

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AllenOne1 said:

You must not remember the Carter years very well. Everything Carter touched turned to shit. If he had declared war on Iran we would be flying the Iranian flag over here now.

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flogxal said:

I am ignorant on any cars made this century -- what is that? Looks Lotus-ish to my old eye. Is the distance from seat to rear axle farther than seat to front axle?

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Rudy Gonsior said:

Alright, quick update since I have gotten a few inquiries.

1. “New” LPR - there is an “ICAR” variance of the LPR that is under consideration. As I have mentioned before here and in other threads, the preliminary testing of adaptating the current LPR to 6 ARC has supported our antidotal experiences from watching students, which is that cartridges like the 6 ARC can technically function within the confines of the “standard” AR15 receiver dimensions but at the cost of reliability/longevity of parts.

So to do 6 ARC properly, it really requires an intermediate action like the ICAR which is going to take some time. The good news with that is it will allow for integration for things like full ambi controls () that people want, as well as some enhancements that will make our lives easier on the manufacturing side. No ETA as of right now as this and the large frame have taken a back seat to the two following items.

2. The RDM4 - As alluded to in the past we are producing a TDP spec rifle that utilizes forged upper/lower receivers. The goal here is to bring some of the hand guard improvements we developed in the LPR but at a more cost effective price point and parts that will more readily interface with standard AR15s. Additionally we have been working hard on being able to offer a new line of barrels that support increased barrel life while maintaining accuracy under heavier firing schedules. This last part has been a process that has taken quite a bit of effort but in my opinion is going to lay the groundwork for some interesting opportunities.

This line will include complete rifles/uppers but also hand guards system as well. ETA is September 2025.

3. Current inventory shortages - We are pretty much not in stock for anything at the moment because manufacturing is under way to a new location. We’ve learned some things over the last two years in manufacturing and we are making some strides forward to streamlining efficiency of development and manufacturing timelines. We kinda tried to time this for the summer since it is the historical slow season in the industry. ETA is September to be back on track.

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flogxal said:

Never driven a Miata. But they are low low low, and seem to have wide stance for WB. That spells slot car handling to me, flat with little pitch/roll/yaw vs many other factory cars at that price/power. I bet a hopped up one is crazy fun if you have the skills and reflexes.

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Salmon Exceptional Ape said:

I'm not too new to reloading but only really getting serious into rifle this year. If I were to read the forums, here and elsewhere, it would seem that the method to work up a load is to start in the middle of the data and then work up until your gun starts doing fucked up things to your brass. What's the deal with this advice? It clearly ignores the measured pressure limits, it's likely not going to blow up your gun but it will reduce brass and barrel life and likely reduce your precision. Is it just the natural tendency for monkeys to max things out to the point that they break? Why don't people just go to a larger cartridge if they want to stuff too much powder in? What am I missing?

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