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Suppressor with a brake on it, does it help or not?

Hecouldgoalltheway
Zak Smith said:
Yes, you are reading it wrong.

ETA-- you are dividing 65 vs 15 and turning into a percent and calling that reduction. That's not how any of that math works. What you are reading as "65" and "15" are the percent reductions in recoil energy from a bare muzzle (per the legend on the left). If Sams is selling brats for 65% off and Target is selling them for 15% off you don't say that Sams has "433% reduction" in anything. Does not make sense.

Also you said "brake under the can" when this whole thread is about external brakes at the exit end of the suppressor.
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Tell me you don't understand the chart you shared without telling me that you don't understand it. A 15% reduction in recoil and a 65% reduction in recoil would be a factor of 4.3, or 433% as I originally stated. If a person pulls the trigger and has a 15% reduction, followed by adding a brake to the end of the can and getting a 65% reduction by adding the brake, then that would mean the reduction is 4.3x the non-brake vs the brake. Again, thats a load of shit.

Either neither of us are reading it correctly, or it's bullshit.
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House Budget Proposal to remove Tax on Suppressors but not remove it from the NFA

Longshot231
doubloon said:
Maybe there's a disconnect here.

The "they/them" being suppressors, SB-things or whatever.

I'm not saying they should be taxed, because I don't think they should.

I'm not saying they should be registered, because I don't think they should.

But I am saying they're currently taxed and registered because that's the current law.

And I am saying short of removing them from the NFA it will always be the law to register them.

It's a budget bill so that's all they're allowed to change, unless they can sneak or negotiate it in, is budget and tax stuph.
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We could be talking past each other.

1) I don't like the fact that they've left the registration part in the BBB.
2) The Parliamentarian can be ignored or fired.
3) The registration part can be taken out because the Parliamentarian is in an advisory capacity and serves at the pleasure of the Leader of the Senate.
4) JD Vance, as President of the Senate can override the Parliamentarian and put the HPA and the SHORT act as well as other amendments back in the BBB.
5) All of the above can be accomplished if people take a few minutes to call or email their congress critters. I have low patience for people that bitch but don't bother to make the calls or vote. They do nothing but drag the rest of us down.
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Short Barrel Ranch Rifle Cartridge Choice

SkyScrapin
Old Man with Gun said:
Going short, factory ammo and limited to 400yds, it is hard to beat a 308.
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This right here.

Have round the gantlet of shorties and the 308w gives best velocity and weight ratio. 155 hybrids are ideal to pick-up some speed, but still get best powder burn.

If you're not reloading, T308T.
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Short Barrel Ranch Rifle Cartridge Choice

XP1K
Is the 243 toast or is it just time for a change ? A 243 shooting something in the 70-85gr range really sounds pretty ideal for what you're doing.

For years a 22-250 shooting 55gr core-lokts was my daily truck/tractor/four wheeler rifle. Im on the 6mm kick now though ever since my foray into the 243AI. Toasted that one shooting 55's at 4k plus. There's a soon to be dasher barrel in my lathe right now. It'll be finished just shy of 22"
The plan for it is 70-95gr bullets at the moment.

A short 308 is pretty good all the way around. I had a 16" that I traded. Wish I had it back. My current 308 bolt gun is a 20"
With a can inside a truck it's a little unwieldy. A 7-08 finished at 18" shooting 120's would probably fit the bill nicely.

All that said given the choices you listed I'd go 6 creed. Decent factory offerings. I'd probably shoot the eld-vt.
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Suppressors and SBRs out of reconciliation bill

DarnYankeeUSMC
Holliday said:
See, this is the of lame brain cuck/simp brain-matter attitudes gun owners bring to the fight. Don’t feel singled out guys because you are so fucking common in the gun community, it is not even funny.

We look out at the battlefield and declare the battle over before the fight has even begun. Then, when we lose the fight, we can sit back and pontificate about how we knew all the time we were going lose, claiming some sage position.

The dichotomy of being within a demographic that is purportedly tactical, tough guy, masculine, guns, outdoors, self-reliant, hunting, and watching them behave economically and politically like little girls, is one of the saddest experiences of my life.

Studies have shown that if you believe someone has pissed in your cornflakes, it will actually taste like piss……

Congratulations you have leveled up to “Guru”.
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Is this where you send out invites to your militia get together?
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The Guv'ment model .45 finally got a medal...

TresMon
I just pulled the following out of thin air, in a text, to a competitive pistol shooting friend. No joke.




Did you hear that they have redesignated the military sidearm formally know as the

"Colt 1911A1"

Government model pistol... & accordingly, it's classic chambering:

45 ACP
(A.utomatic C.olt
P.istol) cartridge?

Yep.

It's the first weapon in the history of the US DOD weapons arsenal to receive a human'like military service medal of sorts, after (both sidearm and cartridge) has served faithfully for over 100+ years in both military war time & peace, law enforcement, competitive pistol shooting in all conceivable forms & loved as well as relied upon by millions of Americans for personal defense... & last but not least, countless recreational shooters, world wide.???

Yep-

The pistol is now redesignated/ called the:

"19'AARP"

and the cartridge, is now the:

" .45 ASSDEPO. "

ASSDEPO being the official acronym that stands for:

Automatic
Soc. Sec.
Dissability
Entitlment
Pay
Out

[after gran'pa caught your punk self in his shed at 0245 tryna steal his lawn mower; him accordingly following his 'drafted into 'Nam training protocol:

B.R.A.S.S,911.

For the uniformed, "BRASS" is the old school USMC shooting acronym:

B.reath

(while)R.elease(-ing)

A.im

S.queeze

S.hoot.

Let's have a round for such a faithful, long serving veteran of these United States, now formally & correctly honored & decorated!

Cheers!
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Long gong

lash
King_beardsly said:
So my first attempt at long gong ended up with me getting second place with a score of 76, which should have been a win but the guy scoring thinks he messed up one of my strings. I would have fought it but the guy who got first place shot a 77 and left early, so even I just bumped up a just a point to a tie he couldn’t shoot the tie breaker and I’m not that kinda person.
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Good shooting. Were there wind flags on your course?
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SOLD Artcise AS95C Tripod and ball head

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I used this tripod for 1 season and it is still in great shape. It has some small marks here and there but nothing major. It has the large 40mm legs and 75mm bowl. It will come with the larger 55mm ball head that is rock solid and most if not everything it comes with new. I will also included the FEHU tripod chaps and a extra set of brand new unused legs if u will pay asking price and shipping. Asking 325 shipped
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Short Barrel Ranch Rifle Cartridge Choice

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20” 6.5 CM shooting factory Hornady 100 ELD VT has been amazing for me in a similar role. Over 50 pigs with it so far this year, up to 400lbs, and if hit above diaphragm they typically drop. Had one run 60m. A few deer and some coyotes with it as well. I’m getting 3100 fps out of my proof carbon barrel.
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Long gong

King_beardsly
So my first attempt at long gong ended up with me getting second place with a score of 76, which should have been a win but the guy scoring thinks he messed up one of my strings. I would have fought it but the guy who got first place shot a 77 and left early, so even I just bumped up a just a point to a tie he couldn’t shoot the tie breaker and I’m not that kinda person.
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