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Rifle Scopes Top tier scope recommendation

91Eunozs
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JayOpticspecialist said:
small world, I'm thinking about a scope for my 280AI this season myself. what load are you shooting? mine likes the factory 160 gr nosler partitions, but i might work up a load with the Barnes TTSX, i keep hearing the 140 gr is the sweet spot for the 280ai. I'm still on the fence about the scope I want to put on there. I'm hunting big whitetail and hopefully elk in the near future. I'm looking at more of a mid range scope, my shots are 200-600 yards, and low light is always a factor. I'll post a couple i've been thinking about below. As for Schmidt and Bender, I have a 1.5-8x42 on my 30.06 browning blr, and I like it, schmidt has some awesome glass, but things are kind of in flux for them right now from my perspective, so personally i'm going to wait and see what happens before i invest in another schmidt. to my eye, i like the zco better than the TT, but different strokes.



in no real order, I like to shoot moa scopes when i'm hunting and mil if i'm taking a class or if i get lucky and am able to shoot a match, I can use either system well enough to speak to it.


https://cstactical.com/swarovski-z8i-3-5-28x50-4w-i-68406/

I have a 3-18x50 z6i on my 300 win mag, and I feel it's a great all around rifle/scope, sure 300 wm is large for some applications, but I've become very proficient with it, and I have a custom ballistic turret so it's a no brainer when it comes to distance shots. I like the reticle, I had a tiny bit of input when it was being developed, and it matches the custom ballistic turret. I feel this is the next iteration of that scope, the weight is good and it has enough adjustment to do what i need to with it. only drawback is it's second focal, but I personally don't mind it for hunting applications. it's got a 30mm tube and is one of the lighter scopes of the one's I'm thinking about, which could become a larger factor to consider if I start hunting in tougher terrain and in mountains.


Optically this scope is top tier and i like everything about it. playing with one in low light I was very impressed. the 36mm tube is a little large, but the optical performance alone makes this a big contender for me. close range I feel you could get on target and i felt I could do well if i had to make a quick shot with the scope on low magnification. I like the way the turrets felt, the parallax, and viewing at distance was a no brainer


I shot an nxs 5.5-22x56 moar for a long time, really enjoyed it, shot it a lot and killed a few deer with it. this is a step way up from that scope, and gives better performance on the low end in case there is a close shot and better optical performance. I've always been impressed with these scopes, ever since I saw the first one years ago. could get a custom turret for it, I'm familiar and comfortable with these scopes, and I like the reticle having used it a good bit already.


I'm trying to get my hands on one of these, I had an older victory diavari 3-12x56 on a rifle I sold a few years ago out of necessity and I really like it, i'd be interested to see one of these new scopes in action and looking at specifications alone, seems like it could be a really interesting option.


for my purposes, i also looked at the lht https://cstactical.com/vortex-razor-lht-4-5-22x50-ffp-xlr-2-moa-rzr-42201/ I've got several buddies and customer's using the lht scopes, and I have one on a 270, I've been very pleased with mine. haven't killed anything with it yet, but that's my fault, not the rifles.
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Same, factory 160s (or whatever that white-tipped ammo is) is the only ammo I’ve shot anything other than paper with (several pigs and a couple deer), but looking at other bullets to work up some loads as soon as I can find some time.

Edit: I am looking forward to trying out these 168 Bergers though…wondering how it’ll perform compared vs. my favorite 168gr load in .308

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Ran an older Leupy that was on this receiver when it had its original 30-06 barrel for awhile, but currently have a Zeiss 5-25 on there:

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I also prefer MOA for hunting.

5-25(ish) is honestly plenty for my needs, but this rifle is capable of much longer shots than I typically take and it’d be nice to have the right glass to stretch its legs…and my eyes ain’t what they used to be either, so I’ll take all the help I can get! LoL
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Low Recoil AR Load

N_Turs
Snuby642 said:
If you go to the trouble of setting up your dillon, gathering all the gear etc. time and effort why the hell would you settle for a lackidasical load.

52g (Speer) flat base otm are easy to get running sub moa on your dillon. Same with Bob's 55g bulk bullets, but they are easier to hold onto and start in the case mouth.

H335 will give you quick joy.

Go to the square end of the range with benches and some sand bags. You will be lucky to see better than 2 moa out of your PMC with a set up for 3 gun.

Your custom 52 / 55's should get to 1 moa. Can use those for all your comp including the 200 yard tie breaker type shots.

If recoil is a problem get a better muzzle device.
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I still would like to maintain some accuracy, but most of the matches I shoot rarely even go beyond 100 yards. I did get around to shooting some of my tester rounds two weekends ago. ES was pretty crazy on those but the accuracy seemed ok. I'll be loading up some more tester rounds to try this weekend.
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Ridgeline Defense RD-15 LPR

Rudy Gonsior
Jsp556 said:
If you’re redesigning the entire platform to include strengthening the bolt, I’m in.

ETA: I hope y’all go with nitride treated cut rifled barrels.
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Yes this is one of the failures points of the 6ARC that needs to be addressed. There’s been pretty substantial improvements made in materials but truthfully I think it simply asking to much for long term reliability especially with consideration for HP cartridges that are on the horizon.
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What would be a slight step up from .

koshkin
DeathBeforeDismount said:
Dude this is not the hill to die on.

There are plenty of things I disagree with on (sorry brother your reticles suck) with Ilya and I think he misses the target sometimes but the dude is probably the most respected optical engineer and SME in the community. No one has the understanding he does while trying to translate that information in a digestible format for users.

I agree with you about the Chinese garbage and no name fly by night companies all buying shit from the same OEMs, but even when hes wrong he can still teach you a ton of knowledge along the way. If anything, you should just show the man some respect and if you disagree at least due it in a civil manner. He is not like the other mouth breathers around here.
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It would be a boring world if everyone always agreed on anything.

The catch with new companies is that it is very hard to determine who is a "fly by night" company trying to make a quick buck off of cheap Chinese OEM'ed scope and who is trying to do the right thing and grow into a serious player.

The guys behind Telson bought a local Canadian brand called Scorpion Outdoors that already had some scopes and decided to take the optics a bit further upmarket, since they are shooters. That's how the Telson brand came about. They were dumping money and effort into it for a couple of years before the first Telson product hit the market. The riflescope line-up, for now, is four models, two are Japanese ($1500 to $2000) and two are Chinese ($900 to $1300). Nobody knows if the company is going to be around long term, but they seem pretty determined.

The interesting part is that the industry overall is in a bit of a slump right now. I suspect some brands will not make it out of it, but the ones who do will be be in very good shape as things pick up. Some growing companies are really well positioned to make it out of a slump and grow since they are well capitalized and have a maturing product line. Primary Arms is probably the best example of that, but there are others.

The first half of 2026 is likely to be a run on suppressors and I have a suspicion that the riflescope part of the market will really start picking up just after that.

ILya
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Ridgeline Defense RD-15 LPR

Rudy Gonsior
Bigjake83 said:
I was just giving Rudy some friendly shit.

The truth is Geissele's CHF Chrome Lined barrels have been delivering exceptional and consistent results, kinda like the Milk Man was about 9 months before @DeathBeforeDismount was born 😁

I'm sure Rudy and the people at Ridgeline have seen thier fare share of Geissele rifles go down during thier classes, but I can guarantee you it wasn't due to the barrels themselves but to the inherent complexities of Gas Guns and thier plethora of imperfections and a huge amount of operator error.
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I actually haven’t seen too many Geissele rifles come through, but I only teach occasional now. All together though what I’ve seen has been pretty good in regards to barrel performance/reliability.
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Rifle Scopes Top tier scope recommendation

Midpack
91Eunozs said:
Honest question because I have almost zero experience even eyeballing them, let alone shooting with them, but has ZCO finally surpassed TT for top dog Alpha scope?

I have a couple S&B scopes and LOVE them, as well as a couple mid-tier Nightforce, one Swarovski and one Zeiss scope, plus quite a few Leupolds for comparison, but finally looking for new glass for my 280AI. I’m leaning towards another S&B (probably a 6-36), but wondering about current thoughts on the latest offerings from ZCO and TT.
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You're going to get many different answers to that question. Ultimately they are so close that really it comes down to the individuals eyes and what features guys prioritize. For me my eyes prefer the colors /coatings on the tt more but the zco aren't holding anything back, just personal preference. Alot of guys the two are splitting hairs but zco being cheaper, especially on the used market, you're seeing more guys lean that way....doesn't hurt that they have better reticles (had to throw in a bit of personal bias 😂)
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Threadcutter308 said:
Don't mis-understand, I'm in agreement with what they are trying to do. And in particular, the reason why.

However, this new policy can be viewed as being "discriminatory". It does wander out of the lane of being merely a "competency" test and can (will) be interpreted by liberals as attempting to keep people out of these positions because they have "beliefs" that differ from those that are doing the hiring. This has "Supreme Court" written all over it.

The liberals have been pulling this same shit for decades. They have (had) been successful because they never made their intentions public (by passing laws that were visible to the public). The conservatives ought to just keep quiet about it and do the same thing (in reverse).
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No, I understood you weren't saying you were against it, and everything you wrote here is true. They will have to be very careful how they administer whatever standards are chosen for the test, but it is do-able, and the leftists will certainly attack it with everything they have.
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