yeah, okay but I'm not doing case volumes with water for 20 cases so I can make a comment on this board. AND, I would have to put primers into the Lapua which I don't want to do. If I did it right, I would make sure they were all trimmed to the same length - wot I am not doing either

Funny thing, the Lake City was just annealed and sized so the outside dimensions are essentially identical. I can't say the same for the Lapua. When you start to think about comparisons things get complicated pretty fast. Same thing I said earlier about pressures.