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MikeMiller · May 16, 2025

Secant said:
My point being that I understand very limited # of the Fury ABs will be sold looking into the future, so I can appreciate why AB would not want to take the time to support that platform. Even though I would image there are more than a few on the market and I think many/most owners would appreciate the simplicity of managing fewer apps across the board.

Also, I have no insight, but have heard the anticipated BLRFs from Vortex will (hopefully) include Razor glass. I would expect that the new Geoballistic BLRF would/could cost more than the Fury 5000 if that's the case.

Well I have no dog in the fight between Vortex and AB. With AB no longer supporting Vortex products except this. When I received my Vortex products with AB in them they were legally licensed through AB. Now that Vortex has purchased Geo Ballistics AB has decided to not support the previously purchased AB licensed Vortex products. I believe AB should support every product they licensed period.

That screws the consumer who purchased the AB licensed products not Vortex. Vortex still supports their part of the product but AB won’t. AB was paid then decided not to support anything they licensed through Vortex

So guess what I won’t purchase another AB product. I will get something else. That’s not a big deal to AB but I am sure others feel the same as I do. Money put out with promise to keep up to date but AB decided to stop.

I have been using an Impact 4000 with Geo Ballistics in it. It works well enough that it consistently gives first round hits up to a mile with the 300WM and 6.5 Creedmoor I use it on

Plus Geo Ballistics will continue to update as new bullets come out

FatBoy · May 16, 2025

Trigger Monkey said:
45-degree Offset

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Pros: Easy to acquire by rolling the rifle over.
Inline with the bore and basically at a co-witness height so I can use whatever zero scheme I want.

Cons: It's awkward to use from the support side.
Mounts take up rail space.
I have to take extra shit with me to support the gun while it's canted at an angle to zero.
My situational awareness sucks with larger optics because when the gun is rolled over the optic blocks my field of view.
What ends up happening is that my brain then sends all the signals to my right eye so I end up seeing through a tube with a dot in the
middle surrounded by black. That sucks transitioning from target to target, but hey sweet cheek weld.

12:00 mounting location:

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Pros: Easy to zero, I can just stay in position with the same bipod and rear bag and zero at 100 same as the optic.
The optic is no longer blocked by the scope so when in use I have increased SA going from target to target.
I can use the optic from the dominant or support side without much issue.
I can see the dot just over the elevation turret so it's not really a chin weld with the cheek riser, I basically lift my head and there's the dot.
Deconflicts rail space for accessories like dope card holders, brass catchers, levels, etc...

Cons: Taller profile. This can get in the way depending on the situation but so can the 45 offset.
Limited options for quality stand alone mounts unless going with a new mount that has the option to swap turrets.

Those are just some of my experiences in experimenting with the two set ups over the past year.

^^ This shouldn’t be a sticky…

All this talk about transitions time. How much are you guys transitioning? I think the 2 gun matches with with Throoms (2 or 3” lollipops inside 20 yards) is probably the most I transition in a stage. Otherwise, AC zone reduced and larger targets 100 and in is red dot. Small targets and 100+ yards is LPVO (except throoms) . There’s not a ton of transition for me.

That said, when I start a stage with something close and I use LPVO for HOB holds I generally stay in the scope. This slows me WAY down when I have to find targets unless I’m shooting an ACOG. But me last two gun and I ended up starting in the middle of a 3 gong array. Had the scores not took pity on me after a 12 second magazine debacle I would have got a +30 for failure to engage.

Personally I like the 90*, mainly for VTAC lists and support side. Tried them both and went with what better for the type of shooting I do.

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Shootin25 · May 16, 2025

Referring to the mid cantilevered 1 piece scope mount on a RimX.

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Rthur · May 16, 2025

FFS...
Whether he meant to fire him or kill this was sent in the context of two previous attempts.
One within an inch of success.
Look up the list of shit this asshole has covered up for the top players in the swamp.
Within that context I know what I think of his tweet.

R

RAVAGE88 · May 16, 2025

Stephen T said:
Thank You MB for looking after all the people that believe in what you have done (Vudoo). Please keep up the good work your doing in are support.

Thank you, Sir, happy to be doing it.

MB

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gopherslayer · May 16, 2025

JemLynyrd67 said:
When I say bdl I do mean the entire assembly including the internal box and spring. Would this not include feed rails?

Nope. Spife’s pic shows the rails. Those are milled out for the factory DM system. I should know, I have a 260 Rem DM from way back and it wouldn’t feed from the factory setup. The geometry was off quite a bit for some reason. I bought a different stock and CDI system and sent it to Jeff for the inletting. AI mags and CDI had a reasonable price on the BM and inletting that nobody else could touch price wise and he’d inlet the stock and have it back to you in a week or less. I still have a spare CDI SA in my box of crap.

PinesAndProjectiles · May 16, 2025

Sean the Nailer said:
When my mother got her nursing degree, we gave her a "nurses watch" which is sorta-like a broach that is pinned to the lapel of the uniform and is actually 'upside down' so that way both hands can be used taking blood pressure and pulse, whilst looking down at the watch second hand.

I hope that initial explanation of what it is and what it does conveys the pragmatism and history of it's uniqueness.

This is great, I love it! Now to find one…

steve123 · May 16, 2025

I went away from motorcycles after wrecking at a track day and seeing the medical bills.

About 6 years ago my health started declining so I got out my old MTB to exercise some but living at 7000 ft elevation in an area with cindery soil and it had become a bit too hard but after a few months of trying I got discouraged. Then I discovered EMTB, specifically the Class 1 EMTB.
I'm in pretty decent shape now and much healthier!
It's a lot of fun and challenging as well.
I don't get so worn out and it's easy on the joints.
Have wrecked a half dozen times but not bad, mostly because I'm not going fast enough, though I am a more aggressive rider than most guys my age. I ride with some old guys who have EMTB's that are in their 50's to almost 80 and it's like being young again - kinda.

Also

There are some pretty awesome pcp airguns nowadays. I shoot on my 4 acres a lot and the neighbors don't mind because some of these guns are almost silent.
I have a network of friends that shoot airguns, and clubs that have different types of matches I shoot these in. It's cool that I'm still competitive in these shooting sports even though I've aged out of some of the firearms sports.
My wood stocked custom Thomas HPX will outshoot my expensive 22rf at 50Y. Just yesterday I got back from staying at the guys place that builds these Thomas's. It was neat hanging out with some of the best AG BR shooters in the world and also got my gun rebuilt and tuned.
Here's some pics.
The 2nd one is a Skout EVO that I bought this spring.

I'll put a airgun or two in the trunk then take this down to Phoenix and back which makes the 6 hour round trip a lot more fun than when I used to take my old beater.

secondofangle2 · May 16, 2025

spife7980 · May 16, 2025

JemLynyrd67 said:
When I say bdl I do mean the entire assembly including the internal box and spring. Would this not include feed rails?

With bdl the action has to be cut for the rounds to sit against the aciton itself and still feed without spitting up out of the action.
Stealing someone elses google pic here, I highlighted in yellow and put an arrow to the action itself being cut for that

mtrmn · May 16, 2025

"...a last Remark..."

We can only hope so...

LastShot300 · May 16, 2025

drglock said:
Actually they made this post here. Mine was missing shots after the 3.30 update but since updating to 3.32 mine is back to working normal again and not missing shots.

Xero C1 Pro - v3.30 update

Last week we released v3.30 for the Xero C1 chronograph. While adding some new functionality to simplify gathering data downrange, we introduced a bug that caused shots to be missed. We have resolved the issue and a new version of software, v3.32 has been released today. We apologize for the...

www.snipershide.com

Apparently some guys are still missing shots after applying 3.32 ...Go figure. Won't update mine until Garmin says it is GTG and so far the guy from Garmin never replied again to that thread, which is somewhat suspicious.

saddlerocker · May 16, 2025

I also have had a handful of split cases. Posted here and elsewhere. 77OTM and 75SB only. Shot a lot of AAC 75HPBT and 77SMK, but never had a split case with those. Personally I think some of their brass is weak. Some reloaders have said it's only good for 2 loading.

Could be my chamber (BMP chambered Hawk Hill 223 Wylde) , but it's never happened with any other ammo.

Doesn't cause a flier at all, so not overcharged.
Maybe just tolerance stacking, not a big issue for me, but it definitely happens.

Ill be buying more once they get their normal powder back.

Bigjake83 · May 16, 2025

WeR0206 said:
Jake after reading your posts im very tempted to try out the 3-18 on a 6 arc gas gun build. I’m also strongly considering the athlon midas tac gen2 5-30 which is also a 34mm tube. The only thing holding me back on the bushnell is ive heard their cust service has taken a nose dive recently. I haven’t confirmed that with personal experience yet though.

What specific mount did you use for the MP in your pics?

They are available for $580 at scopelist right now. Very tempting!!

https://www.scopelist.com/Bushnell-Match-Pro-ED-MRAD-3-18x50mm-Illum-FFP-Black-Riflescope-MP31850DMI.aspx

I've used Bushnells Customer service just recently due to them sending out a 5-30 Match Pro instead of the 3-18 on accident with absolutely outstanding customer service, they didn't even wait for me to return the 5-30 before sending me my 3-18.

About a year ago I had a Elite Tactical 6-36x53 which is one of their Flagship Scopes that I accidentally scratched the objective lens and they sent me replacement no questions asked.

I'm not quite sure on the new rumors of bad customer service, I haven’t heard anything in that regards.

I've never really had to deal with their customer service for anything legitimate because the Elite Tactical Scope line just don't break.

I now have around seven or eight of the Match Pro 3-18 on a wide assortment of rifles from .300 WM all the way down to 22LR and have had nothing but perfect reliability.

The two different scope you're comparing are wildly different in regards to magnification features and size, so it's impossible for me to attempt a Apple to Apples comparison.

The Bushnell MP 3-18 IMO is the best scope in the mid $750 range on the market, it perfectly fits the SPR/DMR Role.

For me other than the above mentioned features, what really seals the deal on them is they have chosen the perfect reticle thickness. It just pops to my eye, clear and crisp and is thick enough to actually use the lower magnification but still thin enough to shoot tiny groups at 100M at 18x.

Also I have the 3-18 in several different scope mounts at the moment, Nightforce, Geissele, Badger Ordnance, Larue, Bobro... they all work well. Just pick one by a quality reputable manufacturer that best suits your height over bore and eye relief requirements

pangris · May 16, 2025

I have quite a few Elanders, Duramags and ASC and MOST of them work on balance, but I started marking mine and it is mag specific. I had more FTF with the 26 rd Duramag and 17 rd elanders than other.With that said, I have a buddy that shoots daily using 5 17 rd elanders and has zero problems, and I went to 10 rd elanders and Duramags for the most part - added magpul ranger plates to get a grip - as my Grendels are for the most part accurate kit and I treat them like precision rifles, i.e. I'm not shooting high volume fast in general.

With that said, I've been using the 15 and 20 round Geissele lately just to see and in the better part of several months I haven't had any malfunctions at all with them across all Grendel's they've been used in.

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