powdahound76 said:

@KYAggie

I have a SA Origin with a 300 wsm barrel.

Running the Hawkins Hunter and flush mag without issues.
Im running the 200 eldx just over 2800.
Oct 2024 elk went 12 yds.

I run a Manners EH1 and the Hawkins direct mount rings to keep weight down on mine.



Curious how you like the light rifle with a can.
I didnt like it.
Brake was way better for spotting shots for me.

Thinking I want to try some lighter bullets at some point and it hits like Thor’s hammer with the 200s.

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Excellent, good to know the mags are working for you! My stock, the Peak 44 Bastion, came with the pillars installed and I first thought maybe they were the wrong height for the Hawkins Hunter BM and mags and that might be causing the issue, but that’s not the case. I measured the pillars Hawkins sent with the BM and compared that to the ones installed by Peak 44 and they are spot on. I won’t be able to work on it for a few weeks due to work, but I’m sure it will get worked out.

What barrel length do you have and what powder are you using? I’m getting very close to 2800 fps with R26 and a 210 ABLR, but not the accuracy I want; it has the two close one an inch or more away with those bullets. I might be pushing them a bit hard and plan to drop the load back and look for something closer to 2700 fps which will still hit hard a long way out with that bullet. Good to know the ELDX’s are working for you, those bullets are stupid accurate in my 6.5 cm.

I also have a load that was in the 2875 fps range with the 200 Accubond with R26 and getting better results with several in the 3/4” range, but I need to do more testing. I’m using Lapua brass and F215 primers and not seeing any pressure signs on the brass nor primers, but those are some pretty remarkable velocities in a 20” barrel. I’ll likely drop it back a bit and length test and see if things get more consistent. Length testing in this gun means seating everything out longer as I can’t get very close to the lands with any of these bullets; the only bullet I can get close that will still fit in the Mag is the old Hornady 190 BT Interlock . I might try it just for the heck of it.

As far as how do I like a light short rifle with a can? I’m not sure as of yet. I have the barreled action in a KRG-B with A419 Hellfire brake and a Cronus BTR on it for load development. I just bedded the Peak and haven’t shot it yet in its light set up. I will say that in the Peak stock with the NF on the pic rail, its nose heavy even without the can. I’m not sure how that will be in hand, but we shall see. I’m use to my R93 300 win mag and it’s wonderful designed balance; I can have it in hand all day, but it’s not suppressed. It would have cost me around $2000 to have a 20” fluted and threaded barrel made for it in 300 WSM, so I went this way with my Origin.

It’s funny, I’ve read comments by those who don’t own a 20” 300 WSM, that a barrel that short turns it into a 30-06; how wrong they are! Hammer of Thor it is.

Glad to know yours is a great success!

“fuck dem lizards”

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You can tell it’s an older project because it doesn’t have gay huge wheels and rubber band tires.

mosin46 said:

besides the fact that they both have nucs,who cares? a terrorist org or 2 might lose some support,we could lose some call centers,we might have to start training Americans as doctors again. what else? this getting in the middle of the foreign wars we manage to not send troops to is a distraction and an expense from the concentration on our problems. we have many of those including at least 2 internal wars.

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It matters because those who matter want to keep the work visas flowing. Americans are too expensive to hire, hurts profits you know.

Working at our local range again yesterday,
Had kiddo start from Bench at 250yds with the SAC 223 conversion.
Stacked 3 rounds in an inch with 0 lateral dispersion from Cold Bore.

Tripod form needs work. But, its a 15# rifle & a 60# 7yo, even with minimal LOP, not the easiest. Like us shouldering a Solothurn.
Prone or Bench lets him exploit the monopod.

Chamber Flags and Pachmayr conversion are from Tactic-Als here in the thread, Tripod is a Rekon i've abused the last 5 years.

The SAC conversion doesn't eject the brass, extracts it fine however.
It is an utter tack driver, off the shelf Hornady Black ammunition.

And stay out!

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Black bear attacks are rare. I'm curious to see what they come up with.

Just moved to Florida from Colorado nine months ago. I had never seen a bear wildlife road sign until moving here.

I plan on hitting the next one, shot the pigg river match a couple of weeks ago and it was a good time.

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BoilerUP said:

You are focusing in on the "rescue" part of the 12AB's mission while glossing over the single biggest aspect of it - "executive transport".

That night they might have been doing a checkride for their "rescue" (continuity of government) mission but the overwhelming majority of what they actually do day-to-day is act as rotary wing Uber drivers for government/Pentagon officials. There's only a handful of gold top VH60Ms, the rest are traditional green UH60s which is what the accident aircraft was.

If one believes that the Blue Angels are the very best operational pilots that Naval Aviation has to offer (I'm absolutely not questioning the skill of the Blue Angels, but the mission they train and fly to perfection isn't operational), the Army equivalent wouldn't be 12AB or USAPAT, it would be 160SOAR.

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Well, yes. I was focusing on the ACCIDENT, and the pilot they were training for that mission at the time. While I don't doubt any of the above, the point was what they were doing on this night, what the training mission was for, and who they were training for it. It appears to me that it was for the rescue mission. And I’ll say again, to ME, it doesn’t seem to be a mission for a 450 hr pilot.

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This is incorrect. An FA18 pilot would be lucky to have a thousand hours after he finished his 2 for 10 commitment. The blue angels are widely regarded as the best. The thunderbirds don’t hold a candle to them. It’s basically a fraternity. Youre picked, but youre picked from a bunch of guys who literally do a rush to be selected. There’s a shit ton of politics and ass kissing involved.

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"Navy and Marine Corps F/A-18 demonstration pilots and naval flight officers are required to have a minimum of 1,250 tactical jet hours and be carrier-qualified. Marine Corps C-130 demonstration pilots are required to have 1,200 flight hours and be an aircraft commander.[16]"

My information may be dated, but was correct at the time. The last time I was visiting the Museum at NAS Pensacola, they said 1500 hrs, but that was probably 15 years ago. I used to go there all the time, and that was the figure given every time. It appears that at some time since then they dropped it to 1250.

However, it appears you may be correct in the end, as when I looked it up there were statements that list no specific number of flight hour requirements. Perhaps they have dropped it? I found the 1250 hr requirement in documents as recent as 2016.

The first female F-18 pilot selected for the Blue Angels happened in 2022, so I'm guessing somewhere between 2016 and 2022 the flight hour requirement may have been quietly dropped, because...you know...

And if true, that would fit in well with my point about this particular training mission accident - lowered standards to fill a demographic quota.

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FWC: “We don’t want people going out and killing bears.” Kills three bears.

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"The 12th Aviation Battalion's primary mission is to provide continuous, time-sensitive rotary wing aviation and technical rescue support to the National Capital Region (NCR), according to Army.mil. This includes supporting senior government officials, including the President, Vice President, and Secretary of Defense, with executive transport, aeromedical evacuation, and operational aviation support. The battalion also handles homeland security, contingency response, and emergency operations within the NCR."

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You are focusing in on the "rescue" part of the 12AB's mission while glossing over the single biggest aspect of it - "executive transport".

That night they might have been doing a checkride for their "rescue" (continuity of government) mission but the overwhelming majority of what they actually do day-to-day is act as rotary wing Uber drivers for government/Pentagon officials. There's only a handful of gold top VH60Ms, the rest are traditional green UH60s which is what the accident aircraft was.

If one believes that the Blue Angels are the very best operational pilots that Naval Aviation has to offer (I'm absolutely not questioning the skill of the Blue Angels, but the mission they train and fly to perfection isn't operational), the Army equivalent wouldn't be 12AB or USAPAT, it would be 160SOAR.

Bullfrog08 said:

People that engage in road rage are the lowest segment of society. Dont care whose fault or who got hurt.

It's right up there with arguing on the internet.

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