But we are taking on His nature. Repentance is death of our will, or nature. Baptism is the burial of that dead body. And being born again of the spirit through the infilling of the Holy Ghost is our new life.
Also you missed one key point of baptism. Yes it represents our death when we go into the waters, but it also represents our resurrection when we come out of the waters. It is symbolism tied to Jesus death and resurrection. Just as Jesus’ body died and was resurrected, so too will ours. Also just as Jesus did not loose his human nature when he was resurrected, neither do we loose ours (again nature in the sense of what we are made up of/substance and not behavior)
Additionally being born of the spirt is symbolically tied to the incarnation of Jesus. Just as the divine nature was tied to the human nature in the incarnation, so to is our human nature connected to the divine (though in a lesser and different way than with Jesus) when we are born of the Spirit. Both baptism and being born of the spirt are directly analogous to Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection and His incarnation (an incarnation that is not possible without a trinitarian understanding)
Maybe in '26.
Next time, a raw Prime Ribeye will be on the required gear list. Four nights in cattle country and we were not offered a steak and potato dinner? :-]] Other than that, that ranch was fantastic. @bowietx was our local host. Thanks, Will!
But we are taking on His nature. Repentance is death of our will, or nature. Baptism is the burial of that dead body. And being born again of the spirit through the infilling of the Holy Ghost is our new life.
2 Peter 1:4 speaks of believers becoming "partakers of the divine nature" through God's promises. We are partakers of the divine nature, not in the sense of becoming literally God, but in becoming more like God in character and way of life. But we are partaking in that Divine nature/substance of God, we are not made God and we do not loose our human nature/substance. God’s divine nature helps us to become our true human nature. Think about it, Adam and Eve were in communion with God in the garden with human nature. Human nature /substance isn’t inherently bad, sin just corrupts
But bringing that back to the trinity discussion, Nature is referring to God’s substance, what he is made up of. You could never hope to describe the infinite Divine nature/substance using the finite human nature/substance as a reference point
True.
And 4 way stops here in podunkville idaho are where you demonstrate to the village how selfless you are. The purpose is to see who can be last to go.
I think rules of a 4 way stop are:
1. whoever is there first retains the right to wave everyone else through.
2. A more vigorous waver assumes the role and waves cars through.
3. If two cars arrive simultaneously, and only after a false start is made by both then the FIRST one to quickly wave the other through is allowed to sit there while everyone else goes first.
God only knows what happens when you have multiple cars AND pedestrians in the crosswalk. I guess the pedestrian is granted waving rights?
Its either that, or else “tie goes to the runner” i dont remember.
Funny you mention that because the out of towner snowbirds do that here in Arizona. The locals just stomp on the gas pedal. Left, right, straight, turn, whatever, just hit the gas and honk.
I like a good single malt highland scotch, but recently started drinking malted rye. Really like New Riff but expensive and my local store stopped carrying it so my go to now is Basil Hayden Malted Rye.
This is a verse trinitarians like to use, but according to what you’re saying we are not actually in God’s likeness. And yes, we do have His nature in salvation. That is precisely what salvation is. It is us being changed from our “natural” way, or nature, to His nature.
I am a Trinitarian and I never would reference this verse to support the trinity. That is because I understand what it meant it in it originally context. Here God is not talking to himself, he is talking to the heavenly hosts/divine council.
Additionally you seem to misunderstand what is meant by nature. Nature is not a reference to our natural way and does not reference behavior. What nature means in this discussion is what we are made of, our substance. We are made of a physical nature. God is made up of an immaterial nature. There are other spiritual beings that have an immaterial nature, but they do not have God’s immaterial nature. So to respond to what you said, no salvation is not us being turned into God’s nature/substance.
Yes we are created in his image after the likeness of what we would call the divine council (I.e. co ruling/ administrating )But this language in the Hebrew and in the context of the ancient world does not mean what we as moderns have assigned to it. It does not mean we somehow have a piece of God’s divine nature. It means we are his representatives or his vice regents here on earth. The same language is used in ancient times to refer to a kings representative
