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New Contest Starting Now! This Target Haunts Me

Not a flyer so to speak but a comical learning experience...

As a new precision shooter I had read everything I could on load development. Ladder, OCW, Satterlee, etc. I thought I was an expert on all things load development.

When using a new to me cartridge, I like to pick a few powders for the bullet I want to shoot and load a quick 10-12 rnd pressure test. Basically a ladder test shot at 100yds to see where I hit pressure. Sometimes the combo works and all rnds are under 1.5 MOA across the spread, other times it's all over the place and clear that it's not a good combo.

Time for the humble pie...

The first time I tried the pressure ladder I was shooting a 224 Valkyrie. I shot the rounds at 100 yards and had what looked like a perfect ladder test! Thought to myself why on earth is everyone doing this at 500, 600 or 1000 yards... it works at 100...

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Full of excitement and some great "nodes" in hand i started packing up my gear. When I picked up the rifle from the bench, the scope nearly fell off! Scope Mounts were completely loose. What looked like a nice ladder (confirmation bias) was actually the mount shifting and working loose!

Always check and recheck screws, mounts, etc on gear.

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Oof. Clearly a traumatic episode. Not several days in a car, but I was once forced to listen to When Doves Cry repeatedly, non stop, for three-four hours.

I wasn't a Prince fan before that, but afterwards it made me want to run screaming. I still cringe and quickly shut it off or remove myself when I hear it 40 years later.

1985 or 86 a DJ at a Pensacola station learned he was being fired. Locked himself in the studio and played Rock Me Armadas for hours.

New Contest Starting Now! This Target Haunts Me

Bow hunting in Colorado for Elk roughly 25 years ago. Last day of the hunt had a young bull sauntering out in an open field, the guide said to take him. Estimated the range at 40 yards, drew slowly on a broadside shot, easy release and the arrow stuck in the ground about 15 feet in front of it. Right in line with the vitals. The elk ran few yards farther away, I used my 50 yard pin top of the back, same result. I ended up flinging all 5 arrows at it in slightly increasing distances each time with the same results. Turns out an actual elk is GIANT compared to the small deer targets I'd been practicing on and with no trees or anything other than sage brush I underestimated the range by 25 yards. Actually 65 yards + first shot rather than 40. I never caught up. I did learn to do ground distance estimations after that though.

Subsonic big-bore loads

With cans and lever rifles getting more and more popular, I figured it might be a beneficial for those of us who have fallen down the big-bore subsonic rabbit hole to have a thread to discuss what's working for us powder, case prep and bullet wise.

My particular poison is .44 subs out of a Henry X and 77/44, but .357, .45 LC, 450BM, 458 Socom, etc discussion welcome.

Getting consistent accuracy out of these kinds of loads has been tricky for me, and my standards for good enough are a good bit lower than with my other rifles. Having tried CFE pistol, HP-38/W231, Longshot, HS-6 and AA#7 with a variety of ~300gr cast and jacketed bullets, I'm seeing the most success with AA#7 and HS-6 at this point. Having uniformly clean cases seems to have a large impact on 100yd accuracy with my .44s, I got some strange results with using vibratory cleaned vs wet tumbled w/armor all cases.

Below is some of the load development I've worked on.

I'm very interested to hear what's working/not working for everyone else.

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Nightforce ATACR 4-20x50 Mil-xt or Schmidt & Bender 3-20x50 non-ultra short in Tremor 2 or 3

I have that exact NF on a .224 Valk. I like it just fine. I’ve never handled the SB you mention, but I have several of their PM IIs in 5-25 and one 6-36, and they are my favorites. I have the Tremor 3 reticle on a NF 7-35 and I’m not a fan of the reticle (the scope itself is great). The T3 is way too cluttered for me and makes spotting misses much harder. I like the NF Mil-XT or the SB TRID 2 (not GRID 2) reticles much better. A Tremor 5 might not be too bad but I haven’t tried one, and I’m not familiar with the T2. Also, I have read from folks here that the glass on the NF 4-20 isn’t as good as the next one down the magnification ladder in the ATACR line (3-18, I think ? Edit: it's probably the 4-16x50 model that @ma smith mentions below that I'm thinking of). No experience with that, but something to research if you’re still deciding.