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You could call Bartlein directly and tell them exactly what you want to do with the gun and they will help you specify the perfect barrel. They are awesome.

I'd suggest heavy varmint with 1.0" muzzle for the contour. Bartlein doesn't list it, but they make it often and will know exactly what you mean. This is a heavy contour but not too heavy. If it's just for shooting prone or from a bench at long distance then this is a great option.

I'd suggest 28" finished length. You don't have to worry about specifying the length to Bartlein. The blank should come at 29" and can be made to any length 28 or shorter by your gunsmith.

I'd suggest a 7.7 twist or 7.5 twist. In my experience going with more twist than necessary can hurt precision. That bullet works perfectly in a 7.7 twist so no reason to go faster.

I'd recommend 4 groove. It's easier for your smith to dial in and they shoot as good or better than 5R.

Don't worry about specifying hand lapping. All Bartleins are lapped and they know what they are doing.
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Best ham yet.

Ran out or oranges so I added Cointreau to the glaze

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Plenty left over for sammiches.


Edit to add, that second pic looks like it’s winking at me. Weird.




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Good looking ham. Although it does look like something from Dr. Seuss.
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Bartlein Barrels Update

I feel your pain, hiring good people is tough. There's a big risk of the quality going down the tubes. I saw in my business, that scaling up was not easy. I was fortunate I had good people and avoided the temptation to grow too big where quality would suffer. I'm glad I retired and now I can pick and choose if I decide to work. Wishing you the best of luck.
You got that right bud!

It's worse having a smaller pool of people to choose from as well. In my opinion you can thank covid and the far left for tanking the workforce that's effected all of manufacturing.

Our oldest boy is a tool designer and does programming as well. His place got wind that he was looking at a different shop to go to... called him into the office... asked him not to go... the raise they gave him... I was floored. He was shocked himself and he didn't even ask for more money! This was just two weeks ago.

As a kid in the 50's & early 60's you could believe most people & the news, be it

Dude put down the weed - Vietnam , Kennedy, MKUltra , Gulf of Tonkin, Most of what was happening in Korea from 51-53 .
Giving STDs and radiation to black and brown people just because , the scrubbing of all the giant mounds skeletons and coined money from the Smithsonian.

It’s all always been a crock of shit - only difference was we had a high trust society before the boomers came into power and fought harder to keep the cabin by the lake and the boat then they did for their kids during divorce number 3 .
Shut up and get back to work pay that SS tax.
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Bartlein Barrels Update

I've been in manufacturing now for 40 years. Gun barrels themselves almost 30.

Here is the issue... it's not as easy as you or some others would think.

We've put more machines online over time... but you have a domino effect... we can say... lets build another rifler and we are actually toying with the idea again.... but you have to look at the whole picture... you have to look back at the whole process.... can the bore reamers and prelapping processes keep up... if you say yes... then you go back further... can the guys in contouring/lathe work keep up... if you say no... your then adding another contouring machine... and a guy to run it.... if you are adding a lathe for contour work... then you have to go back to the gun drilling.... can the gun drills keep up to feed the lathes and the whole process etc...

Actually looking at getting another gun drill as well.

You also have to look at the capital investment... is the work load going to be there a few months or a year from now etc... Yes I don't see it going anywhere.

Right now... it's not actual machine time that is the issue... it's the people time is what we are lacking. We cannot for the most part find quality people to work. One is salary... even if we agree on a starting salary.... right now the only open spots are on 2nd shift. Nobody wants to work 2nd shift. For the most part we don't have a 3rd shift so don't even go there.

At the peak of covid... we ran the shop 24 hours a day... and for several months... 7 days a week. Daytime guys started at 4am.. worked till 4pm and the 2nd shift guys came in at around 3:30pm/4pm time frame and worked till 4am. We alternated crews every other weekend so guys had time off for the weekends primarily on Sundays. Maybe 5 to 7 of us worked one Sunday and then a different group of guys worked the next Sunday. For a span of about 9 months there where 3 to 4 guys that were putting in 35 hours a week of overtime!!!!!

We hired two guys back in Nov and Dec. time frame. I interviewed another guy and we agreed on wages etc.... took about 4 weeks of going back and forth. He knew up front.... he had to start on 2nd shift. I told him there will be weeks where you can come in and work 1st shift but cannot guarantee it all the time. He plenty of experience in drilling and turning and doing finished test barrel work. He was a perfect fit... then his wife said no to 2nd shift... that killed it.

Also we are not just going to hire anyone just to throw people at the problem. That doesn't solve anything.

Later, Frank
I feel your pain, hiring good people is tough. There's a big risk of the quality going down the tubes. I saw in my business, that scaling up was not easy. I was fortunate I had good people and avoided the temptation to grow too big where quality would suffer. I'm glad I retired and now I can pick and choose if I decide to work. Wishing you the best of luck.

Bartlein Barrels Update

At one point at the height of covid... our lead times went out to 14 months. We are at about 8-9 right now. Don't get me wrong... if we can get it done sooner... we're not going to sit on it and make you wait.

We've also been making changes in the shop on how we are handling orders...and we are seeing progress but it's not going to happen in a month or two.

Lead times from the steel mills went from about 5 months to about 14 months during covid. Heck even last year.... I ordered some material in March of 2024... received it on Dec. 4, 2024. Right now I will the mills are at 7 months.