Rubicon Precision said:

Clearance could be a mile when locked up, but the bolt handle may be sitting pretty far back allowing contact on an empty chamber.
The marks are a non-issue. As long as the bolt isn't touching the barrel while in battery with a round in the chamber, what ever happens when cycling empty or dry firing doesn’t matter.

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Rubicon Precision said:

To clarify. On an empty chamber, there’s two things that stop the bolt from going forward. The front of the bolt against breech end of the barrel or the bolt handle on the receiver.

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Appreciate you for making this clear

The rear lens assembly of a well-designed clip-on will have some maximum amount of angular deviation for which it will have the consistent POI shift that you describe. That is the angular tolerance for that clip on. When you add a wonky handguard it may exceed that tolerance if it’s bad enough, or get close to it such that a wonky mount can take it beyond that tolerance. It’s a little silly to say “why worry about the mount and not the handguard?” One is a lot easier to change than the other, but the frank answer is you do have to worry about both because they both can be sources of angular deviation. Thankfully most handguards will be within tolerance, as will most mounts, but if you get a 95th percentile rail and a 97th percentile mount you might have issues. There’s a reason the manuals for every military clip-on I own say “mount it as close to straight and optical centerline as possible” and not “eh, fuck it, if you can see through it the results will always be perfect.”

lroseen said:

Simple solution, both parents are equally responsible, with the judge or jury allowed to weigh the home situation. A prosecutor would have to show some level of neglect to apply. If it’s a split home the standard for neglect should automatically apply. Our society needs to disincentive split homes and encourage parents to stay together.

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In other words. End welfare and any other incentive social hand outs.
Many of the illegals, DACA, are abusing these programs.

After 5 months of being a safe queen finally shot the AT today.

Not nice tiny groups to show off but the rifle is a joy to shoot. The mighty 308 is a little hard to keep on target for spotting impacts/misses, but considering it was was first few boxes of ammo through it, I felt it did alright.

That sounds good but doesn’t fit the results down range.

When a military style (real) clip on has collimation that’s not quite perfect, it’s consistently off in the same direction and amount. It will always shoot 3” left and 1” low, regardless of which gun it’s on, assuming proper day scope height on each gun.

We all know that the hand guard of each gun isn’t that consistent. Each hand guard is pointed in a different direction relative to the zero of its rifle. Add in hand guard flex from bipod loading and we’re several more inches off.

And yet the military clip on mounted to these varying handguards keeps proving the same consistent results (perfect for good ones, or consistently 3” left and 1” low as in the example above).

So pointing slightly differently doesn’t change anything for a real clip on…

And the clip on doesn’t know if it’s being pointed slightly differently because of the hand guard or because of the mount. Thus, there’s no way for the mount to cause a problem, and if there was, why is there such a concern over the mount and not the hand guard that it’s all mounted to?

I had no idea it was a horror or what it was about before I watched it. It was quite interesting. Not a bad movie.

Marine diesels what?

No reasonable person would loan a 17 year old kid with no current job $200,000 for a house, car, tractor, bulldozer, or any other plan.

Yet, that same kid can sign up for a $200,000 loan to get a Masters degree in pottery, art history, sociology, or any number of other useless fields of study. I am NOT in favor of full forgiveness, but the university systems should have some accountability.

Maybe a good start is that they list realistic income potential for each major, and refuse to loan more than 2 years salary for that major.

Or maybe, just maybe, parents could guide their kid to a wise choice instead of helping them fail.

CAMO!