Sorry if this has been discussed, and I feel it has , but I couldn’t find anything on it. I have shot one prs match last year and am doing 3 more this season, I don’t mind reloading but it isn’t my favorite thing to do. I would rather spend more time shooting. I have been listening to a bunch of podcasts lately and keep hearing from different people how they have basically stopped doing load development. Pick a velocity, pick a seating depth, maybe mess with that a little, and go shoot. Part of me says that it could work and part of me doesn’t as that’s “just not that way I do it”. Basically for people that have tried both, what have you find and what are your results?

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Hi All,
I recently decided to add the K&M arbor press to my reloading process with the Le Wilson dies.
Many K&M arbor press owners seem to want a longer handle.
Can anyone tell me where longer handles are made & sold ?
Thank you,
AJ

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I am looking to buy another scope. Scope will be for steel matches and some hunting. I am considering a 5,25 ATACR, Bushnell DMR321, or a ZCO 420.
I would like to know if someone has looked through a ATACR and a Bushnell DMR and can tell me if the ATACR is worth 1000 more dollars.
I would also like to konw if someone has looked through an ATACR and NCO and can tell me if the ZCO is worth 1000 more dollars.
I would like to know visually, I can read about specs and features. I am more concerned with image. Spotting misses, reading mirage. Stuff along those lines. And Parallax, I hate a scope with Parallax issues. I have SB PM, Razors, Zeiss V4 and V6 it that helps to refer above scopes to any of those for examples on visual, glass, clarity, parallax.

I am rounding to 1000 dollars so please do not correct me on the price, I have looked up each price.

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So I am breaking in a new 6.5 CM barrel from P2 precision...
Pre-fit for BAT TR 26" and it seems to be slowing down?
Using some cheap Barnes Match Burners 140 grain and 40.0 grains of RL 16 with CCI #200 seated to 2.800 COAL.
Accuracy is fine and stable around 1/2 MOA. Speeds measured with Garmin Xero sitting on bench. TBAC Magnus was used as well.
First 20 rounds average velocity was 2713 FPS.
Second 20 rounds average velocity was 2706 FPS.
Third 20 rounds average velocity was 2696 FPS.
Fourth 20 rounds average velocity was 2696 FPS again.
Fifth 20 rounds average velocity was 2689 FPS.
I cleaned with Eliminator every 20 rounds using patch/jag and a few strokes of a nylon brush.

100 rounds down the barrel so far...

Any thought on why this seems to be slowing down?

These rifles are pure trash. Against my better judgement I bought a new B14 Sierra Wilderness in 7PRC after already having been burned 2 times by rifles of theirs that shot like crap out of the box (including a premier).

The first trip to the range right out of the box it was shooting roughly 4-6” groups with all three types of Hornady factory ammo. I started with a barrel that I had cleaned at home prior to the range trip and did a break in since factory barrels are known to be rough. Even during the break in and cleaning the barrel frequently the groups were a whole hell of a lot larger than you’d ever expect to see.

Everything was checked for torque, I pulled that optic off of the rifle and put it on my PH2 6.5CM and confirmed there wasn’t an issue with it and put the optic from my PH2 on the Bergara with the same result. Also tried different torque settings on the action screws other than their 55inlbs spec going to 65 on both and also lightening the rear. I also pulled the barreled action out of the chassis where I saw a lot of heavy overspray from their panting process and proceeded to sand the thick webbing spots down at the range. Nothing I did changed the result.

After 60 rounds the rifle was still shooting like absolute dog shit and copper fouling like crazy. I called Bergara on the way home from the range and got an RMA to send it in.

At home I inspected the rifle where I noticed the absolute terrible bolt lug contact and thought that might be causing an issue as well so I noted that when I sent it in.

Bergara inspected the rifle, recrowned it and said it shot a .9” and .6” group with Terminal Ascent 170gr and sent it back out. They didn’t address the bolt lug contact issue or the issue with the hinge pin on the floorplate of the bottom metal falling out of one side of the hinge due to the pin either being too short or the relief being too wide and their “gunsmith” said was in spec.

I was hopeful it would shoot as I do generally like the rifle and it has improved but it still shoots like complete ass. I even bedded the stock since it was showing signs of a bedding issue and Bergara fucked up the paint in the inlet while they had it which uncovered how uneven and thick the paint was in places. The bedding seemed to have made a difference because the erratic flyers are gone and it’s just shooting large triangle type 3 shot groups now… for the most part.

I got frustrated at the range after group after group being 1.5-2MOA with every ammo type include the Terminal Ascent they recommended for another 50-60 rounds or so. I had cleaned the copper mine yet again with bore tech eliminator which is quite the process due to how badly it fouls and decided I was just going to put some rounds through it to try to smooth it out in 10 round strings. So I shot the first two 3 shot groups back to back and they were… large. Loaded up another 3 and it stacked them sub .5moa… no shit. So I shot a 4th and it put it right in there. At this point I’m thinking this thing is starting to shoot and get excited. I shot another 3 shot group with the barrel super hot with was also very good.

So I let it cool completely and shot another 3 shot group… back to dog shit. WTF? I cleaned it again and shot two more 3 shot groups with the same result. I was done wasting ammo so I put it away. I was thinking the barrel might have a stress relieving issue based on this and texted another hide member what had happened and he said the same thing.

I also brought my Seekins Element 7mm PRC to the range and shot them side by side and all of the ammo shot exceptional in the Seekins, so I know it’s not an issue with the ammo or an issue with recoil. Despite the Seekins being nearly 3lbs lighter as configured it still didn’t manage a group larger than 3/4moa, even the 8 shot group I fired in 1.5min trying to mimic barrel heat over a NRLH stage.

So here we are yet again, I called Bergara again and they said they’ll issue another RMA and look at it again but won’t test fire it. I feel like that’s a waste of my time when I’ve already gone down that road with negative results so I have zero faith in a positive outcome from that nor do I wish to waste any more time or ammo verifying the rifle when it comes back. I proposed that they either 1. Accept the rifle back and issue a full refund of my purchase price or 2. Agree to rebarrel the rifle so that I can send it down the road with some level of confidence that whoever bought it might get a decent rifle. They denied both.

I’ve followed up with the same documentation of my results in an email as well as my proposal. I doubt anything will come of it so my next step will be to send it to a gunsmith next week for a third party evaluation and I’ll then just take legal action and seek the cost of the rifle, inspection fees, as well as the ammo I’ve wasted on this piece of crap.

So my advice, buy a rifle from just about any other rifle manufacturer.

I’ll update this later tonight or tomorrow with some pictures as well as update it with third party findings or any resolution from Bergara.

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Looks to me like the stars are lining up, for what the Bible said would happen.

Like new condition. It’s only been out three nights on a 22 creed. The only reason I’m selling is lack of time to use it.
Purchased new in middle of February. Warranty card is not filled out.
Box and all accessories included.
It’s set up with Pulsar’s QD mount. Factory mount included.
$3300 shipped and insured.
JD

24" 260rem AI barrel w/brake . Marked AINA . 492 rounds down the pipe. Asking $600 shipped CONUS.
Paypal friends and family checks and MO accepted

Lightly used McMillan U10-7 stock for R700 LONG actions/clones. Right hand. Includes bottom metal and forend rail.

Asking $850 shipped.

**Stock is currently bedded for a LA Deviant. If I receive full asking price, I have already arranged to have it professionally re-bedded by Braxton at 360Precision for no additional cost. Just cover shipping of your action to the shop.

Going to be there next week training some new hires. Yes, I know it's south of Bowling Green so I will do my best to fit in with the local hillbilly population..
anywho....they set me up close to the airport....so where will I find a liquor store with a good selection and where might I stumble across some primers and powder? Gratzi

I have 500 pieces of once-fired 300 prc brass. It was from Hornady loaded 225gr ELD-M and was shot from AI AXSR.

Looking for $0.8/ea + shipping

For sale is a MARLIN 1894 CS MICRO GROOVE "JM" Stamped barrel 357 MAG / 38 SPL

Has Bushnell scope, nylon sling, hammer extension and base and rings.

Very good condition ! 60 rounds fired. Will send remaining box of ammo with rifle.

Can send more pics if interested.

$1375 shipped and insured to your FFL. CONUS

PP F&F, USPS MO or Venmo.

NO TRADES NEEDED.

NO help on YT, or anywhere.
The full shit of reloading just happen at once.....
I was reloading my older .260Rem Lapua cases, and then this one comes out.
These were the cases i did reloaded with the older RCBS Summit press, and the one who know, do know..
That case is tight as MF!!
I have tryed everything, rat tail file, tap drill, heat, f...K.
I have one idea, to use epoxy putty, put a full kit in, and the same time a threaded bolt.
Once it settle in, try to to tap it out.
My friend also told to dremel it out, but i just feel that i can fuck this up like totally with that.
Like i told, there is a million ways to get the case stuck in the die, but what the fuck, when the case mouth is also gone.
My friend knows a friend, told that a acid bath would be one way to get that brass out, might be one.
But is there any one on this forum, who has been on this shit, where i am at the moment, and could tell me, what to do.
Thank you all ready...

Badger 35mm mount - 150$
Bobro 34mm mount Double lever QD w/ sticker - 200$
PLRF15 NVG adaptor -250$
Linear comp 1/2-28 - 40$
Ti-7 AR15 buttstock -50$
2 AR grips - 20$
Scope chaps for 5-25 PMII - 45$


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Well… the time has come. It was only a couple of years ago when the difference between the “Legit” US-made / manufactured kit was clearly better and buying Chinesium was a crap shoot at best.

Not so anymore.

Chynah has upped their game almost overnight. Their thermals, at least in terms of performance, easily rival or, in some cases, exceed that of their American peers at non-trivial cost savings. This extends especially to the new crop of knock-off mounts and bridges, cloning the likes of GBRS, Wilcox, KVC/RQE, and many others.

I have all of the genuine articles and figured I’d find out if the new breed of Chinesium is really “all that” when directly compared to Stars and Stripes manufacturers.

Debate amongst yourselves as to whether or not your Red-Blooded Murican Patriotism will allow you to buy Yellow, but the results are in, and a $138 (delivered) Chynah KVC/RQE bridge is, for all practical, non-mil users, every bit as good as Knights’ $1,000 offering (that routinely sells on the used market for $1,500-2,000).

Fit-and-finish are nearly indistinguishable from one another. I literally can’t tell which is which, aside from the screw hardware (Imperial on KVC, Metric on Chinkolium) and the weight (the C model is 0.5 ounces heavier). Both lock-up in a genuine Wilcox G24 equally as well and various dovetail devices lock into both slots identically.

Functionally, they are identical.

The Sotac/Chynah unit comes in a nice, little reusable plastic case with rippled foam.

The KVC comes in a small, white plain cardboard box wrapped in a clear plastic bag. No foam, nothing.

Perhaps under hard use in austere environments the KVC would hold up better, but that’s pure conjecture on my part, as I’m grasping for reasons to justify owning a mount that costs 10x as much but *may* deliver only 10% more value.

I can see 2, maybe 3 times the price to have a “Made in the USA” sticker on the plain white box, but TEN?!

Sotac is killing it right now. They have knock-offs of everything KVC makes, as well as Wilcox and others. iRay is pumping out serious NV and Thermal tech and updating/improving almost every year, where US manufacturers are lucky to refresh products every 5.

I’m done paying premium prices for inferior products — or at least not superior. Let the DoD pay $4,000 for their hammers and toilet seats.

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Hi y'all. This is sorta a follow-up to another thread re: a Martini-Henry rechamber. I don't think that'll work, so does anyone know if an (Italian) 1885 High Wall can be safely converted from .45-70 to .450 Nitro Express?

Thanks,
Son of Dorn

Willing to trade with members with feedback for the following:

Bushnell 3-12x LRTSi. Would also consider a 3-12x non- illuminated depending on cash offer.

Trijicon SRO 2.5 moa or RMR 06 3 moa plus cash

Geissele super 700 plus cash

Bushnell 6-36x XRS3 G4P reticle. Has light blems from use and being in the safe. Comes with new Butler Creek Element Caps. $1125 shipped. Zelle preferred but will take PayPal ff or usps mo. Expect delays if paying mo.

M brace mount sold. Mi cantilever mount is available for an additional cost.