Match starts: February 25, 2023 @ 8:00 AM · Match ends: February 25, 2023 @ 3:00 PM

Location:
3PJM+3H6 Vance, Alabama
Vance, Al 35184

DATE / LOCATION: 02/25/2023 / Steel City Precision, Vance AL.
MD-John Cuckler, AMD-Zach Stamp

Steel City is back! A newly developed range designed with the field shooter /team match competitor in mind. Natural terrain, cross valley engagements, blind and semi blind stages…(depending on the event)
There will be a few types of field matches we will host on the property: Steel City Rifleman's Challenge (1-day), Steel City Sniper Challenge 1-day and 2-day) , ELR, and gas gun only events.

This match will be a short course hike and shoot individual match where the rifleman will engage targets in practical/field semi-blind stages along a natural terrain rifle course. Unlike our team match, this event will be held on the SCP south course only, so the movements between stages will be short.
*Most stages will be semi-blind where small squads will hike to a stage area and will be read a stage brief by a roaming RO. Upon completion of the brief, each shooter will get a short opportunity to view the targets on glass. Squads will then move to a staging area and wait their turn to shoot without the ability to study range conditions on glass while others are shooting. Competitors will be expected to locate, range, and engage all targets. Some targets will be painted subdued colors, but won’t be concealed within natural terrain. Competitors may be expected to come up with a strategy under tight time constraints with limited information given to them.
*There may be stages where a competitor is allowed to designate a spotter to assist in calling corrections.
*Targets will be placed from 300 - 1,560 yards, with most targets from 500-1000 (There is only (1) target at 1560, it’s big has excellent background and 2 hit indicators…don’t let this keep you from showing up)
*This match is not a physical fitness event, but will require competitors to traverse hilly, unmanicured terrain will all their gear.
*Trophy’s will be awarded for 1st-3rd place.
Match is live on PractiScore, directions to the property will be provided at registration, and can be found on our club page in PractiScore.

MINT SHAPE.
Used on my 22 creed impact for some backyard fun. It just isn’t for me. I love the looks, but I still prefer my MPA Chassis unfortunately.

This is for the Impact 737. It will fit a straight 1.250 barrel with ease.
It currently has a Hoptic saddle blanket on it. Comes with everything it would as brand new.
No Bipod. Unless you want it for extra $

$1500 Shipped.
If you want a new Hawkins DBM for it, i have one. $1700 for both shipped.
Prices -OBO
Pm or text me 815-878-8255

SOLD-Thanks

Selling a VX5HD 3-15 with HTMR reticle. Mil, SFP.

Comes with original box, manuals, sticker, aluminum flip caps and badger 1.125" rings. Lenses are perfect, no obvious dings or safe rash.

Unclaimed CDS dial coupon.

$1150 shipped. PP FF or venmo. Will accept partial trade for G34 MOS or Dbal D2/I2. Crossposted.

sirhrmechanic said:

So the Kollmorgen scopes were from Northhampton, Ma. It's where all the U.S. Submarine periscopes since WW1 have been made. Very cool company... moved to Northhampton during WW1 from, I think, NYC because of the threat of German attacks near the coast.

Kollmorgen was flat out during WW2 and had a massive output as U.S. put to sea hundreds of S-Class, I think they were called, subs. The Fish boats. They were all named after fish... before they needed Senate and House support and started naming them after states and cities... anyhoo... Kollmorgen made hundreds of periscopes and was massively tooled up when along came Hiroshima and... Boom... No more need for submarines.

Nothing. Nada. No orders. No sales. No boats being built... nothing. The company went from boom to... not a single order for anything.

Knowing that the Navy would eventually have to do 'something' to replace the aging boats... and with Rickover's 'nuclear' Navy coming together (Took 9 years to launch.... something like 7 years to get a periscope ordered!)... Kollmorgen was willing to do anything to keep their workforce together. For almost a decade.

So the best optics guys in North America (except maybe Frank Cooke's works) spent 7 years making... rifle scopes (for the returning GI's who wanted scoped rifles.) Spotting scopes. Even cut glass ashtrays.... yes, using optical-grade periscope glass... to make ashtrays. To keep their people busy and their works operating.

As soon as Rickover's navy got off the ground, Kollmorgen dumped all the ashtray and scope projects... I think they sold their scope line to Lyman?? Bearcubs? And stopped the ashtrays alltogether. But the result is that for about 5 - 7 years, some of the best scopes on the planet were being turned out in Northhampton... on the optical equipment created to make high-res submarine periscopes. And were being made at 'sportsmen' prices.

These scopes have some of the clearest lenses, best machining, best reticles (the dots are fantastic)... of the era. They are head and shoulders above almost anything else out there. And noone has ever heard of them. I still use one on my Sako Finnbear .270 and it is reliable as gravity. Dead nuts. Took the longest deer shot ever with it. 270 yards and right through the heart. Dot reticle.

Anyway... next time you are on 91 going through Northhampton... as you head North, look left and you will see a really tall square building/tower... about 20 feet on each side. With four rectangular holes near the top of it. That is Kollmorgen's Periscope Testing building. Every periscope gets assembled and tested in there before it gets sent off to Electric Boat or... whoever.

And that's who made your scope. Heck, maybe your ashtray, too! And why Kollmorgen Scopes are awesome. Even if un-heard-of!

Cheers,

Sirhr

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I know the USMC MC1 scopes are supposed to be amazing.

Redfield bought Kollmorgen stuff but I don’t think they were as nice as the Kollmorgen line based on my example of one.

I’ll find some pics and come back.

Post your 5.56 AR Loads here

Ill Start off

23.6gr 8208XBR
77 SMK
1xLC Brass
205M

2710
20" WOA

I'm looking for a FFl website designer. Like everything it's a deep rabbit hole for me. I wasn't really aware of all the plug in's and monthly cost associated with a basic website. Like to get some input from folks that's already traveled this journey.

New in package NSN# 5995-01-454-7124. Pressure tape switch. See pics. May fit others lights and lasers
$15 mailed

Hyperlite Mountain Gear Versa Ultralight Fanny Pack, black, new/unused. I have a problem with accumulating gear I think I'll use but don't. Turns out I'm good at holding onto things and organizing them. No rips, holes, tears etc. Purchased new, by me, through HMG and haven't used.

$65.00 TYD USPS Priority. Paypal friends and family with no note or add fee's.

They have thumbs and a clue. Once they realize what it is and how easy a mark meth heads are...

LTT 1301 with around 100 rds through it. Has all the aridus parts from Langdon.

Asking 1400 shipped obo.

Over the past 12 years I've been addressing the shortcomings of Larue Rifles by Rebarreling and enhancing them to a level that a 4K+ rifle should perform, mostly out of necessity for myself and other shooter's who want more out of their Precision Gassers and were tired of waiting on the promise of optional Calibers like the 6.5 Creedmoor and 6mm Creedmoor.

In this review I will be discussing the modifications and enhancements I've made to my personal Larue rifles that has truly transformed them to exceptional .3 MOA rifles with 100% reliability.

As many of us know Larue Large Frame Gassers have always been in a category considered as heavily proprietary, and seem to perform best when using Larue and Larue only part's.

Due to the nature of LaRue LF rifles being designed specifically to work best with LaRue products sometimes it can be extremely frustrating for Shooters who have already spent thousands of dollars acquiring non LT suppressors that don't seem to play well (depending on Flow design) with thier current rifles and in some cases require troubleshooting and tuning of the Buffering Mass and Spring Rates and even then it can still be finicky, especially when running multiple hand loads that may be at a lower pressure compared to factory ammo ultimately causing a variety of malfunctions.

The majority of malfunctions can be contributed to LaRue's Port Select Gas system. The (PST) can be extremely effective but offers a very narrow window of operation that can negatively affect reliability when introducing any changes that may push it out of its designed operational tolerances, it's just not a one size fit all design.

Unfortunately not many people understand how the (PST) Gas Block works. Removing the Larue PST AGB isn't difficult if you know what you're doing, there's tons of incorrect information that the ignorant regurgitate and pass on especially with the ARF.COM know- it -all's.

Most think the Larue PST AGB turns off/switches between two different sized gas ports, the smaller most forward Gas Port for Surpressed and the rear largest Port for unsuppressed. While that theory would make sense that's not how it works.


As mentioned above the Larue (PST) AGB and Barrels utilize two different sized ports that control the flow of gas. Keep in mind the actual Gas Block portion itself is only about 1" and the remaining is to house the parts for the port selector.

As shown below the Port Select lever actually only controls the smaller port, it doesn't even come close to the Larger port that ALWAYS remains open.


The Large port actually does double duty, when the (PST) is set in the Surpressed mode the single small port in the switch shown above in the Surpressed setting is rotated blocking off gas to the smallest gas port.

Once you throw the gas selector switch over to Unsurpassed the selector with the small port rotates over and aligns with the small Gas Block port allowing that extra gas needed to come up and to be fed/transferred back to the larger rear port feeding all the gas into one port and increasing the gas flow.




As you can see from the picture above when you shine a light in the port selector bore that runs directly underneath the gas tube and it runs the entire length of both ports.

Hopefully this clears up some of the details of the (PST) and its limitations.

The OBR

There's no denying when Mark LaRue came up with the design of the OBR he truly invented something quite special, with its 100% True Free Floating barrel design and 20 MOA monolithic one peice top rail, all incorporated into probably what is the most robust heavy duty receiver and handguard design that is damn near indestructible.

Over the years I've Rebarreled more Large and Small Frame OBR's than I can count. There are some slight differences between the two, they both directly attach the handguard to the uppper by four Torx screws but the Large frame uses a direct attachment to the handguard / Mono 20 MOA top rail and the small frame utilizes a type of tongue and groove design that secures the handguard by pinching the 10 MOA monorail in place.


Throughout all the Larue's I've worked on I've come across a few that where in fact not free floating due to the barrel nut making contact inside the handguard, mostly OBR's. It pays to remove your handguard and look for obvious signs of the barrel nut making contact. To alleviate this issue I just removed material from inside the handguard around where the barrel nut sits.


With the OBR having a shorter Handguard I decided to have Paul Ross turn me a Custom 18" 6.5CM Bartlein.

Starting from the Muzzle Brake to the Stock here is the build list breakdown as it currently sits.

Area 419 Hellfire Match 6.5 Muzzle Brake.

Custom 18" 6.5CM / 4 Groove Bartlein/ M110 Contour / Oversized Barrel extension for mandatory thermofit / 1-8 Twist / .875 Gas Block Journal/ 5/8x24 Threads and Rifle Length Gas System headspaced to the Updated Larue HP Small Firing Pin bolt, and have since upgraded to all Larue HP bolts.

Seekins Precision switch lever .875 Adjustable Gas Block. (Will be replacing with a Rifle Speed AGB). Again having the capability to fine tune the gas system over the Larue PST has been a fantastic upgrade that has solved any and all functioning issues no matter what ammo or suppressors are used on the rifle.

Battle Arms Development 60/90 Ambi Safety.

Ergo Grip

Raidian Raptor Ambi Charging Handle.

Due to the Short 18" 6.5CM with RLG I'm running a H3 JP SCS with the stiffest Red/Yellow Spring inside a Dark Hour 11 position Carbine Buffer tube that allows for ultra fine Length of Pull Adjustments when running a stock like the B5 Precision, I have since moved back to the Magpul PRS Lite Adjustable Stock.

JP Ambi Magazine Releases.

Triggertech AR10 Two Stage Diamond with Pro Curved Trigger Shoe.








The original barrel was a LW-50 Pre XTRAXN and shot decent with a consistent .75 MOA average. As I'm sure everyone here has heard tales from LaRue Fanboys how thier OBR is a Sub Half MOA all day gun, but in reality the people who boast about their accuracy try to substantiate these claims by posting a few cherry picked groups. I don't think I've ever seen anyone shoot a 6x5 to show thier true MOA average.

The Upgrades on this have truly transformed the rifle in to what a 4K + Gasser should be with a honest Sub Half MOA average.

While performing load development the OBR still averaged Sub 1/2" MOA.

I ended up selecting 140 ELD /40.4gr H4350 / Lapua SRP Brass / CCI BR4 Primers. Most of my 6.5CM Bartlein Barrels that Paul Ross turned all shoot this load very well.




Part (2) .308 FDE PredatAR Coming tomorrow. 28MAR24

Part (3) PredatOBR .308/6.5CM Coming 29MAR24

I'm sure I'm not catching everything here, but these are the items that have been released or announced this month with my thoughts and comments based on what I've heard so far.

• Schmidt & Bender FFP version of Meta 3-18x42 with FML-TR1 type reticle - this could prove to be a really nice option with PM II turrets and alternative to some of the smaller MPVO's, at 44.5' FOV at 3x for the SFP version if they keep the FFP close this might be an impressive alternative to the 2.5-20 scopes. At around 27oz this could shake some things up, but sounds like we need to wait until summer for this one.
• ZCO 2-10x30 MPVO single turn turret with 12mrad up and 2mrad below zero. A very expensive MPVO but I also imagine along with the price tag comes the best optical performance we have seen yet for this range. Coupled with the new reticles that are the best FFP reticles I've seen to date for MPVO these could prove very promising!
• Leupold new CMR-Mil reticle for 2-10x30. Okay, so it took Leupold 2 years to bring a usable MPVO reticle to market and I still think the reticle could use some improvements, apparently Leupold doesn't think anyone will be dialing this scope because wind holds are essentially non-existing on the main horizontal line, at least they could have given us dots if they didn't want to run the line through the horseshoe.
• Primary Arms PLxC 2.5-20x48 - this could be pretty exciting. PA is known for punching above their class in terms of optical-mechanical performance and I expect this new 2.5-20 will impress, but the bigger question is the reticles, the Athena G2 and Neptune just seem way too busy which leaves the DEKA G2 which could be really nice especially if it works at 2.5x, but that's a big if.
• Primary Arms PLxC 4.5-36x56 - while I am excited about the 2.5-20 not so much with this 4.5-36, similar to Kahles, why use 8x erector for competition oriented scope, with already strong competition from numerous outstanding 6-36x56 designs, I'm not sure what appeal of going down to 4.5x is? Maybe there is some hidden market I am not seeing?
• Kahles K540i 5-40x56 Ultra Wide Angle eyepiece - after almost 20 years of their questionable patent, Swarovski finally takes advantage of the ultra wide angle eyepiece. However, why the 8x erector? The K328i wasn't the best option to start with, so more excitement over this one for sure. With this scope aimed at the competition community I just don't know many who've been asking for such a high erector, instead the community tends to prefer more forgiving designs. Did Kahles engineers figure out some kind of optical formula magic or will this scope struggle to be as forgiving as its counterparts at the price point? Would love to see this side by side with the ZCO 8-40x56, TT 7-35x56 and March Gen2 5-42x56... if I can source or fund some of these I may try to review these later this year.
• Burris XTR PS 3.3-18x50mm and 5.5-30x56 - using their new HUD gives Revic a run for the money, looks like Burris may have even improved upon the knurling which was one of my biggest gripes in previous releases. The HUD looks very promising and the new clickless turret sounds interesting. Consider me impressed, I may look to review one at some point as I've always liked the idea of HUD where I don't have to break cheekweld for changes.
• Leapers scopes from Taiwan. Price is pretty high. Not sure if the market is ready for Taiwanese scopes at this price point, but I imagine they are impressive for the price and may be worth looking into.
• Meprolight scopes from Taiwan. Similar to above on Leapers, maybe same OEM?
• Telson optics 5-32x56 Japanese mfr - starting to see more and more companies pop up with options, unless they are priced right not sure how many people will take a chance on them.
• SAI 10 1-10x24 finally makes its debut, I've been talking about this one for a couple years now but have been told "no", well now it's reality and it's very short and very light, possibly the lightest 1-10 on the market. The SAI 6 is my favorite 1-6 LPVO so I have high hopes for this SAI 10 as long as ATI didn't cut too many corners to make it so short and so light.
• Apex 1-10x24 LPVO assembled in USA - interesting that this Canadian company felt they needed to assemble in the USA, the decision was likely made before Trudeau decided to become a hermit and live out the rest of his exile in Saskatchewan.
• US Optics X Line - yay, more scopes from China... (that was a joke by the way) come on USO, you used to be a dominant force in the high end scope world, let's get some new and innovative designs for your higher end series.
• Meopta under new ownership (2023?), revamping product line, MeoForce DF is new tactical line, these could be really good.
• Primary Arms HTX-1 enclosed RDS, completely made in USA even the glass! Lock deck height to co-witness with standard height irons. This could bring some serious competition to Trijicon and Aimpoint, but pricing the optic close to these major competitors who have already established a solid name for themselves along with military contracts may hinder sales a bit. But it is nice to see someone besides Vortex AMG going full MAGA!
• Apex Vapor 1-4x22 Prismatic - clever design with built in multiplier, wonder if it would work with NODS?
• Zerotech 1-4 prism (motorized zoom) what on earth?
• EOTech compact SFP 3-9x with ACOG compatible mount but with strange MOA reticle - EOTech continues to show they don't understand the market, not sure this is a scope that a bunch of hunters have been asking for, I assume it's going to be pretty finicky but maybe my assumptions are wrong. I think EOTech could help this model with a mil/mil version and a reticle that works better for the gas gun crowd.
• Hi-Lux has super short scopes in 3-12 and 4-16 - wonder if these are same OEM as GPO which also has super shorts in the same mag ranges... coincidence? Either way, I'm not sure yet where these super short designs fit in, I expect them to be pretty finicky and not have the greatest reticles for low mag use, but who knows, maybe we'll all be surprised.

Feel free to add your thoughts, comments or additions for any daytime optics I may have missed.

I have a Browning high power made in Belgium and assembled in Portugal. It seem to be made in the early 90,s. please feel free to ask question, I know very little about this gun but will answer the best I can.

$1,350 shipped.


$1,150 shipped
open to offers.

Here's a great piece of gear I want to share with the community! With AI and modern internet dodginess, small businesses can be hard to find; I don't see anything currently on the hide. Additionally messing up our AI guided searches, this comes from a hunting guide and mainly bow hunting company.

It's the best case I've found and used to date, and I've been using it for several years now and have several. It's simple, slick nylon inside and out (helps retrieval and transport packing), big zippers, folds flat, built in shoulder strap, and fair price. No BS gimmicks or tacticool nonsense. For and Range, suppressors, hunting, cars, trucks, XL bipods, NVG, Thermal, other BS attached, or airport hard case liner transport it's a go-to. “Drag bag” if you want, it’ll preform better than a BS tactical bag.

Rut-N-Ready Canned Up Rifle Case 53"


*I have no affiliation or conflict of interest; all purchased full price, and very happy!

Just a guy who likes to shoot - don't compete or anything. Looking to upgrade from the Tikka CTR 24" 6.5 CM that I've had for the last 7-8 years. But I'm a dad with a teacher wife so budget is important...so options are listed in increasing level of cost. Priorities with this new rifle is a 20" barrel for a suppressor and just setting round count back to 0 since I think mine is nearing being shot out (could still sell for a few bucks to a hunter or someone who isn't gonna put a ton of rounds down it). Still shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads as of right now, but it's a mile long with my can on it.

1 - buy a Tikka 20" CTR and stick my Manners stock on it (boring but affordable - would probably cerakote the new gun so would cost a few bucks)
2 - put a Bartlein on my Tikka (around $1300 with fluting, cerakote, gunsmithing, etc.)
3 - sell the Tikka for around $900 and buy a Horizon Firearms Vandal X or Prime (seem to be around $2300-$2400 street price, so nearly the same as option 2)

Which would you guys do?

Up for grabs is a unused Kestrel 5700 with Hornday 4DOF installed. Never used, sat as a back up to my other 5700 and figured it could use a home where it will actually see use! $380 tyd

This is the ZCO made throw lever. It matches perfectly with the lines on the ZCO magnification ring. Like new, no marks or scratches.

$85 obo shipped

USO FDN 25x with JVCR Reticle in great condition - $1800 Shipped
Comes with AADmount Covers and throw lever.
The scope has just been serviced by USO and is in excellent condition see pictures

Carbon fiber 8" leg extensions for CkyePod....I picked these up from a member here and never used them so asking $65.00 shipped.

Savage 110 Elite Precision 223 ( Less than 150 rounds)
MDT ACC Premier Chassis
MDT Internal Weights
MDT External Weights
MDT Baker Wings
MDT Data Card Holder
MDT Bag Rider
(Scope has been Sold)

Price Drop $1400 plus shipping to FFL or best offer

New, never installed.

Updated with new set. Loggerhead hardware with standard and long posts.

SOLD $65 shipped

I am looking to get an action wrench for a Terminus Zeus QC SA.

Who’s got them? I NEED them haha

$550 shipped. Eotech EXPS3-2. Night Vision Compatible. Pre-owned but in excellent condition.

Swaro 8x42 NL Pures, just back from being serviced by Swarovski. I'm the second owner, I bought them on Rokslide, previous owner bought them from an authorized dealer. Hunted in CO and had them in the deer blind last fall. Sent them to be serviced to address some scratches on the lenses.

All four lenses replaced and professionally cleaned and inspected ($378.88). They're currently sealed in the plastic as they were sent back to me and I'll leave them this way for the next owner. Box and all accessories included.

They look brand spanking new, shipped TYD for $2550.

PM for more pictures. Happy to send pictures of the binos prior to servicing.