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New Member from Southern Illinois

Hope you all are doing well. I’ve been lurking/reading/studying for years but am finally diving into forum membership. I hope to learn more about reloading for PRS and purchase some of the custom accessories that are sometimes offered here.
I am writing from Southern Illinois where I enjoy rich land and water resources.
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SOLD Vortex Razor 6-36 Gen 3 MRAD NIB

For sale is a brand-new in box Vortex Razor® HD Gen III 6-36x56 FFP scope.

Price: $2,350 shipped to CONUS. If insurance is desired, will be paid by buyer. PayPal F&F, if goods and services, fee paid by buyer.

Box has never been opened as seen in the sealed sticker in the photo.

First public "I'll take it" gets it, send a DM as well.

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Accuracy issue complaint

So a customer calls me and says he has a problem with his rifle and wants me to rebarrel it, so I said sure send me the rifle and I will take a look at it. Rifle arrives, took it out and shot it, sure enough it has problems but instead of selling him a barrel I will be selling him a chassis. Shot great once I put it into my foundation test stock.
I am purposely not going to mention the chassis that it was in but you can see for yourself the best deal always isn't the best deal, pay a little bit more and get a quality chassis and forgo these types of issues.

*** On edit that is not play that is flex *** action screws were tight and NOT bottoming out on barrel tenon.
also NOT an MPA product. We use, recommend and sell MPA and Foundation 99 % of the time.

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Hornady high speed 3 in 1 case trimmer

What's everyone's thoughts on the new case trimmer by Hornady? Looks eerily similar to another design. I'm liking the micro meter adjustment though. Thinking about pre ordering one to try it out.

SOLD Aero Solus BA 6.5 Creed Timney Trigger 22"

Aero Solus Action With Aero Precision 22" 6.5 Creed Barrel and Older Timney 510 Trigger (the elite hunter now) ..........BA has 104 rds Fired and has been right at 3/4 MOA with 140gr ELDs which is all I've shot in it ..........Was not a factory BA from Aero but both pieces are Aero Precision ...The Barrel is a 22" Stainless but coated Black Sendero Contour and threaded 5/8x24 and will come with thread protector ..........SOLD shipped no trigger............

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Firearms Colt M2012 .308 Rifle

Up for sale is a lightly used Colt M2012 in 308. Probably has 500 rounds through it, mostly of norma or federal match ammo. This is the model that has a spiral fluted barrel. The original muzzle brake has been replaced with one made by my local gunsmith, he also coated the rifle as well. I added a area419 rail and adjustable cheek rest to it. Will not come with a mag unless I can find the original 5 round mag. Could add a lightly used 10 round mag for an additional fee. Asking 1700 shipped and insured to your ffl. I would rather they accept from a private individual, if not please add $25 for the transfer fee from my ffl.

Payment via PP, Venmo, or USPS MO

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Out of the box problems with my ZCO 527

Not looking to bash any manufacturer here, am looking to see if there have been similar instances to my experience and the best way others have solved these problems.

Yes, I know this is a long post and that there are plenty of people out there running ZCO’s that haven’t had problems, am not looking for input similar to, “I’ve had several and never had a problem”, I’m looking for folks that have had problems to post. Yes, I also know that after searching the forums here that there are a number of people very passionate about ZCO’s, again I am not looking to bash any manufacturer.

The gist:
I bought a new ZCO 527 with a 3X reticle and a new Spuhr mount (SP-6602) for one of my rimfire PRS rings (22LR for those not familiar). Yes, I have a ton of experience mounting scopes and building PRS rifles with high quality glass. I used the Spuhr because of having good prior success with them mounting NF’s and Leupolds on them, plus I needed the extra elevation due to shooting rimfire at distance. No, I didn’t drop, bang, assault or otherwise use this glass as a hammer before I had issues.

Mounting: I centered the reticle bell in the middle of the mount and torqued the ring screws to 18 inch lbs. I don’t like over tightening rings on my glass and yes I know ZCO says you can go up to 25 inch lbs.

I zeroed at a local indoor range and shot some good 10-shot groups, totaling about 100 rounds. I did have to come down 3.4MIL from the factory zero to find my own.

I then shot about 50 rounds over the weekend outdoors at distance to validate DOPE with a few other shooters. While shooting, twice I noticed the reticle “drop” ~4MIL after adjusting elevation between 150yds and 200yds and sending a round. When I say “drop”, I mean that while watching the round land, the reticle dropped ~4MIL at recoil. Both rounds landed at the location the reticle dropped to, ~4MIL below the targett. Both instances were also the first round after adjusting elevation. Initially, I thought it was just me.

Sunday, I shot a PRS match with it at RTSS (love that place). The second stage was at 220yds, 7.9MIL of elevation for my DOPE. First two rounds were ~5MIL low, it surprised me. I adjusted the turret up 5MIL and reengaged. That 3rd round landed in the same spot as the first 2. I adjusted the turret up again 5MIL and the 4th round landed in the same spot as the first 3. I halted my COF and took a 0, didn’t want to introduce more of a safety concern.

I went back to the zero board and after returning the turret to 0, a round landed correctly, dead-nuts at my zero. After adjusting up 1mil and firing, that round landed at 0.3MIL higher than the first, not the 1MIL I expected. I then adjusted up 5 more MIL, 6MIL in total, and that rounded landed at 1.3MIL of elevation, not the 6MIL I expected.

I changed scopes for my old NF and shot the rest of the match, glad I brought it.

After the match, I had 3 other shooters verify the same thing I was seeing. I also adjusted the windage knob Left 6MIL and back about 3 when I heard a loud click inside the reticle bell. Another shooter heard this as well. After dialing everything back to zero and sending a few rounds, impacts were 3MIL left of zero. The reticle had moved 3MIL left from its zero.

I can see something happening like this once in a blue moon, the shocking part of yesterday was that another shooter, with his brand new ZCO 527 came up to me after the match and said he had nearly the same problem I did, that morning, at that same match. 2 brand new ZCOs going down at the same match just doesn’t sound right.

Needless to say, I am very disappointed and I have low confidence running a ZCO again in a match. I do intend to send mine back to ZCO for repair but spending ~$4K on glass and having this type of issue is just a kick in the pants. Is ZCO having a quality problem? Anyone have good advice on repair or mounting? I’d very much like to hear if others have had similar situations and how they were or weren’t corrected.

Rifle Scopes ATACR 7–35 Made in Japan vs. USA – Material difference, stripped set screw, mount issue, MK5HD comparison

Hi everyone,

I’ve been a long-time user of Nightforce optics and recently ran into some issues and observations I’d like feedback on.

1.
ATACR 7–35 “Made in Japan” vs. “Made in USA” – material differences

I previously used a US-made ATACR 5–25×, and recently switched to a Japan-marked ATACR 7–35×. During turret adjustment, the elevation dial’s set screw stripped.

Does anyone know if there is a difference in material or hardness for the elevation set screw or turret components between US- and Japan-marked ATACRs?

Also — not looking to get replacement parts — but does anyone know the specs or thread size of the elevation set screw?

2.
Nightforce mount thread issue — SPUHR alternative?

While using a Nightforce one-piece mount, I noticed the screw threads deformed slightly when removing the optic.

Has anyone experienced this? Would a SPUHR mount offer better thread strength or durability? I’m considering switching due to better machining tolerances.

3.
MK5HD vs ATACR 7–35 — real-world usability

I’ve used both the ATACR 7–35×56 and Leupold MK5HD 7–35×56.

While ATACR may have better optics, I find:
  • MK5HD’s ZeroLock system is easier and more field-friendly
  • ATACR’s zero stop requires small screws that are easy to lose
  • Turret resistance differs between ATACR units
What are your thoughts on the MK5HD 7–35× vs. ATACR 7–35× in real-world field use?

Which do you prefer based on turret feel, zeroing speed, and durability — not just glass?



Thanks in advance!

PRS Talk 6.5 Creedmoor Factory Ammo for PRS - Recommendations?

Hey all, I'm looking for some advice on factory offerings for 6.5 Creedmoor. I've shot 2 regional matches and 1 pro series match with Hornady 140 ELDMs, but ran into some dope issues that cost me some points. I should've adjusted but the moment got to me. Chrono'd the next stage and had SD near 20 and ES over 50. I shoot out West so I typically will see targets past 1000 yards in most matches.

Is there anything comparable at the same price point? Not able to get into reloading at this point. Looking at Norma 130 GT, Federal, etc.

26" 1:8 twist barrel.
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SOLD ZCO 5-27 MPCT3x | Hawkins 1.5” Mount

Used ZCO 5-27x with mpct3x reticle, locking turret, 15 mil. This was on a Vudoo 22 so has not seen hard use. Something came up that I want to buy so I’m using this to leverage some funds. If the item I want sells prior I will pull the ad.

Hawkins 1.5” mount and sunshade are included

$3650 shipped. $3500 shipped for all

$3375 shipped without the mount.

Hawkins mount $200 shipped

Package deal is pending sale


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Firearms Accurate Ordnance 6.5 SAUM

For sale is an Accurate Ordnance built 6.5 SAUM. The rifle has 193 rounds through it and was used for rec shooting and deer hunting. It is in excellent condition. I'll include all 193 pieces of the 1X fired brass (130 pcs of Hornady and 63 pieces of Bertram). PM with questions. Only trades I'll consider would be a near identical build in 6.5 PRC (carbon barrel, titanium action and a manners stock). Scope, bipod, break sling, stock pack etc not included. I have a few glamour shots from AO but can get more pictures if interested. $3,900 shipped to your FFL.

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