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Alleges Theft of Valor

Oh I know how the roles are played and in what order. I was simply referring to someone’s opinion on roofing being a more dangerous job than military. Figured I’d throw the two together and see how they rated.

There are few cogs in the big wheel that aren’t needed.

It wasn’t my opinion, it was fact based on the DoD and OSHA numbers.


Now how much of the quite large gap between the higher death rates in roofing (or other 6 industries more dangerous than the mil) vs the military would close if we included E1-2, I don’t know.
 
I bet less than 5% of dead roofers could have passed a drug test.

So now we are supposed to be proud of drug addicts who's job is dangerous because they are far more likely to be convicted felons, drug users and high school drop outs with the inability to use safety equipment. Oh, celebrate the brave meth smoker who feel off the roof while saving America from damp drywall.............................................he is the hero of Trouser Trout.
 
I bet less than 5% of dead roofers could have passed a drug test.

So now we are supposed to be proud of drug addicts who's job is dangerous because they are far more likely to be convicted felons, drug users and high school drop outs with the inability to use safety equipment. Oh, celebrate the brave meth smoker who feel off the roof while saving America from damp drywall.............................................he is the hero of Trouser Trout.

Just to confirm, so a roofer smokes weed and is evil and a “drug addict”, but all the pills the VA gives for the dx they give out like a fucking pez dispenser, that’s cool?

Frankly if you’re a patriot you know the “war on drugs” is un America from the start.

You know all the founding fathers would be considered “addicts” in our neo puritanical BS right?


This thread is kinda feeling like explaining to a little kid that Santa isn’t real
 
Had a SSgt (USAF E-5) working for me in Korea that went out of his way to get every medal/ribbon available to him. He would volunteer for deployments if it might get extra decorations for his ribbon rack. He was a decent guy, not much of a worker though. Dude had more skittles on his chest than almost every CMSgt. I was "that guy" that would show up to clothing sales the day before ALS or the NCO Academy to build a new rack because I had a bunch stuff missing...hardly ever wore blues/service dress.
I'm with you. I had about a half dozen ribbons earned but not awarded because of lazy awards and decs office. And then the douche snco in charge of the office had the audacity to call me out on my armed forces ribbon in front of the squadron. Also in front of the squadron the flight chief stepped forward to set him straight. (Ribbon earned in previous squadron on top secret mission - where I met some dude that goes by LAV back in the 90's)
Anyway, the fruit salad never meant much to me until retirement.... then it was too late.
 
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Just to confirm, so a roofer smokes weed and is evil and a “drug addict”, but all the pills the VA gives for the dx they give out like a fucking pez dispenser, that’s cool?

Frankly if you’re a patriot you know the “war on drugs” is un America from the start.

You know all the founding fathers would be considered “addicts” in our neo puritanical BS right?


This thread is kinda feeling like explaining to a little kid that Santa isn’t real

Please oh king of the Fucktards, explain how this became a thread on the "War on Drugs"?

Then take a moment to explain how accidents people have when they are drunk or stoned are not the fault of the drugs or alcohol. We have time oh King of the Fucktards to hear more of your ignorant blather.

To say you are a fucking idiot is literally to offend all the other fucking idiots in the world by comparing them to a shit stain like you.
 
Please oh king of the Fucktards, explain how this became a thread on the "War on Drugs"?

Then take a moment to explain how accidents people have when they are drunk or stoned are not the fault of the drugs or alcohol. We have time oh King of the Fucktards to hear more of your ignorant blather.

To say you are a fucking idiot is literally to offend all the other fucking idiots in the world by comparing them to a shit stain like you.

Maybe we should drug test you, because you brought drugs up 😂

Also if a person fucks up its on them, don’t much care why they fucked up, ends and all that.
 
Oh I know how the roles are played and in what order. I was simply referring to someone’s opinion on roofing being a more dangerous job than military. Figured I’d throw the two together and see how they rated.

There are few cogs in the big wheel that aren’t needed.
You know, I have a couple of nephews that are roofer contractors doing this for the last 35 years. I don't ever recall them complaining about a vbied or a rpg ambush... ymmv
 
Death is death
Perhaps, but how one arrives there varies widely in its method and/or horror.

I'd say that watching a meth head fall off a roof and breaking his neck is not nearly the same ptsd creating effect as watching a buddy get vaporized by a rpg and you scraping up the remains with a stick and a spoon to place in a bag/flag draped coffin labeled only as "portions 1-10".
I am intimately familiar with the latter. So don't pontificate any further on the issue and understand that you are completely out of your lane.
 
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Perhaps, but how one arrives there varies widely in its method and/or horror.

Not really, but getting killed on the tax payers dime ($100,000.00 payout and “hero” status) is much easier on your family, vs as a tax payer (poor house and daddy died at a accident at work) ;)
 
You're a real asshole aren't you? Worse, you enjoy it.

No, I am just stating facts, like I said it’s like telling kids Santa isn’t real. Sorry to mess up your “heros”

The political prisoners of January 6 are more heroic than a door kicker in Afghanistan
 
No, I am just stating facts, like I said it’s like telling kids Santa isn’t real. Sorry to mess up your “heros”

The political prisoners of January 6 are more heroic than a door kicker in Afghanistan
Just wow. I'm out.
 
Maybe we should drug test you, because you brought drugs up 😂

Also if a person fucks up its on them, don’t much care why they fucked up, ends and all that.


More fucktard logic from the King of the Fucktards.

Please oh Fucktard King, explain how mentioning someone else's drug use is a sign of me using drugs? Do you think all cops arresting people for drug possession are in fact on drugs because they caught someone on drugs?

I bet your mom wishes she had that abortion when she sees how fucking stupid you are.

You would not know a "fact" if it was hatching an egg on your head. Your ability to use facts or factual information to extrapolate an intelligent conclusion is non-existent. When you equate a Marine fighting in Iraq in 2006 to a meth smoking roofer..........................................you have proven beyond all doubt you are fucked in the head.
 
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Just wow. I'm out.
More fucktard logic from the King of the Fucktards.

Please oh Fucktard King, explain how mentioning someone else's drug use is sign of me using drugs? Do you think all cops arresting people for drug possession are in fact on drugs because they caught someone on drugs?

I bet your mom wishes she had that abortion when she sees how fucking stupid you are.

Cool insult,
so you claim you didn’t bring up drug use first?
per your comment on your un substantiated claim roofers are on drugs?


Want to compare drug use based on dx for vets? You don’t want to go down that path FYI

Also, even if we go with your theory, at least the roofer pays for his weed, vs the tax payers who pay for the lunch box worth of pills the VA recommends.
 
Sorry, but it is what it is

Read up on how this nation came to be, and tell me which group had more in common with those who crafted America
You aren't sorry... nor will be.

I am very well versed on the subject of how this country came to be and I will wager my education against yours any day (I did not have public education).

You, instead would do well to be introspective and figure out why you're so fucked up.
 
You aren't sorry... nor will be.

I am very well versed on the subject of how this country came to be and I will wager my education against yours any day (I did not have public education).

You, instead would do well to be introspective and figure out why you're so fucked up.

Well aside from a argument of claimed authority, state your case sir
 
Cool insult,
so you claim you didn’t bring up drug use first?
per your comment on your un substantiated claim roofers are on drugs?


Want to compare drug use based on dx for vets? You don’t want to go down that path FYI

Also, even if we go with your theory, at least the roofer pays for his weed, vs the tax payers who pay for the lunch box worth of pills the VA recommends.


Try to focus oh Shit for Brains.......................................try.


This all started with you being far to valuable a person to have wasted time serving your nation, therefore you hate the military and support people who steal valor.

Now you are the roofers best friend and you feel roofers are braver and risk their lives far more than people who serve their country.

Oh, and you are mad that the VA supports veteran's.

I did not claim roofers are on drugs. Having hired roofers dozens of times, I know for an absolute certainty that 90% of roofers cannot pass a fucking drug test or get a TWIC card. Both are required for some jobs and every time this requirement pops up, the number of bidders drops alarmingly.

You really sound like a guy who wet the bed after 12 years old or took ADD drugs into adulthood and was disqualified from serving, so you are mad.
 
Try to focus oh Shit for Brains.......................................try.


This all started with you being far to valuable a person to have wasted time serving your nation, therefore you hate the military and support people who steal valor.

Now you are the roofers best friend and you feel roofers are braver and risk their lives far more than people who serve their country.

Oh, and you are mad that the VA supports veteran's.

I did not claim roofers are on drugs. Having hired roofers dozens of times, I know for an absolute certainty that 90% of roofers cannot pass a fucking drug test or get a TWIC card. Both are required for some jobs and every time this requirement pops up, the number of bidders drops alarmingly.

You really sound like a guy who wet the bed after 12 years old or took ADD drugs into adulthood and was disqualified from serving, so you are mad.

Well you did bring up drug usage first, or shall I screen shot and post?

The VA gives out diagnosis (dx) like fucking candy, would you care for me to cite, i could

I support a military that protects my country, but fucking with the Middle East ain’t that, my “national guard” is more likely to be sent to DC to keep Americans away from our elected officials than our own southern boarder

I think giving vets diagnosis which can hurt them more than a fucking felony record isn’t helping them.

So you said 90% of roofers are on drugs, and can’t get some card, please cite your source. [I cited mine]
 
Where did you mention what country the men who hijacked the planes were from?

Plus how many did our actions over there radicalize, oh yeah, didn’t we also leave the Taliban (who we are somehow friends with now) with a huge supply of our military hardware including attack helicopters.


Furthermore there are more ties to the wuhan flu being produced under the direct authority and $$ of china (and the US sadly) than there is connecting the hijackers to state government of Iraq and afgan

Yet we invade and occupy some shithole damn near third world Middle East nations, and send our athletes to compete in the pretty Olympics in china

Our national guard spends more time guarding our political elite than they do securing our nation from hordes trying to get in, because it’s more acceptable to use them to stop Americans than illegals.

A military is needed and important, but what ours has turned into isn’t that.

But I stand by the volunteer roofer having a more dangerous job, and giving back more to the PEOPLE not POLITICIANS of this great nation, than lots of the current military

That's a pretty lengthy explanation to arrive at the fact that you were too chickenshit to do what many of us have done.
 
That's a pretty lengthy explanation to arrive at the fact that you were too chickenshit to do what many of us have done.

Uhhh, right numbers are hard, my profession is more dangerous, isn’t force funded by Main Street, my training wasn’t paid for by tax payers, etc

Oh and I don’t claim “valor” or give a shit if someone claims to do what I do when they obviously don’t
 
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Yeah, so cite some facts, or just keep rambling like a hysterical woman
Says the village idiot and Hide coward.

@lowlight ... can we change his moniker to Hide coward? This is not a report post. No, let him post and allow everyone to see for themselves his idiocy and disrespect and disregard for those who served honorably.
 
Says the village idiot and Hide coward.

@lowlight ... can we change his moniker to Hide coward? This is not a report post. No, let him post and allow everyone to see for themselves his idiocy and disrespect and disregard for those who served honorably.

You need to cry to your internet mommy or can you stand on your own?

Facts, you ether can back up your shit or you can’t
 
Well you did bring up drug usage first, or shall I screen shot and post?

The VA gives out diagnosis (dx) like fucking candy, would you care for me to cite, i could

I support a military that protects my country, but fucking with the Middle East ain’t that, my “national guard” is more likely to be sent to DC to keep Americans away from our elected officials than our own southern boarder

I think giving vets diagnosis which can hurt them more than a fucking felony record isn’t helping them.

So you said 90% of roofers are on drugs, and can’t get some card, please cite your source. [I cited mine]

Well Fucktard King, for the record the military did not insist on going to the middle east, Your friends Biden and Bush did.

Now you are a VA doctor, too? Who knew you were so talented, absolutely no one.

What vet ever got "diagnosed" a felon?

I'd say, read these articles,, but you are a fucking idiot and we know you will not.

https://roofingmagazine.com/high-ro...e National Survey,highest level of drug abuse.

Drugs in Construction

A 2017 study of opioid use among the building and construction trades was conducted by CNA, one of the country’s largest insurers of construction firms. It revealed that construction workers were among the most susceptible to opioid abuse, second only to those in food service.



Heroes all..........................................those brave roofers.
 
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Uhhh, right numbers are hard, my profession is more dangerous, isn’t force funded by Main Street, my training wasn’t paid for by tax payers, etc

Oh and I don’t claim “valor” or give a shit if someone claims to do what I do when they obviously don’t
His profession is more dangerous. San Francisco sewer inspector. Trained by homeless who navigate the sewers insearch of disposed needles, crack pipes, and higher thinking.
 
Uhhh, right numbers are hard, my profession is more dangerous, isn’t force funded by Main Street, my training wasn’t paid for by tax payers, etc

Oh and I don’t claim “valor” or give a shit if someone claims to do what I do when they obviously don’t


So King Fucktard, does your "profession" have a name? This "training", did it involve using Ninja claws to climb walls and throwing stars?


What "profession" is it that makes you braver and more skilled than SF guys, Recon Marines and SEALS? Are you out there racking up kills nightly? Skilled incursions across national borders, HALO jumps into North Korea to rescue James Bond perhaps? Or are you writing a unenforceable mall cop tickets to people who illegally parked in the "Green Vehicle only" spots?


If you can remember what your job title is, regale us with tales of your Roofer-like heroism. You get extra kudos if you are one of Joe Biden's Secret Service guys and you escort underage girls into the White House for him and Hunter.
 
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I think trout is a cop.

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@TurboTrout what do you (or have done) for a living that is so dangerous?

Point blank question, needs a point blank answer.
 
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@TurboTrout what do you (or have done) for a living that is so dangerous?

Point blank question, needs a point blank answer.

Aviation industry, and I don’t personally consider it “dangerous”, which is why I get a kick out of the far less dangerous jobs having near leftist reee level meltdowns about how dangerous or whatever their jobs are, biggest offenders are mil and LE, but teachers also bitch a ton about pretty much everything, like brah…you signed up for this, you wanted this, don’t like it lots of other jobs, but why arnt the people doing the more risky stuff crying as much or getting life style branded coffee or stripe/defaced American flags for their industry? And no I honestly don’t want my own fucked up colored American flag or shitty coffee brand.
 
Aviation industry, and I don’t personally consider it “dangerous”, which is why I get a kick out of the far less dangerous jobs having near leftist reee level meltdowns about how dangerous or whatever their jobs are, biggest offenders are mil and LE, but teachers also bitch a ton about pretty much everything, like brah…you signed up for this, you wanted this, don’t like it lots of other jobs, but why arnt the people doing the more risky stuff crying as much or getting life style branded coffee or stripe/defaced American flags for their industry? And no I honestly don’t want my own fucked up colored American flag or shitty coffee brand.
Flight Attendant doesn't count.
 
Lol, never even fucked one, I’m not exactly a 121 kinda guy, most look like something from rocky horror picture show theses days

Nice try though

Your mom still fat?

You seem to know a lot about gay man codes, you are to stupid to be a pilot, not smart enough to empty the shitter, not a gay flight attendant ( that was a surprise) and you claim to work in the extremely vague "aviation industry".

So what part of the industry has a lot of queers who are not intelligent and extremely opiniated assholes? Air traffic controller comes to mind.
 
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