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Dead Air Nomad-Ti:Dead Air Nomad-Ti:
Form 3: Delivered to Dealer on 5/29/2021 8:27:40 PM
Form 4 (Single Shot): Tax Stamp Cashed on 6/8/2021
Mine was also nomad ti. Just picked it up yesterday. I will be strictly using efile from now on.Dead Air Nomad-Ti:
Form 4 (Single Shot): Tax stamp cashed on 6/8/22
Approval: yesterday 6/21/22
379 days from tax stamp to approval![]()
If they can’t get it processed in a year they should have to automatically approve it @ day 365!
That’s what the Hearing Protection Act was going to do. 4473 and simple NICS check. But Paul Ryan (like a nutless pussy) shelved the vote when he had enough votes in 2018, after the Vegas false flag.How about 3 days like a NICS check for a firearm? That's what the FBI checks when they run the so-called "background check."
EDIT: In a perfect world, we wouldn't have any of this silliness to deal with. We could walk in any gun store and buy a can.
Yep, certified on 2/7 and still no word.Anyone else still waiting on eForm Form 4 approval from early February? There is no rhyme or reason to the way these are approved. Some have been approved in 30 days or less, and others are going on month 5+
Anyone else still waiting on eForm Form 4 approval from early February? There is no rhyme or reason to the way these are approved. Some have been approved in 30 days or less, and others are going on month 5+
Mine was denied in late May- certified Feb 10. I figure that if my dealer hadn’t fucked up id have been approved then…Anyone else still waiting on eForm Form 4 approval from early February? There is no rhyme or reason to the way these are approved. Some have been approved in 30 days or less, and others are going on month 5+
If you got the email with your stamp my understanding is you can get it now.eFile 4/4/22
Approved 6/23/22
How long does it take before I can pick it up from my FFL?
Sorry to everyone still waiting. If it makes you feel any better I waited almost a year for my 1st one.
Yep, like was mentioned... If you got the ATF email with the stamp, then you can go to your dealer and get it immediately following. Your dealer should have received a copy of the same email.eFile 4/4/22
Approved 6/23/22
How long does it take before I can pick it up from my FFL?
Sorry to everyone still waiting. If it makes you feel any better I waited almost a year for my 1st one.
Oh cool. I certified 2 that same say. Maybe I'll get lucky too.eFile 4/4/22
Approved 6/23/22
How long does it take before I can pick it up from my FFL?
Sorry to everyone still waiting. If it makes you feel any better I waited almost a year for my 1st one.
So, it was the FBI? NICS? If so, that means your background check was done with PROCEED then it’s back w the ATF do do whatever the fuck they do.@Baron23, thanks again for providing the FBI contact info. I heard back from a nice woman this AM informing me that my application was APPROVED.
Now I did contact my Congressman last week and his staff did send an inquiry to the ATF and FBI regarding my application. So not sure if it is all coincidence and it was going to be approved today regardless. But with my luck, if I hadn't pursued it on my end I probably would be waiting God knows how much longer.
I woke up this AM to two emails in my inbox. One was from the FBI NICS division in response to the email I sent them. It said I was approved and to contact the ATF. The second was an automated email from ATF telling me I was approved and had a pdf attached of my tax stamp. This was an eForm application.So, it was the FBI? NICS? If so, that means your background check was done with PROCEED then it’s back w the ATF do do whatever the fuck they do.
Or was it ATF who said your form 4 was approved?
Haha. This waiting sucks…...... back of the line! New fish!....
Efile - 136 days...![]()
Eventually, the new system will be slower than the old system. Theoretically, electronic systems allow for increased efficiency- each examiner can process more files per day than with the paper system. Some bean counter will see this increased efficiency and reduce staffing. But, being bean counters, the math will not add up and the new electronic system will be worse than the old paper system. Count on it.2 weeks ago people were arguing with me that e form approvals are 90 days and my response was that was true a month ago but now they're 4 months and they're trending towards 5 months. I think the mean average of people waiting on E forms are within a week to a week and a half of being 5 month approvals. I wonder when it is going to cap out? 5-6 month approvals? A year ago I was getting paper 4's back in 8 months
You're bringing me down with your negativity.Eventually, the new system will be slower than the old system. Theoretically, electronic systems allow for increased efficiency- each examiner can process more files per day than with the paper system. Some bean counter will see this increased efficiency and reduce staffing. But, being bean counters, the math will not add up and the new electronic system will be worse than the old paper system. Count on it.
My feeling is that the wait has a lot to do with the case load of the local examiners. Some may just not be as busy (or industrious) as others...When I picked up my can this morning I spoke to the owner of the shop. Supposedly this is Silencer Shop's largest dealer in the country. He told me eForm form 4's have been taking an average of 4 months. I was just shy of 5 months, so in the ballpark I suppose.
But it makes me wonder how some people have gotten approved in 30-90 days. Luck of the draw? State dependent? A lot of praying? WTF is the process? No one seems to know for sure and ATF ain't telling apparently.
I think you may be right. So are examiners assigned specific states? Or are they just assigned randomly? I think it may be by state because over on the huge Reddit thread there was a bunch of people from AZ that were approved in something crazy like 2-4 WEEKS.My feeling is that the wait has a lot to do with the case load of the local examiners. Some may just not be as busy (or industrious) as others...
I know they were assigned to regions at a time, not sure if it is still that way. I used to know the names of a few and which ones you hoped you didn't fall under.I think you may be right. So are examiners assigned specific states? Or are they just assigned randomly? I think it may be by state because over on the huge Reddit thread there was a bunch of people from AZ that were approved in something crazy like 2-4 WEEKS.
141 days until my approval this morning for
Maine must be one of the slow as slug states. Lucky me…I know they were assigned to regions at a time, not sure if it is still that way. I used to know the names of a few and which ones you hoped you didn't fall under.
I was sitting here thinking the same thing. One of the treads I'm already seeing by the postings here it's starting to take longer and longer for those who e-filed to get approved. In another two to three months, we'll start seeing e-file number creeping upwards to 150-170 days.Eventually, the new system will be slower than the old system. Theoretically, electronic systems allow for increased efficiency- each examiner can process more files per day than with the paper system. Some bean counter will see this increased efficiency and reduce staffing. But, being bean counters, the math will not add up and the new electronic system will be worse than the old paper system. Count on it.
Except the ATF was going e-file whether the public wanted it or not. "3 months to approval" is the marketing department spin.I don't see any real difference to the consumer between a paper form 4 or e-file form 4in terms of initiating an application. If you used silencer shop or Capital Armory before it's pretty much the same except the additional requirement to certify with someone. The big difference was supposed to be wait times. If that's not going to be the case this whole thing is much ado about nothing plus 8 to 10 months of disruption.
Oops typo yes oct 2021 to June 2022Oct '21? Jun '22?
You didn't fill out your own eform did you?
Then we start submitting Paper Form 4's again, and getting them back in a month like Form 1's.Eventually, the new system will be slower than the old system. Theoretically, electronic systems allow for increased efficiency- each examiner can process more files per day than with the paper system. Some bean counter will see this increased efficiency and reduce staffing. But, being bean counters, the math will not add up and the new electronic system will be worse than the old paper system. Count on it.