Department of energy purchased 50k$ of m16’s

[Jgault]

I’m not sure if it’s even possible to justify why a department which in the past has been exclusively a agency that deals with regulatory issues would need this many firearms, it’s fairly obvious the government intends to arm itself in every instance while disarming it’s citizens. Rather ironic considering the mantra “you don’t need a ar”, but evidently people that have no official government use for them do.

 

[Docsherm]

You know that they have tactical teams that guard and defends all Nuclear reactors and the transportation or radioactive material?

So, $50k is probably just an annual replacement budget.

 

[blbennett1288]

That's like what 25-35 rifles?

 

[UKDslayer]

You know that they have tactical teams that guard and defens all Nuclear reactors and the transportation or radioactive material?

Yup. Did a PR2/Fieldcraft course with some. And I kicked their butt in the "Run & Gun" Final. One was batch*t crazy - he somehow got the position in lieu of serving time via a guard position. Don't ask me - but that's what he said. I think he might on here (SH). But yes, our nuke facilities needing guarding. But why the IRS and HHS etc.?

 

[308pirate]

I’m not sure if it’s even possible to justify why a department which in the past has been exclusively a agency that deals with regulatory issues would need this many firearms, it’s fairly obvious the government intends to arm itself in every instance while disarming it’s citizens. Rather ironic considering the mantra “you don’t need a ar”, but evidently people that have no official government use for them do.

You're about to look very dumb here in a minute

National Nuclear Security Administration

NNSA is a semi-autonomous Department of Energy agency responsible for enhancing national security through the military application of nuclear science.

www.energy.gov

Office of Secure Transportation

OST is responsible for the safe and secure transport in the contiguous United States of government-owned special nuclear materials.

www.energy.gov

 

[AngryKoala]

That's like what 25-35 rifles?

Depends if they got them off gunbroker or not.

 

[Waorani]

 

[Jgault]

You're about to look very dumb here in a minute

National Nuclear Security Administration

NNSA is a semi-autonomous Department of Energy agency responsible for enhancing national security through the military application of nuclear science.

www.energy.gov

Office of Secure Transportation

OST is responsible for the safe and secure transport in the contiguous United States of government-owned special nuclear materials.

www.energy.gov

The ost has its own budget separate from the department of energy, as does the national nuclear security administration, 22 billion last year alone. While given 50k in weapons isn’t that much in the grand scheme of things it is concerning to me that the government is arming from the top down. If it would have been ether of the agencies you mentioned purchasing weapons I probably wouldn’t have batted as a eye.

 

[308pirate]

The ost has its own budget separate from the department of energy, as does the national nuclear security administration, 22 billion last year alone.

How do you know the idiot in the video you quoted as a source didn't confuse the three?

If you can find budget information for OST and NNSA, why are you relying on some rando on youtube for this?

 

[Rocketvapor]

Another thread about NEWS.

There was News. What news? Doesn't matter, there was news.
Good News of bad news? Doesn't matter, there was news.

 

[BullGear]

This is less of a story than the IRS buying that much ammo.

 

[Jgault]

It’s possible that he could have confused the two, but in the past he’s been generally correct. It’s not hard to see that government agencies are arming more than in the past, my hometown which is very small now has a armored personnel carrier. In any case as me posting the video shouldn’t get your panties in a bunch, I ignore allot of what you post(I did however really like the video on trigger discipline you posted very helpful thank you). On why I didn’t read the budget instead of the video? I’m not even sure one person would have enough time in a year to read all government budgets to find line items such as the expenditure in the video, so there are videos of what others notice I find interesting.

 

[Jgault]

This is less of a story than the IRS buying that much ammo.

Probably true

 

[HeavyAssault]

Cause death from radiation sickness takes too long....jeez....it's science...just not rocket science.

 

[akmike47]

Every few years I see the same type of stories.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

That's like what 25-35 rifles?

M-16s are fully automatic. I’m thinking two.

 

[akmike47]

M-16s are fully automatic. I’m thinking two.

They don’t pay nfa prices though lol. I even always heard it claimed they pay around 700/rifle supposedly.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

I’m not sure if it’s even possible to justify why a department which in the past has been exclusively a agency that deals with regulatory issues would need this many firearms, it’s fairly obvious the government intends to arm itself in every instance while disarming it’s citizens. Rather ironic considering the mantra “you don’t need a ar”, but evidently people that have no official government use for them do.

Thank you for the dumbest and most ignorant post of the day. Please post less.

DOE has some of the most heavily armed and best trained Federal Law Enforcement officers in the country. Every day there are nuclear weapons, materials, waste and parts traveling on US highways. Who do you think protects and escorts them?

Its not like protecting nuclear materials or national security assets are worth it right.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

They don’t pay nfa prices though lol. I even always heard it claimed they pay around 700/rifle supposedly.

But it’s the federal government, who pays $10,000 for a hammer.
I’m sticking with two.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

The ost has its own budget separate from the department of energy, as does the national nuclear security administration, 22 billion last year alone. While given 50k in weapons isn’t that much in the grand scheme of things it is concerning to me that the government is arming from the top down. If it would have been ether of the agencies you mentioned purchasing weapons I probably wouldn’t have batted as a eye.

NNSA Budget falls within DOE budget, like many of their programs. There is also the self funded sub agencies but many of them have their own borrowing authority. Not all sites are exclusivley NNSA, they are joint/CRGF/ect with other defense and energy program offices.

But what the fuck do I know, I only spent half my adult life working as a Budget/Procurement Analyst for Big DOE and Small DOE.

$50k is not even a rounding error, You can't even get a retarded door greeter for $50K via contracting.

DOE has alot of sensitive sites and many of them contain shit that that needs the highest level of protection. The Gear and Training is as good or better than anything else in the US government, maybe short of the USSS.

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

Imagine if the potato in chief hadn’t left $80,000,000,000 worth of arms in Afghanistan, he could have just given the DOE a couple of those firearms, and saved $50,000.

 

[TXAZ]

This is less of a story than the IRS buying that much ammo.

Maybe not. When I was a Fed contractor, sometimes one agency would use other agency’s contract officers if theirs were all tied up.
And sometimes when they wanted to anonymize the acquisition.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

But it’s the federal government, who pays $10,000 for a hammer.
I’m sticking with two.

Its not $10,000 for a hammer from home depot.

Its $6000 for a hammer that only one is being made, of an exotic material that is not needed, in a dimension that makes no sense and coated in a way that makes it prohibitively expensive. Instead of the GOV saying this is what we are trying to do, come up with a solution (Performance work statement), they use a Statement of Work with design specs made by overpaid and underworked bored engineers who do not care about wasting taxpayer money.

Then there is the $2000 worth of profit that the company needs to make on the contract to make this even worth it.

The the other $2000 is for compliance, documentation, certification, training, insurance bonding and a whole host of other shit that is required to satisfy the 87 addendums, contingencies, appendices and clauses.

That is how you get a $10K hammer. Or its going to be used in space where its costs 100 times that to lift it into orbit and you need to make sure its safe and as lightweight as possible while still being able to perform to its design specs.

The $30K toilet seat was a one off, space shuttle part. Everyting aereospace is stupid expensive. Anything going into a space is an order of magnitude more. Context matters.

 

[rtB]

Thank you for the dumbest and most ignorant post of the day.

Well, the day isn't over yet, so there is still hope.

 

[DeathBeforeDismount]

Maybe not. When I was a Fed contractor, sometimes one agency would use other agency’s contract officers if theirs were all tied up.
And sometimes when they wanted to anonymize the acquisition.

Many contracts are awarded as IDIQ and open for other agencies to tap into. GSA and a few others, this is their purpose for existance. It gets the government the best price through vollume and saves alot of time and money having to procure ricky dick shit needed to opperate a gov agency.

Core of Engineers has a ton of different contracts, cooperative agreements and grants you can tap into. They are already negotiated and you can get the services performed almost immediate, you just pay them a fee for oversight (10%ish, which is WAY cheaper than the cost of a full blown procurement in man hours).

A large portion of the US government buys their Dell computers from a NASA contract that has been going on for 20+ years.

ect ect ect.

Like you said, its also a great way to clandestinley purchase things without it going up on FedBizOps. Budgets and expendetures in certain agencies are very tightly guarded for the obvious. An adversary can reverse engineer and get an idea what you are buying and where you are spending money. There are enough spies in the government that they need to keep shit as compartmentalized as possible to maintain national security.

 

[acudaowner]

smart move getting them now along with the ammo to go with them before the government tried to put those companies out of business and take the citizens guns to stock up every department of the left's government and to use that same citizens money to buy them lol is just brilliant .

I am more shocked biden did not hand out those m-16's and ammo to violent prisoners on there way out the prison gates ( a sign of reparations for there incarceration) or hand them to antifa and the blm for there mostly peaceful protests .

 

[Srgt. Hulka]

Its not $10,000 for a hammer from home depot.

Its $6000 for a hammer that only one is being made, of an exotic material that is not needed, in a dimension that makes no sense and coated in a way that makes it prohibitively expensive. Instead of the GOV saying this is what we are trying to do, come up with a solution (Performance work statement), they use a Statement of Work with design specs made by overpaid and underworked bored engineers who do not care about wasting taxpayer money.

Then there is the $2000 worth of profit that the company needs to make on the contract to make this even worth it.

The the other $2000 is for compliance, documentation, certification, training, insurance bonding and a whole host of other shit that is required to satisfy the 87 addendums, contingencies, appendices and clauses.

That is how you get a $10K hammer. Or its going to be used in space where its costs 100 times that to lift it into orbit and you need to make sure its safe and as lightweight as possible while still being able to perform to its design specs.

The $30K toilet seat was a one off, space shuttle part. Everyting aereospace is stupid expensive. Anything going into a space is an order of magnitude more. Context matters.

Thanks for that, but my post was more tongue in cheek.

 

[GUN NUT in IA]

Thanks for that, but my post was more tongue in cheek.

$10,000 hammers are chicken feed.

You should see what they spend on tongue depressors.