Ok, I give, just frustrated and looking for solutions to an IMHO unfair situationThe government does not care about businesses unless they are big businesses far larger than any suppressor or gun company which they would prefer went under
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See the contestOk, I give, just frustrated and looking for solutions to an IMHO unfair situationThe government does not care about businesses unless they are big businesses far larger than any suppressor or gun company which they would prefer went under
And ChinaLoL. That's exactly who the government works for. Corporations and their big budget lobby groups
Yep, I am at 134 days. I might send Kennedy a message next week.I'm convinced I would still be waiting had I not contacted my Congressman. I'm the least patient person on Sniper's Hide. It's the reason I didn't buy a can before eForms. I refuse to wait 8-12+ months for permission to get my own property.
So when 120 days passed and I still had not been approved, I said fuck it, and called my Congressman. Especially when I was seeing dozens and dozens of people posting that they had been approved in 30-90 days. If I were you guys that are still waiting on an eForm that is over 4 months, I would be calling my Rep today.
I just saw on silencershop that q45-151 is current avg for eforms trust and individualApproved today at 151 days. Eform/ trust.
Certified 2/7/22
Approved 7/8/22
I'm at 90 today. It seems eforms have no fucking consistency whatsoever. It's not like the old style eform 1s that were 14 days. 30 during the holidays.Yep. Been saying that for weeks now. People still want to act like 140 - 150 day approvals are the outliers
Oh I agree. I wish it was the same speed as a 4473. Would make life easier all around.It's the same demand, or possibly even more. I don't see the examiners going faster with a form. The savings are in cutting out all the snail mail shit. That's upwards of 2 months right there. Which checks out given I was getting stamps back in 8 months this time last year.
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems.
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems.
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
Yes, that case, and ruling on said case, rules against the use of Chevron Deference, which means agencies can’t arbitrarily create rules and laws without first having them voted and approved through congress. So, that will bitch-slap the ATF and Biden and all these states creating bullshit laws to push their anti-gun agenda.Even if the NFA and various other laws aren't totally invalidated under the Bruen precedent, I'd think that a case based upon West Virginia v. EPA has the potential to cut through much of the random administrative rule-making that causes gun owners so much hassle.
I've been watching several videos on this newly announced info today... This case is a VERY strong case against the NFA, thanks to Clarence Thomas' final opinion on the Bruen vs. NYSRPA case, stating that there must be a history of such laws and regulations throughout out history and tradition in our country. Also, the lawsuit brings up legal comments made during the passage of the NFA, by the judge who passed it, stating that his entire reason for passing it was to deter people from owning such items with a high taxed value of the items, because he couldn't outright ban them, being that might draw some scrutiny and Constitutional problems.
We MIGHT actually see the unconstitutional NFA and Hughest Amendment get struck down very soon. This would also make the ATF pretty much irrelevant. Please Lord, let it happen!
Today is 7/11/22…. ? HahaEform 4 filled on 2/2/22. Approved today, 7/22/22.
Holy shit! A time traveler!Eform 4 filled on 2/2/22. Approved today, 7/22/22.
Sorry guys, it’s been a long dayHoly shit! A time traveler!
"I talked to an ATF agent from my local field office on June 28th. he was suprisingly helpful, and contacted the NFA branch to see what was going on with these wild approvals. This is what he said: The ATF had started out processing eform 4s by doing the background checks first. This was fine until they got overwhelmed with applications. This meant that they had run background checks for thousands of forms before they were processed. As the forms started to pile up, they were concerned that if they did a background check on a form that would not be processed for months, the background check would not be current. What they did was put all of those forms back in the stack. Now, they will do the background check with the FBI AFTER the form is processed. They explicitly said that it was not the FBIs fault. They did also say that they have just started on the February stack"
It doesn't explain why random April and March submittals are getting doneSaw this post on arfcom, originally posted in the NFA subreddit supposedly, so take it with a large 40lb bag of water softener salt:
This may explain some of the delays that some of us are experiencing.
Unless some of them were randomly pulled/assigned whatever but the majority went this way. No idea if it’s true or not just thought I’d pass it along.It doesn't explain why random April and March submittals are getting done
just got the call 5 months and 8 days efile
pick up tommorow
I'm 5 mo and 3, haha, let you know in a few days!Ouch. That's the longest I've heard of
About damned time.Approved today at 151 days. Eform/ trust.
Certified 2/7/22
Approved 7/8/22
So the approval on an efile goes only to the dealer and not both the buyer and dealer?eForm4. Single file. First NFA transaction.
Filed I think 1/10/22. Somewhere around there.
Approval email from ATF was sent to dealer on 6/16 but it hit their email spam filter and was discovered yesterday......
157 days with the ATF.
I was forwarded the stamp email. It looks like in addition to the dealer's email, it was Cc'd to an email address that was generated for me at the FFL's domain and input with the ATF. [email protected]. Instead of one that I actually have access to...? Or maybe I do have a way to get to it and didn't know it...?So the approval on an efile goes only to the dealer and not both the buyer and dealer?
Yes, sorry about that. Form4.There's plenty of 14-15 month horror stories on reddit about form 4s. Most form 1s are a bit over a month I think.
I assume you meant form 4?
I have 4 in jail right now. 1 from September on paper, 2 from April 2 on eforms and 1 from June 6 on eforms. That's 3 and a half months on the earliest eforms ones.
Hoping for a batch, but I doubt it.
Anybody do a legacy form4 and been past 14 months? I'm at 425 days today and getting irritated lol