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Accuracy International Picture Thread

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Doing some stupid things today.

-3° helps with ice testing.
 
Have you ever tried just...idk... not being wrong?
Tbh I’ve actually thought about spending a year attempting to learn to shoot bolt guns right handed, but fuck that’s just a lot of work when EVERYONE else makes lefty bolt guns. I run impact actions for PRS and a defiance for a hunting rig.

I just want them to import some LH models :(
 
Tbh I’ve actually thought about spending a year attempting to learn to shoot bolt guns right handed, but fuck that’s just a lot of work when EVERYONE else makes lefty bolt guns. I run impact actions for PRS and a defiance for a hunting rig.

I just want them to import some LH models :(
I have 2 of them an AT and an MC.

They will import some but be prepared to jump on them when they’re available. They go fast
 
Tbh I’ve actually thought about spending a year attempting to learn to shoot bolt guns right handed, but fuck that’s just a lot of work when EVERYONE else makes lefty bolt guns. I run impact actions for PRS and a defiance for a hunting rig.

I just want them to import some LH models :(
Are you left eye dominant or left hand? If left I then I completely understand but it might be worth picking up a really cheap 22lr and trying to get used to a right handed gun if it's just a hand preference.
 
So I don't have to sort through dozens of pages, can someone make my life easy.

How much is the bug holes 233 conversion and what all is needed for me to get it done? Also, for someone like me who machines his own barrels is there a spec or print for me to cut or do I have to do bugholes? Or is someone willing to send me theirs to get measurements.
 
So I don't have to sort through dozens of pages, can someone make my life easy.

How much is the bug holes 233 conversion and what all is needed for me to get it done? Also, for someone like me who machines his own barrels is there a spec or print for me to cut or do I have to do bugholes? Or is someone willing to send me theirs to get measurements.
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So I don't have to sort through dozens of pages, can someone make my life easy.

How much is the bug holes 233 conversion and what all is needed for me to get it done? Also, for someone like me who machines his own barrels is there a spec or print for me to cut or do I have to do bugholes? Or is someone willing to send me theirs to get measurements.
the bolts are hard to come by, this is the current bottleneck. Bolt head installed on your bolt $275, installed on a bolt I provide is over $1k as a new bolt (with fire control) is 800 or so. The tenon is non standard geometry, so it would be better if we did the barrel. There’s a cone feature on the breech face
 
the bolts are hard to come by, this is the current bottleneck. Bolt head installed on your bolt $275, installed on a bolt I provide is over $1k as a new bolt (with fire control) is 800 or so. The tenon is non standard geometry, so it would be better if we did the barrel. There’s a cone feature on the breech face
Thank you for that!
 
Any of the 6.5 shooters on here finding the same inconsistency issues as me with Hornady 140 eldms of late?

I buy one lot number and it’s a one hole .3- .5 moa max shooter. The next lot of ammo is barely moa. This is through my AX.
Yes, I've experienced this with their 140 ELDMs and 6CM 108 ELDMs - some lots were great, some were terrible.
 
Any of the 6.5 shooters on here finding the same inconsistency issues as me with Hornady 140 eldms of late?

I buy one lot number and it’s a one hole .3- .5 moa max shooter. The next lot of ammo is barely moa. This is through my AX.

I haven’t seen the accuracy change wildly like that. But I have seen the bearing surface change enough to affect velocity. I have an old lot that was 2725fps and new lot is 2770fps with everything else reloading being equal.
 
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Any of the 6.5 shooters on here finding the same inconsistency issues as me with Hornady 140 eldms of late?

I buy one lot number and it’s a one hole .3- .5 moa max shooter. The next lot of ammo is barely moa. This is through my AX.
I had a couple lots during covid with 90+ FPS ES

ETA: the 140gr ELD-Match factory hornady ammo, not just the bullets.
 
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Referring strictly to value for money, what does an AI offer in terms of reliability over a Tikka or Howa?
What metric are you using to determine "value for money"? Reliability in what conditions? There are alot of questions you aren't asking or even answering from people mate. Now you are going and calling people names too. Just not necessary at all. You can't expect to come onto this particular thread and attempt to smash AI rifles without any actual explanation or experience. It is ok to no own an AI or even be able to afford one. There is a rifle for everyone and their uses or hip pocket. You are providing zero value to the thread.
 
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I had a Tikka. I now have an AI.

As with everything, the more expensive it becomes the more marginal the gains.

But in my opinion easily worth the money.
I've no problem with someone owning an AI just because they want an AI but, aside from just being "what you want" how is it "easily worth the money" in comparison to the Tikka. What does the AI do that the Tikka didn't?
 
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Of course not..................much much worse, especially for the price they're asking.
That's some high grade design & engineering right there.
One anomaly mate. That's the only AI I have ever seen that happen too. It was on this thread too. I've seen countless tikkas and remingtons etc break.

We haven't gotten down to the cause of your issues though. Still no statistically relevant data from you.

What is your personal experience with AI rifles? Answering this simple question may give you a small amount of credibility.
 
One anomaly mate. That's the only AI I have ever seen that happen too. It was on this thread too. I've seen countless tikkas and remingtons etc break.

We haven't gotten down to the cause of your issues though. Still no statistically relevant data from you.

What is your personal experience with AI rifles? Answering this simple question may give you a small amount of credibility.
No issues, just that they're 10 K & do nothing better than any other good quality rifle for a third the price.
Just want someone to tell me what an AI does that any other rifle can't do?
I've read this entire thread & I'm not suitably impressed.
AI's are no worse than other rifles but, they're no better either.
So if accuracy & reliability are comparable, why pay so much for a rifle with no practical distinguishing features?
 
Do I own an AI , no . Own tikka. I see no 3rd party making a replacement bolt for the AI you do the tikka. You come on the AI thread to just start shit nothing more. Post a picture of a broken bolt handle with no back story…..
 
No issues, just that they're 10 K & do nothing better than any other good quality rifle for a third the price.
Just want someone to tell me what an AI does that any other rifle can't do?
I've read this entire thread & I'm not suitably impressed.
AI's are no worse than other rifles but, they're no better either.
So if accuracy & reliability are comparable, why pay so much for a rifle with no practical distinguishing features?
First of all thank you for answering my question.

There are plenty of others on this thread with similar or more experience levels to me on this but here goes.

  • I've been at matches in the mud and rain where other rifles a third of the price have simply stopped working. Failure to fire all over the line. This includes high end custom guns. The guys (including myself) running AI rifles just kept on going.
  • Quick change barrel ability with repeatable return to zero.
  • Multiple cartridges in one system with change over in less than 2 minutes by the user in the field or at the range with no special tools.
  • For military and LEO units they don't have to lose their rifle for months on end to get a new barrel.
  • For civilians you don't lose your rifle for weeks or months on end to get a new barrel.
  • Prefit barrels on the shelf which most good barrel manufactures can spin up. (no bloody barrel extension to deal with unlike some others)
  • Arguably the best magazines on the market for any rifle system. Everybody else uses them or has copied them.
  • Modularity.
  • They have passed stringent controls and tests for military deployments. (including dust and ice testing)
  • Designed from the outset to be the best.
  • AI keyslot has been proven again and again to be the strongest attachment system.
  • 1 rifle can replace 5 or 6 in your safe (if not more). You can't shoot them all at the same time. I have the 308, 300 and 338 bolts for my AXSR. That's quite a versatile package. It has actually saved me money. Go figure.
  • The AI trigger (standard) is pretty much perfect for a hard use rifle. The competition trigger did have some teething issues granted. That seems to be resolved. I personally have had zero issues with any of my competition triggers.
I personally wasted many years with inferior rifle systems and custom guns. They all gave me some sort of issue over and over again.
Out of all the bolt guns in my safe the AI's see the most use. They do everything i want and more.
To me and many others on here, the extra money is definitely worth it.
 
First of all thank you for answering my question.

There are plenty of others on this thread with similar or more experience levels to me on this but here goes.

  • I've been at matches in the mud and rain where other rifles a third of the price have simply stopped working. Failure to fire all over the line. This includes high end custom guns. The guys (including myself) running AI rifles just kept on going.
  • Quick change barrel ability with repeatable return to zero.
  • Multiple cartridges in one system with change over in less than 2 minutes by the user in the field or at the range with no special tools.
  • For military and LEO units they don't have to lose their rifle for months on end to get a new barrel.
  • For civilians you don't lose your rifle for weeks or months on end to get a new barrel.
  • Prefit barrels on the shelf which most good barrel manufactures can spin up. (no bloody barrel extension to deal with unlike some others)
  • Arguably the best magazines on the market for any rifle system. Everybody else uses them or has copied them.
  • Modularity.
  • They have passed stringent controls and tests for military deployments. (including dust and ice testing)
  • Designed from the outset to be the best.
  • AI keyslot has been proven again and again to be the strongest attachment system.
  • 1 rifle can replace 5 or 6 in your safe (if not more). You can't shoot them all at the same time. I have the 308, 300 and 338 bolts for my AXSR. That's quite a versatile package. It has actually saved me money. Go figure.
  • The AI trigger (standard) is pretty much perfect for a hard use rifle. The competition trigger did have some teething issues granted. That seems to be resolved. I personally have had zero issues with any of my competition triggers.
I personally wasted many years with inferior rifle systems and custom guns. They all gave me some sort of issue over and over again.
Out of all the bolt guns in my safe the AI's see the most use. They do everything i want and more.
To me and many others on here, the extra money is definitely worth it.
Well said!!! If you KNOW you KNOW and a person will not KNOW until they own one.
 
I don't why it's so difficult to just admit that the rifle is grossly over priced, does essentially nothing better than any other quality PRS style rifle & doesn't even have good ergonomics but, you just want an AI.
First of all thank you for answering my question.

There are plenty of others on this thread with similar or more experience levels to me on this but here goes.

  • I've been at matches in the mud and rain where other rifles a third of the price have simply stopped working. Failure to fire all over the line. This includes high end custom guns. The guys (including myself) running AI rifles just kept on going.
  • Quick change barrel ability with repeatable return to zero.
  • Multiple cartridges in one system with change over in less than 2 minutes by the user in the field or at the range with no special tools.
  • For military and LEO units they don't have to lose their rifle for months on end to get a new barrel.
  • For civilians you don't lose your rifle for weeks or months on end to get a new barrel.
  • Prefit barrels on the shelf which most good barrel manufactures can spin up. (no bloody barrel extension to deal with unlike some others)
  • Arguably the best magazines on the market for any rifle system. Everybody else uses them or has copied them.
  • Modularity.
  • They have passed stringent controls and tests for military deployments. (including dust and ice testing)
  • Designed from the outset to be the best.
  • AI keyslot has been proven again and again to be the strongest attachment system.
  • 1 rifle can replace 5 or 6 in your safe (if not more). You can't shoot them all at the same time. I have the 308, 300 and 338 bolts for my AXSR. That's quite a versatile package. It has actually saved me money. Go figure.
  • The AI trigger (standard) is pretty much perfect for a hard use rifle. The competition trigger did have some teething issues granted. That seems to be resolved. I personally have had zero issues with any of my competition triggers.
I personally wasted many years with inferior rifle systems and custom guns. They all gave me some sort of issue over and over again.
Out of all the bolt guns in my safe the AI's see the most use. They do everything i want and more.
To me and many others on here, the extra money is definitely worth it.
Finally a sensible answer. (not aimed at you PrecisionRifleGuy)
Aside from your 1st point, you have a reasonable argument. Just as there were some rifles which didn't function, there are plenty 1/3 the price that do.
The quick change barrel system is unquestionably a luxury that very few guys can practically justify the necessity of.
Shouldered barrels are no problem to swap & take but a few minutes if necessary in the field which, for the vast majority of shooters, it isn't.
Multiple cartridges in one system, most of which the average shooter has no need of or propensity for.
Key slot system is very good but, totally unnecessary for most shooters.
1 rifle can replace 5 or 6, yes, but so can many other custom rifles which utilize a floating bolt head which, is all that's really necessary, less weight, far less expense for the customer & has been tried & proven for decades.
AI triggers are an interesting subject. Not withstanding that the rifles are confined & thus relegated to the proprietary trigger system, I find it truly remarkable that a rifle company supplying new trigger systems would allow those designs to reach their customers with the faults they had.
Although this situation is not unique to AI, I find it remarkable when the price of both the rifle & triggers are considered in perspective.

For the record, about 5 years ago, I was all set to order an AI. After speaking with only one guy on the phone & hearing one opinion, aside from the usual fan boy antics & BS, I decided to seek a few more opinions by visiting some websites & PM some owners & in particular previous owners who, were all quite willing to answer my questions.
To cut a long story, I decided against the AI, not because they were inferior or had any issues worth noting or over & above any other brand of rifle. I decided against an AI because, for the average guy, shooting normal stuff, I simply couldn't justify the absurd price when compared to other rifles while keeping a firm grip of what a rifle actually does & is expected to do as opposed to all the fancy but absolutely unnecessary tricks the AI could do.
Since the proof is in the eating, why don't we see AI rifles with far higher representation in PRS when many of the competitors rifles are bumping the cost of an AI?
I've read many opinions on this question from top PRS competitors & although their comments are diplomatic, they certainly do carry weight which causes some pause with those who are more discerning than some others.
When we consider the fact that the vast majority of competitive shooters don't seem to be at all disadvantaged by not utilizing best of the best, I think the reality is obvious. AI rifles do nothing of significance better than any other quality competition rifle.
I don't at all regret my decision because there's one thing I hate more than anything &, that is paying for a reputation with no real world justification. Most of know that as being ripped off & would definitely have been ripped off.
I would have happily paid 6k or maybe even 7K but 10k,.......leave it to the suckers Jack.