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Stuck 22 inch rim

Alphatreedog

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    As the title suggest . I have a 22 inch rim stuck on my charger . I tried ;
    Loosening lugs and hard stops to loosen .
    4 x 4 and a sledge both sides repeatedly .
    I even loosened lug nuts and ran the fuckin curb against the inside of the rim/tire . I could see the motherfucker flexing in the mirror .
    Tried all of these multiple times . Thinking I'm at drilling out the fuckin studs .
    Whata ya got . Short of tannerite .
     
    Kroil everything, studs and between the wheel and disc brake, and let it set for a few hours. Spray more kroil on it again and let it set. Maybe drive the car a few feet forward and backward to get it to seep into the voids. Then try sitting down and kicking it from side to side.
     
    So all the lug nuts came off, but the rim is still frozen to the hub?

    Hit it with some heat and crank it off with a highlift Jack?
    My son was helping me swap to winter tires . He kept saying to put a jack / 4x4 between the rims and have at it . Gonna try some heat .
     
    Drilling out the studs won't gain you anything. Loosen and drive in a circle or use a bottle jack on its side. Might have to get creative to find something to jack against. Not sure what you have available but the curb might work as you mentioned earlier.
     
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    I'd say that there's corrosion between the wheel and the brake disc that's got it stuck together. Soaking in a penetrating oil and time will keep you from replacing expensive parts. You can put the lug nuts back on and still use the vehicle. Keep soaking and in a few days it'll break loose.
    If you are going to use a torch and brute force. Please video.
     
    Been there a few hundred times.
    Like others said, spray the mating surfaces down with a penetrating lube of whatever brand (Pblaster works real good and is easy to find, not like kroil).
    Put the lug nuts back on and drive it a few days.
    Try again in 2-3 days and just be persistent, it will come off if you kick the right side, then the left sitting on your ass and stomping is the best maneuver.
    A hammer will only hurt your wheel since hitting the tire won't do shit and hitting the wheel will fuck it's shit up.
     
    The mule kick has always worked for me
    kick one side a few times, then the other
    its more the vibration from the kicking that knocks it loose, so kick it for 10 minutes



    and clean that wheel hub and put some anti-seize on it :D
     
    Bs.

    A sledge hitting the tire helps big time.

    Also helps if while you’re hitting it you use a skidstter or come along or chain binder pulling the tire/wheel off
    Yea you're absolutely right.
    Hitting a large piece of rubber with a hammer transfers all sorts of......nothing since the rubber will dissipate the blows.
    Doh !

    I have removed hundreds of stuck wheels.
    How many have you done ?

    Obviously none because using a skidsteer (I assume that is what you were TRYING to spell) will probably bend or break the wheel.
    Using a comealong wouldn't hurt the wheel....would it ? Why yes, yes it would.
    Can't even imagine keeping a vehicle on jackstands (or whatever device) while you exert those kinds of pressures on it.

    1st step
    Be smarter than the object you are trying to repair.
    If not possible, see step 1.
     
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    Tell everyone you've never worked on cars without telling everyone youve never worked on cars 😂
    So, they don't use rubber pads to isolate vibration under turntables, washers and dryers (take the cover off and look dumbass).
    Tons of things are isolated from vibration and impacts by rubber.
    Like air compressors (and no, not that little home depot special you have, the big units that power a large shop).
     
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    Holy shit are you for real?

    So some rubber is used for damping....so it can never transmit forces? Lol

    Explain why rubber mallets exist then?

    Rubber buckshot doesn't transmit force?

    Lacrosse balls are notoriously soft after all

    Hardened steel is also used for damping.....in the form of springs.....so steel hammers are damping?


    Again....tell us you've never worked on cars without telling us youve never worked on cars.
    Holy shit...

    Are you still fucking slobbering drunk from last night ?
    No other possible excuse exists for being that slowped ass stupid.
     
    We use a long handle dead blow hammer at work. Hit it from the back side and rotate the wheel to hit in different areas. When you do get it off, coat the mating surfaces with a very light coating of anti seize. Modern hub centric wheels can be very tight, even on new vehicles.
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    Started in a small tire shop when I was 16 in upstate NY. Everything rusts and corrodes up there after the first winter. Putting the car in the air and hitting the tire on the sidewall with a big hammer is usually the easy way. Don't hit the wheel, if it's steel it will just bend, if it is aluminum then it can bend and/or break. We had some that we would loosen the lug nuts a few turns and then go drive around the yard and hit some bumps.
     
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    Loosen the lugs a 1/2 turn or so. Drive it a short distance and check to see if its loose. Repeat some more if it isn't. Once loose, tighten up the lugs and return back to your shop.
     
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    Been there a few hundred times.
    Like others said, spray the mating surfaces down with a penetrating lube of whatever brand (Pblaster works real good and is easy to find, not like kroil).
    Put the lug nuts back on and drive it a few days.
    Try again in 2-3 days and just be persistent, it will come off if you kick the right side, then the left sitting on your ass and stomping is the best maneuver.
    A hammer will only hurt your wheel since hitting the tire won't do shit and hitting the wheel will fuck it's shit up.
    Just make sure you don’t kick the tire because it will not transfer the force at all 🙄
     
    Bs.

    A sledge hitting the tire helps big time.

    Also helps if while you’re hitting it you use a skidstter or come along or chain binder pulling the tire/wheel off
    Yea you're absolutely right.
    Hitting a large piece of rubber with a hammer transfers all sorts of......nothing since the rubber will dissipate the blows.
    Doh !

    I have removed hundreds of stuck wheels.
    How many have you done ?

    Obviously none because using a skidsteer (I assume that is what you were TRYING to spell) will probably bend or break the wheel.
    Using a comealong wouldn't hurt the wheel....would it ? Why yes, yes it would.
    Can't even imagine keeping a vehicle on jackstands (or whatever device) while you exert those kinds of pressures on it.

    1st step
    Be smarter than the object you are trying to repair.
    If not possible, see step 1.
    Ya Burt. I bet you’ve never even changed a tire before.
     
    We use a long handle dead blow hammer at work. Hit it from the back side and rotate the wheel to hit in different areas. When you do get it off, coat the mating surfaces with a very light coating of anti seize. Modern hub centric wheels can be very tight, even on new vehicles.View attachment 8311759
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    "Light coating of anti seize"
    This needs to be done by the junior guy in the shop, the helpful neighbors or anyone else. Just looking at a bottle of that stuff and I walk around looking like the Tin Man for days. Shit gets everywhere just opening the bottle. Necessary evil !!
     
    As the title suggest . I have a 22 inch rim stuck on my charger . I tried ;
    Loosening lugs and hard stops to loosen .
    4 x 4 and a sledge both sides repeatedly .
    I even loosened lug nuts and ran the fuckin curb against the inside of the rim/tire . I could see the motherfucker flexing in the mirror .
    Tried all of these multiple times . Thinking I'm at drilling out the fuckin studs .
    Whata ya got . Short of tannerite .


    I'd Blast
     
    Hold some wood up to the wheel and beat it with a hammer alternate opposite sides. It'll break free. You can hit the tire too just watch out for the rebound.

    Y'all leave @BurtG alone this isnt his normal area of expertise. He's used to removing the stuck wheel from the hub after the hub assembly has already broken off.
     
    Wow, you can tell the bullshitters from us with experience . Why do people have to lie instead of admitting they don't have a clue ?
     
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    Fuck it!
     

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    Bs.

    A sledge hitting the tire helps big time.

    Also helps if while you’re hitting it you use a skidstter or come along or chain binder pulling the tire/wheel off
    This. I worked in a tire shop when I was in college. We had a big rubber sledge hammer specifically for knocking off frozen wheels. Jack it up leave a lug nut loosely on the stud and get under the car and hit it from backside. Keep spininnig it ans hitting it in diffrent places.

    If that doesn't work you could thread the lugs nut on loosely and drive it up and down the curb with increasing malice until it breaks loose. Or jack up the end with a stuck wheel with a highlight and push it over

    A little antisieze on the cone that centers your wheel never hurt anything.
     
    We use a long handle dead blow hammer at work. Hit it from the back side and rotate the wheel to hit in different areas. When you do get it off, coat the mating surfaces with a very light coating of anti seize. Modern hub centric wheels can be very tight, even on new vehicles.View attachment 8311759
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    THIS^^^^
    Leave a couple lug nuts on about 3 or 4 threads so it won't bounce/roll all over the shop when it comes off.

    Edit: hit the tire, from the inside, not the wheel. That is as long as the tire is not flat...
     
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    Jack the car up a bit and put one of these under there. The wheel might not come off but you won't be worrying about it anymore.
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    I’ve had pretty good luck with my lead hammer. Got lots of mass for impact, yet soft enough to deform if you hit the rim.

    Penetrating oil on the hub. Put a lug back on a few turns so the rim doesn’t fly off. Beat one side, spin 180 and hit it again. Persistence is key.

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    Spent 20 years in the dealer as the steering and suspension guy, ASE Master, GM and Jeep certified…then spent years as a Snapon dealer selling to those same businesses … you absolutely hit the tire. The tire sort of sets up a series of vibrations that shock the wheel loose.

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    Sometimes a mallet will suffice but as others said the sledge hammer is your best bet. Not only does it pack a punch but it allows you to be free and clear of having to be underneath the vehicle (assuming you’re using a jack and not a lift). I suppose some of you mule kickers are attacking the exterior side wall of the tire and if it isn’t super seized that may work to break it free but ideally you want to hit the inside side wall of the tire exerting the force outwards…. which goes hand in hand with leaving the lug nuts slightly threaded so it doesn’t go flying off and damage the rim. Even if you are using jack stands I wouldn’t recommend climbing underneath and kicking / applying brute force. I’ve seen many jacks fail this way and can result in death or serious injury. Much safer and cheaper to either buy or borrow the proper tool(s) or just bring it to a tire shop as most only charge $15-30 to remove or swap a tire.
     
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