Many around here who took the jab now showing same.

I worked for a small company that didn’t require the jab. During the two weeks to flatten the curve, but called me after one day and said fuck that, come back to work. My wife was a state employee, working as an educator for a state university. I don’t know how, but she wasn’t required to get the jab. My son was a student, and worked, at another state university, and somehow wasn’t required to get the jab. My daughter was a student at yet another state university, and she claimed religious reasons for not getting the jab. So my whole family was very lucky, and not forced to choose between the death jab and their jobs/education. I know which ones we would have chosen, and it wasn’t going to be the jab.
 
My wife and I worked all through the scamdemic, and fortunately weren't threatened to take the jab or lose our jobs.

When it started, we had a talk with our son and told him that if we were given an ultimatum, things would probably get very tight because neither one of us was going to get it.

Thankfully, we didn't have to follow through with that.
 
Another vax thread with vax/no vax stories… Sounds fun.

Just remember, no one was forced to take this jab. A lot of folks think they were, but they did it willingly.

I worked for a 10k employee corporation during the Covid BS, and they were paying employees 1,000 bucks to go get the jab. It was never a company mandate to get it, but it was highly encouraged, even to the extent of bribing their employees with money.
Needless to say I no longer work for them.
 
We didn't take the jab either. Luckily, we both were recently retired, so no work mandates.
Then, after some research, realizing that it came out too soon, then noticing that the "Invaders" were not required/mandated to get it, then hearing that .gov officials (Senate/House) were not mandated. We used the "3 strikes...I'm out" way of thinking and said F that.
Still feel good about our decision. Mac
 
"The scientific community has been left stunned after a group of leading scientists presented evidence..."

Well, a study of ten people that had a vaccine, five who felt symptoms the first time (fatigue, soreness, etc) vs five that didn't feel symptoms post vaccine. Measured skin temp and heart-rate (not even an EKG). Which scientist were stunned? Did they wear the halters to measure how much they were stunned?

I get it if the regular medical society suppresses the "truth". But really, if you are going to do a study.....do a real study and present the whole research paper - not just a 100-word abstract.
 
"The scientific community has been left stunned after a group of leading scientists presented evidence..."

Well, a study of ten people that had a vaccine, five who felt symptoms the first time (fatigue, soreness, etc) vs five that didn't feel symptoms post vaccine. Measured skin temp and heart-rate (not even an EKG). Which scientist were stunned? Did they wear the halters to measure how much they were stunned?

I get it if the regular medical society suppresses the "truth". But really, if you are going to do a study.....do a real study and present the whole research paper - not just a 100-word abstract.
Remember that there were hot lots of the vax and saline placebo lots. Kinda impossible for any conclusive independent study of the vax side effects when only the vax makers knew where the hot lots were concentrated. The general public was the clinical trial.
 
"The scientific community has been left stunned after a group of leading scientists presented evidence..."

Well, a study of ten people that had a vaccine, five who felt symptoms the first time (fatigue, soreness, etc) vs five that didn't feel symptoms post vaccine.

This…

…passes off as a “study?” 🤣
 
Day 1-2 of the roll out of covid I was driving across the country. News was saying state after state is shutting down schools.... declaring emergencies and scheduling for schools and other things to be shut down in 2 weeks. That was my indicator that it was all BS. Emergency and real situations require immediate action, not scheduled 2 weeks out. Its like saying that it is 105 degrees outside, as dry as its ever been, 50mph sustained winds for days, fire risk is at a 500% high, but we are going to schedule burn bans starting in 2 weeks. The scheduling of emergency shutdowns was the dumbest thing i ever heard.... everything said after was just as stupid and I didnt believe or listen to any of it. All BS. It was a planned attack from within our own govt. Sure as sht im not getting some injection they tell me is good. lol... All my nurse friends opposed it and said hell no.
It was an IQ test.
 
It was an IQ test.
For the bulk of a country that is supposed to be the envy of this rock falling for such stupid shit, the conclusion of years to come is bleak in my book.
Some of those I know that I thought were logical, see thru all B/S kind of folks, failed that test,... Their excuses of why they took it were not even remotely valid to me.
 
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For the bulk of a country that is supposed to be the envy of this rock falling for such stupid shit, the conclusion of years to come is bleak in my book.
Some of those I know that I thought were logical, see thru all B/S kind of folks, failed that test,... Their excuses of why they took it were not even remotely valid to me.
Same. I have some pretty bright friends that willingly walked down there and pulled up their sleeves. My wife was and is a state employee, an RN in fact at a state hospital, and even she managed to find a way around it. Most of the nurses at the facility also refused. In fact, very few of them agreed to take it. I wouldn't have taken that shot if the virus had a 50% mortality rate. Try your science experiments on other people, I'll put my healthy immune system up against some Chinese lab virus and see what happens. It turned out to be much like most things China makes: made plenty of noise, came in elaborate packaging, but in the end it was a pathetic piece of shit that ultimately did almost nothing and then fell apart. My whole family are purebloods, we don't jump under the table when a wormy little jew boy starts wining on television that the sky is falling and we are all going to die. I'm not sure it's fair to call it an IQ test though, might be more accurate to call it a "gullibility test", and the world largely failed.
 
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Not passing judgement at all on those who either did or didn’t get the vaccine and just expressing one guy’s opinion. As a microbiologist, it appears to me that when the coronavirus moved from the realm of microbiology and medicine to the political sphere ( I personally don’t think that there can be much debate that it did) it was game over. A country already divided politically almost overnight had a touch point through which to become even more divided.

It appears to me that a great distrust in our society of medicine and science, particularly the biological sciences, has been a major result of the entire affair. My greatest fear is that if the sun comes up on the day when we’re faced with an honest to God deadly pandemic ( you don’t even want to contemplate an aerosolized Ebola or Marburg , much less some unknown mutation) , the credibility of medical and research science in general has been so damaged that the results would be catastrophic. When perhaps as a society we should respond much as we did when the polio vaccine first became available, we’ll be racked with indecision and hesitancy, with fatal consequences. I hope I’m wrong.
 
It appears to me that a great distrust in our society of medicine and science, particularly the biological sciences, has been a major result of the entire affair. My greatest fear is that if the sun comes up on the day when we’re faced with an honest to God deadly pandemic ( you don’t even want to contemplate an aerosolized Ebola or Marburg , much less some unknown mutation) , the credibility of medical and research science in general has been so damaged that the results would be catastrophic. When perhaps as a society we should respond much as we did when the polio vaccine first became available, we’ll be racked with indecision and hesitancy, with fatal consequences. I hope I’m wrong.
You are correct. It will take bodies stacked up along side the road, zombies trying to break into my house, or people growing extra extremities overnight before i'd believe another thing the govt tells me related to this subject.
 
Not passing judgement at all on those who either did or didn’t get the vaccine and just expressing one guy’s opinion. As a microbiologist, it appears to me that when the coronavirus moved from the realm of microbiology and medicine to the political sphere ( I personally don’t think that there can be much debate that it did) it was game over. A country already divided politically almost overnight had a touch point through which to become even more divided.

It appears to me that a great distrust in our society of medicine and science, particularly the biological sciences, has been a major result of the entire affair. My greatest fear is that if the sun comes up on the day when we’re faced with an honest to God deadly pandemic ( you don’t even want to contemplate an aerosolized Ebola or Marburg , much less some unknown mutation) , the credibility of medical and research science in general has been so damaged that the results would be catastrophic. When perhaps as a society we should respond much as we did when the polio vaccine first became available, we’ll be racked with indecision and hesitancy, with fatal consequences. I hope I’m wrong.
Do me a favor sir, research that polio vaccine again without looking at a .gov source. The polio vaccine saving the world is a myth. There was a wave of misdiagnosis that led to the "epidemic" of polio. It was blamed for everything, kinda like covid deaths. The vaccine came out something like 2 years after polio had already come and gone, and at the time it was released, polio wasn't a problem anymore. They lied, (hard to believe, I know) in our text books about how Jonus Saulk saved the world. It didn't happen..
 
You are correct. It will take bodies stacked up along side the road, zombies trying to break into my house, or people growing extra extremities overnight before i'd believe another thing the govt tells me related to this subject.
Stop, I can only get so erect..

Zombies trying to break into my house? Next you're going to tell me that Selma Hyack is trying to rape me in your apocalypse. Enough man, I'm in.
 
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Stop, I can only get so erect..

Zombies trying to break into my house? Next you're going to tell me that Selma Hyack is trying to rape me in your apocalypse. Enough man, I'm in.

Now I have that song in my head.... Tito and the Tarantula's - "After Dark" ... good song. - From the movie "From Dusk till Dawn".... Band was playing it while Salma Hayek was doing her stripper dance. :D
 
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Do me a favor sir, research that polio vaccine again without looking at a .gov source. The polio vaccine saving the world is a myth. There was a wave of misdiagnosis that led to the "epidemic" of polio. It was blamed for everything, kinda like covid deaths. The vaccine came out something like 2 years after polio had already come and gone, and at the time it was released, polio wasn't a problem anymore. They lied, (hard to believe, I know) in our text books about how Jonus Saulk saved the world. It didn't happen..
The polio epidemic may seem like a lie until you are paralyzed. We have the luxury in living in a country it was basically eradicated from long ago, and the people who died from it or lived with profound life-long disabilities have passed away. You do realize that polio is still active in many other countries around the world, and that people are still being paralyzed from it?

Skepticism of the medical system and vaccines is not unreasonable. If you wait until people are dying in the streets en masse from blood streaming out of every orifice to consider a vaccine though, you are probably a bit behind the eight ball.
 
Skepticism of the medical system and vaccines is not unreasonable. If you wait until people are dying in the streets en masse from blood streaming out of every orifice to consider a vaccine though, you are probably a bit behind the eight ball.
One of the reasons some do not & have never conformed to main stream ways. The more you interact with people, plus not adhering to basic hygiene and health practice the better chance you have of "Going Main Stream". Even then, if you are living on top of one another and your immune system is if'y your still going to follow the herd off the cliff.
 
The polio epidemic may seem like a lie until you are paralyzed. We have the luxury in living in a country it was basically eradicated from long ago, and the people who died from it or lived with profound life-long disabilities have passed away. You do realize that polio is still active in many other countries around the world, and that people are still being paralyzed from it?

Skepticism of the medical system and vaccines is not unreasonable. If you wait until people are dying in the streets en masse from blood streaming out of every orifice to consider a vaccine though, you are probably a bit behind the eight ball.
Polio is asymptomatic for life in something like 99% of people. I think you might be walking around with 50 year old information in your head. It was not what they told you.
 
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Do me a favor sir, research that polio vaccine again without looking at a .gov source. The polio vaccine saving the world is a myth. There was a wave of misdiagnosis that led to the "epidemic" of polio. It was blamed for everything, kinda like covid deaths. The vaccine came out something like 2 years after polio had already come and gone, and at the time it was released, polio wasn't a problem anymore. They lied, (hard to believe, I know) in our text books about how Jonus Saulk saved the world. It didn't happen..
Ok.
 
Articles by people who can't read for people who can't read.

The research paper is about flu like and other symptoms in the first 72 hours after the second dose.

Not "major mutations" years after the shot.

You guys need to find a new boogie man.
 
The polio epidemic may seem like a lie until you are paralyzed. We have the luxury in living in a country it was basically eradicated from long ago, and the people who died from it or lived with profound life-long disabilities have passed away. You do realize that polio is still active in many other countries around the world, and that people are still being paralyzed from it?

Skepticism of the medical system and vaccines is not unreasonable. If you wait until people are dying in the streets en masse from blood streaming out of every orifice to consider a vaccine though, you are probably a bit behind the eight ball.
I’m probably older (77)than 90 % on Snipers Hide . I lived through the polio years and clearly remember the abject terror.