strange. I have had zero problems with my v4 for several years now. Using mostly varget, h1000, and n568.
Emotional roller coaster: 6 powder droppers in < 3 years!
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H1000 overthrows like a banshee for me
But it’s no match for H50BMG or n570. >25% overages completely unacceptable
But it’s no match for H50BMG or n570. >25% overages completely unacceptable
With N570 I run the shims and tip with good luck. I usually leave the sliders in the middle but sometimes I bump them up and can run faster.
The emptying is kind of a learning curve but I rarely spill powder any more.
This is a symptom that something in your configuration is not set up properly. Typically it is in the V4 settings but can be belts or scale settings.
I don’t get any overages but I also let it take its time at the end and have it set so that it backs off the speed well before the set weight. I don’t mind this so much because I charge at the same time I seat a bullet so between lubing the bullet and pressing it I get a perfectly adequate cycle time.
I have the shims and then beta testing those new tips and I can say the v4 is amazing with this new setup. Above i loaded 180 with like 5 overthrows
I need to get the tip, but this thing was to get me through to the IP only, and you know that saga, but I was disinclined to tinker only to receive teh IP system shortly after I got it dialed.
At this point I feel like a fool for not dialing the V4 immediately, I have wasted soooooo much time waiting on the IP using inferior systems I don't want to tinker with
At this point I feel like a fool for not dialing the V4 immediately, I have wasted soooooo much time waiting on the IP using inferior systems I don't want to tinker with
There is no need to disconnect the wires, just like there is no need for shims/tips or other such nonsense... But that's just my opinion from using my V4 since 2022. .02 is generally one kernel of many powders and .04 is generally about 2, maybe 3 kernels. Well within my tolerance. A world more accurate than my Chargemaster 1500.
I'm sure it's possible to do it without removing the wires but seems like it would be more difficult.
one Kernel of N570 is .08gr, I think N560 is .04 so there's that.
And don't forget some powders are not cut evenly, like RL15.5. .02 to .06 on the high end. I have also seen kernels stuck together with some powders, no getting around those issues.
It isn't really. I don't use the big bulky powders which is why I said many powders. Remove the hopper and place behind the rear window. Tip the V4 over the hopper and open the window. Give it a shake to empty the tubes and you are good to go. No need at all to disconnect the wire.
I'll try it next time. How ever disconnecting the wires is a non issue for me
I have found that, if I'm careful, I can empty it without disconnecting the wires. Just gotta have a process
I know a benchrest shooter and he puts a chargemaster in a cardboard box at the range and does load development. He shoots very small groups.
Go for seven! My PPTrickler is working well with stick powders, is inexpensive, fast, compact and simple.
I was watching a video from speedy Gonzalez at a br match and there were several chargemasters there.
Mine did good when it did good. Had good sd and shot good groups with it. I just got tired of the wandering scale and the overthrows every other charge. In speedys video he mentioned running it off a dc power pack kept the scale from creeping. Never got to try it with mine.
I ended up cutting the neck off a 7-08 case and putting it over the tube on the dispenser. Kind of like the straw mod. Made one from a 243 case also. It helped with overthrows a lot.
In the end my dispenser wigged out and would only run full blast. Still have the scale though.
Velocity hardly matters in benchrest and anything under 300 yards
Valid point. One of the best factory ammo groups through my winmag had an es of 230 fps. 150gr core-lokt. Shot it for fodder during break in. Shot one hole at 100 yards.
Man I totally get this thread. Had a charge master light, "upgraded" to a v3. Sold it because I hated feeling like I was going to rip the wires out ever time I emptied it.
Got a super trickler. Used it a handful of times then took an extended break from reloading.
Just getting ready to make some ammo this evening and I really don't have the energy to plug this thing in and screw with it.
Love my a&d but I'm thinking about selling the super, throwing onto the a&d then buying a hand trickler just so I don't have to fuck with another screen after a long day at work.
Got a super trickler. Used it a handful of times then took an extended break from reloading.
Just getting ready to make some ammo this evening and I really don't have the energy to plug this thing in and screw with it.
Love my a&d but I'm thinking about selling the super, throwing onto the a&d then buying a hand trickler just so I don't have to fuck with another screen after a long day at work.
You are making me glad I stuck with my RCBS powder dropper I got 44 years ago and mounted it above my FX120i scale that has a Ingenuity Trickler powered by a V3 brain to top off the dropped charge. All I have to do is pull the handle.
^this
I wish people would stop promising things they can’t deliver. If the match master is where we still are after all these years of fucking around with supposedly superior devices, then so be it. I shouldn’t have sold my two match Masters, anticipating the V4, which I then replaced with the super trickle, which I then replaced with a V2, which I then replaced with a V forwhich I now don’t enjoy using, so I keep waiting for the IP and tempted to buy the precision printed…
I wish people would stop promising things they can’t deliver. If the match master is where we still are after all these years of fucking around with supposedly superior devices, then so be it. I shouldn’t have sold my two match Masters, anticipating the V4, which I then replaced with the super trickle, which I then replaced with a V2, which I then replaced with a V forwhich I now don’t enjoy using, so I keep waiting for the IP and tempted to buy the precision printed…
I run a Match Master and while it may not be the very, very, very best....its still damn good and RCBS actually ships them.
So, until Paul ever releases is IP full system, I'll continue to use the Match Master.
I just can't help but wonder how fast I could go with this exact setup but substitute the v3 brain for my human brain and fingers. I haven't even owned a hand trickler in years now but not screwing with gizmos would give me a big headstart on time.
I used a hand trickler before I figured out I could use an Ingenuity trickler and V3 brains in my Fx120 and for sure, this set up is much faster than my hand trickling. It just doesn’t auto drop, but the cost to get it to do that, whenever it actually comes out, is not worth it to me. If I was competing, maybe it would be.
