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Ukraine war Bullshit.

So, Zelensky just updated his demands for peace.

1. No concessions on borders
I don't think they understand how war works. When you lose territory during war, it is no longer yours. It is not a concession, you lost it.

If they keep fighting, they risk loosing more.

Coups and wars have consequences.

 
So, Zelensky just updated his demands for peace.

1. No concessions on borders
2. No withdrawal from Donbas
3. Security guarantees from NATO
4. No demilitarization
5. Continued support of weapons from NATO
6. Russian reparations - 100's of billions in damages
7. Return of 20K "abducted" children and all POWs
8. No sanctions from Russia moving forward
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Well.

Mixed thoughts about conscription. I volunteered 4-6 months after Vietnam era deadline.

I'll just say conscription, to aid a foreign country is one thing to go all contietchus be about. Not mine.

But turning your back on your own country, well ---- fuck me.

I get not wanting to die for the likes of Z-boy but it's / maybe was, your Damned country.

Should have taken care of Z-boy yourself.
 
Germany, 1930 country fucked up by Versailles treaty young idealistic boy joins the elite WaffenSS in hopes of restoring national pride. 1945 “same” now man is a bona fide war criminal part of a legally criminal gang and free to be executed or tried or put into work camps until dead.

Thats why many people and countries have instituted or have a saying God, family, country in that particular order and if country conflicts with first or second the fuckit and if others dont think the same also fuck them and one has whole moral right to ignore such fight or go against it.
 
Well.

Mixed thoughts about conscription. I volunteered 4-6 months after Vietnam era deadline.

I'll just say conscription, to aid a foreign country is one thing to go all contietchus be about. Not mine.

But turning your back on your own country, well ---- fuck me.

I get not wanting to die for the likes of Z-boy but it's / maybe was, your Damned country.

Should have taken care of Z-boy yourself.
I think Putin screwed up by sending the first troops to kiev. It didn't line up with the objective to protect the eastern provinces.
I understand that a lot of people believe that they should have been left alone after the Minsk Agreement due to being a majority of people being Russian. Now after a couple years of watching poor tactics and failures by the military leadership who would really want to sign up for being a bullet catcher?
 

things could have gone much differently

Trump was labeled a traitor for refusing to accept the Russian hack narrative without evidence. Even his own DNI at the time, Dan Coats, as well as many Republicans, publicly pushed back against him. As it turns out, Trump was absolutely correct, and the newly released emails from Gabbard now confirm that his skepticism was justified.
 
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No way it ends. Z boy still has some grift left.
And some meat for the grinder.

I think Kiev was Putin's shock and awe PR attempt for quick surrender that failed badly.
I wonder if the general that came up with that idea meet a nice 4th floor window somewhere.
 
Would you still volunteer if the goverment, installed and supported by China, was killing thousands of your countryman for opposing a coup, banning your culture and language?
Your a bit late to volunteer.

Your time to do that was before you let "China" take over.

As for me I'd pick a side and defend it not sit on the fence and complain.
 
I think Putin screwed up by sending the first troops to kiev. It didn't line up with the objective to protect the eastern provinces.
I understand that a lot of people believe that they should have been left alone after the Minsk Agreement due to being a majority of people being Russian. Now after a couple years of watching poor tactics and failures by the military leadership who would really want to sign up for being a bullet catcher?
He should have never invaded, it was a blunder from the start. But they thought they could sack the capitol and end it quickly, which failed.
 
He should have never invaded, it was a blunder from the start. But they thought they could sack the capitol and end it quickly, which failed.
No one else was giving a shit that the ukes were shelling the fuck out of the people in those regions.
The USA has invited themselves to be protectors/ invaders for a whole lot less but Russia Russia Russia so it's bad.
 
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No one else was giving a shit that the ukes were shelling the fuck out of the people in those regions.
The USA has invited themselves to be protectors/ invaders for a whole lot less but Russia Russia Russia so it's bad.
Russia was Shelling across border into to Ukraine in 2014 too. People were aware, saying no one cared is an over simplification. They accepted it because they were trying to eliminate the resistance that had formed and being supported by Russia, who was also shelling. Hell, they shot down a 777 and killed 300 civilians.

This whole thing is a shit show.

Coups and wars have consequences. I personally just want to see it ended.

Maybe we can get fertilizer prices back down so the cost of food will drop
 
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Airliner was shot down by Ukies. Just as Russian force withdrew from outside Kiev. Repeating some bullshit stories as facts dont make em such.
I dis agree, the comms were intercepted(western spooks listening in), they(rebels on the ground)thought it was a transport aircraft. They( anyone who has a triple digit IQ) know who did it.

I am more than willing to look at any supportive evidence you have to back up that claim.


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Well thats maybe first smart thing out of her foul mouth as she damn well knows probability of that happening is zero.
Apparently elTrumpo is a dud, the flyer, the good ES breaker “he” shot for the moon but only managed a fart with brown line on his underwear. Too bad.
Yeah I think thats about right.
 
Russia was Shelling across border into to Ukraine in 2014 too. People were aware, saying no one cared is an over simplification. They accepted it because they were trying to eliminate the resistance that had formed and being supported by Russia, who was also shelling. Hell, they shot down a 777 and killed 300 civilians.

This whole thing is a shit show.

Coups and wars have consequences. I personally just want to see it ended.

Maybe we can get fertilizer prices back down so the cost of food will drop

The best thing/way to end it would be for Trump to tell the faggot gender bender to sit his ass at the table and negotiate or the weapons and money aren't getting sent. But Congress is doing an end run
 
The best thing/way to end it would be for Trump to tell the faggot gender bender to sit his ass at the table and negotiate or the weapons and money aren't getting sent. But Congress is doing an end run
I agree and add we need some real solutions to Russia doing the same, IE Pulling the arms and weapons back.
 
I’m familiar with JIT findings so some video/audio from SBU really does nothing for me nor for your credibility regarding statement who shot airliner. It has been proven and dissected to the bone that location, lone launcher and photo/video evidence was faked by Ukraine. Now so many years later and so many lies more its all the more clear that just like Markale market, Saddams gas, Syrian gas, Kuwaiti children and many more also the unfortunate people of MH17 were victims of basically their own government.
 
Woman who can shoot under stress:

Her mental discipline, calculation skills and physical abilities are amazing. Very uncommon in typical females, but she is of Russian origin.

When I still lived in the USSR, I met a girl at the party who was either a dancer in some music performance band or ballerina, do not remember. She was so physically fit and strong, it was a sort of shock to me. Her body felt like pure 100% muscle, and there was a sort of legend floating around that boys were not afraid to go with her anywhere, because she could kick the shit out of anyone and protect her boyfriend. She was pretty slim and may be 5'3-4" max in height, so it was an amazing discovery for me in my very early years that not all girls are "created equal".
 
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I’m familiar with JIT findings so some video/audio from SBU really does nothing for me nor for your credibility regarding statement who shot airliner. It has been proven and dissected to the bone that location, lone launcher and photo/video evidence was faked by Ukraine. Now so many years later and so many lies more its all the more clear that just like Markale market, Saddams gas, Syrian gas, Kuwaiti children and many more also the unfortunate people of MH17 were victims of basically their own government.
So I'll take that as you don't have any evidence.

jfalssie see I can type any thing. The monky fucked a honey bee.

Evidence... do you have anything to prove any of your claims. I know you got nothing.
 
I agree and add we need some real solutions to Russia doing the same, IE Pulling the arms and weapons back.
Wrong.

I dis agree, the comms were intercepted(western spooks listening in), they(rebels on the ground)thought it was a transport aircraft. They( anyone who has a triple digit IQ) know who did it.

I am more than willing to look at any supportive evidence you have to back up that claim.


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Western spooks? That's funny. The same ones that came up with the Russian collusion hoax, the pipeline being a Russian act, the Ukraine impeachment, the Ukraine coup, the Hunter laptop BS........
Hmmm 🤔,
 
Wrong.



Western spooks? That's funny. The same ones that came up with the Russian collusion hoax, the pipeline being a Russian act, the Ukraine impeachment, the Ukraine coup, the Hunter laptop BS........
Hmmm 🤔,
No, the ones who have been there feeding Ukraine intel and keeping the Russians at bay.

None of those events has shit to do with MH-17.

You got any actual evidence. Or just you fox fed talking points?
 
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No, the ones who have been there feeding Ukraine intel and keeping the Russians at bay.

None of those events has shit to do with MH-17.

You got any actual evidence. Or just you fox fed talking points?
Bwaaaahahaha. You sound vaccinated.
You can trust these but not those?

Unfucking believable. Every day there's another story of their lies but but but this one is true cuz they said "Cross my heart and hope to die."
 
Bwaaaahahaha. You sound vaccinated.
You can trust these but not those?

Unfucking believable. Every day there's another story of their lies but but but this one is true cuz they said "Cross my heart and hope to die."
so you have anything on MH-17 or you just going to bring up other shit that is not directly related to it. I challage you to prove it false, the intercepted comms you are failing at discrediting.

Those are not valid counterpoints, you have a bad case of apophenia. I fear you may be teetering on the early stages of schizophrenia.

btw, where's the best place to get some R-22?
 
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O yeah I forgot to retort. You mis judge the situation. RU gotta pull back too, if not there will be no peace.

I'd say your opinion, I e what you want to happen, is not inline with reality. Sorry to break it to ya.
Why would they? They won it. Ukraine is almost out of soldiers and shortly Russia can walk into Kiev and have a victory party in Z's house. With all the "spook advisors" and the West's weapons Ukraine is a failed state. Unless there's a significant number of Western troops put on the ground it's over.
 
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Why would they? They won it. Ukraine is almost out of soldiers and shortly Russia can walk into Kiev and have a victory party in Z's house. With all the "spook advisors" and the West's weapons Ukraine is a failed state. Unless there's a significant number of Western troops put on the ground it's over.
It's been over, however the money laundering by our Congress and MIC is still going on. Stop sending money and weapons and the war will be over pronto.
 
Why would they? They won it. Ukraine is almost out of soldiers and shortly Russia can walk into Kiev and have a victory party in Z's house. With all the "spook advisors" and the West's weapons Ukraine is a failed state. Unless there's a significant number of Western troops put on the ground it's over.
Did you see the B-2 and F-35 fly over Putin and Trump while standing in between 4 F-22?

That was not happenstance, it was a message.
 
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so you have anything on MH-17 or you just going to bring up other shit that is not directly related to it. I challage you to prove it false, the intercepted comms you are failing at discrediting.

Those are not valid counterpoints, you have a bad case of apophenia. I fear you may be teetering on the early stages of schizophrenia.

btw, where's the best place to get some R-22?
I went to a magic show and watched the magician saw a woman in half. He separated both halves and walked between them. Then he put them back together and she got out of the box. A few minutes later he made a woman disappear in a puff of smoke. She reappeared in the audience.
Several years ago I saw a magician turn a Kenyan into a Hawaiian. Then I watched them turn a well known celebrity into a Russian agent and then turned into a felon.
Did you know that Webster has removed the word gullible from the dictionary?
 
Did you see the B-2 and F-35 fly over Putin and Trump while standing in between 4 F-22?

That was not happenstance, it was a message.
That the USA is going to join the fight? Start WW3 for a POS Ukraine? I don't think that Putin was impressed.
Trump should have handed him that big red button that Hillary showed when she was secretary of state.
 
That the USA is going to join the fight? Start WW3 for a POS Ukraine? I don't think that Putin was impressed.
Trump should have handed him that big red button that Hillary showed when she was secretary of state.
we are pretty deep in it. I think the threat could be enough.

Not that I wanna see it. I think this whole thing is fucked but its one potential path.
 
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